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Date Posted: 21:55:07 07/01/03 Tue
Author: Law Abiding Tax Payer (and proud Neo-Con)
Subject: Keep wavin' that freak flag! This is the problem when people take Ayn Rand's "philosophy" too seriously. But I must ask ....
In reply to: billstoddard 's message, "There ARE Differences Between Car Repair Shops And The Federal Government!" on 16:33:01 07/01/03 Tue

....are these the pithy subjects discussed at meetings of the Libertarian Futurists Society? (insert laughs here) The purpose of pointing out Powers' lunatic assertion is that the government can't be thought of as a service oriented business designed to serve your individual wants and needs. It's to serve the broader needs of the nation's huge industial complex and provide for a strong military presence. As long as the government (by the guiding influence of Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, and Bill Kristol, along with Cheyney, Rove and Bush) promotes a strong military force to go over to the Middle East and kick as much towel headed ass as possible so we can control the oil, I'm happy with what that. Bullets cost bucks, sparky. So does national security. Your whining about taxes is way way down on the this government's priority scale. So sit back and enjoy the ride. No one that can do anything about it is paying attention to you.
If you don't like it, I'm sure some third world countries with relatively low taxes would accept you for citizenship. Perhaps a few years of gnawing on on boiled grapefruit rinds for dinner would temper your whining somewhat.

The concept of true "freedom" in America does not mean freedom to do what you what when you want. Some of you need to learn that the Constitution shouldn't be taken so literally. It is interpreted as certain groups see fit to interpret it. It's up to the group with the most power that gets to interpret it the way they want. So far, the neo-cons are in control and hopefully will be for years to come.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Are You For Real? -- billstoddard, 01:06:07 07/03/03 Thu

So far LATP (Neo-Con), you've completely ignored the issues I've validly put before the readers of this message board, specifically, WHAT LAW REQUIRES THE PAYMENT OF "INCOME TAXES", AND WHAT LAW HAS IRWIN SCHIFF BROKEN THAT ALLOWS THE GOVERNMENT TO TRASH THE CONSTITUTION AND SUBVERT HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS?

Instead, you're professing your love of big oppressive government that commits any illegal acts against US citizens it wants to in the name of "national security". Howzabout "NATIONAL FREEDOM"? Does "freedom" mean anything to you?

The same "strong military force" that we sent to Iraq can be used against YOU if the government decides that it either doesn't like what you say, or decides that it wants to extract more money from you!

You are a truly sorry character, LATP! You have absolutely no understanding of the principles that this country was founded on. The Colonists who founded this country went to war to be free from England because England was taxing them at only a SMALL FRACTION (I think 7% or so) of what Americans pay today!

I believe the reason that you're not bothered by the fact that American taxpayers currently have to work until the middle of JUNE every year to pay all of the "Income Taxes" supposedly "owed" to the government is because you yourself are probably on some sort of public assistance and do not contribute anything to society!

The third world countries that you claim I would be more happy residing in don't take THEIR Constitutions "so literally", as you put it, either. Oh, I forgot: these other countries don't HAVE Constitutions, or any sets of laws that protect their citizens from their oppressive governments. In all the communist countries, the laws are whatever their dictators SAY the laws are, at any given time. Our Constitution, along with the Bill Of Rights are what protect us from being enslaved by LIMITING the power government can exercise over us! That's why we became a world power in the first place: FREEDOM!

You call yourself a "neo-con", but in reality you are truly clueless as to what ANY form of conservatism really entails! You value "security" more than you do FREEDOM, so eventually you will lose BOTH!

You speak glowingly of "national security". HOW MUCH "NATIONAL SECURITY" IS THERE WHEN THE GOVERNMENT CAN ARBITRARILY DECIDE THAT SOMEONE IS NOT ALLOWED TO PUBLISH HIS WELL DOCUMENTED BELIEFS, AND THEY DON'T EVEN BOTHER TO GIVE VALID (OR ANY) REASONS WHY? HOW MUCH "NAIONAL SECURITY" IS THERE WHEN THE GOVERNMENT CAN CLAIM YOU OWE THEM 50% OF WHAT YOU EARN, NOT POINT TO A LAW TO BACK UP THEIR CLAIM, AND THEN SEND ARMED JACKBOOTED THUGS TO YOUR PROPERTY TO CONFISCATE WHAT YOU OWN, AND WITHOUT A COURT ORDER?

That someone like you has the same vote as I do is not only pathetic, it's scary!


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