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Subject: Ivy Preseason Poll


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 13:04:38 08/04/25 Mon


Harvard (9)
Dartmouth (4)
Yale (3)
Columbia
Princeton
Penn
Cornell
Brown

https://ivyleague.com/news/2025/8/4/harvard-voted-preseason-ivy-football-favorite.aspx

Dartmouth and Yale were only percentage points away from each other. But big drop between the top 3 and #4 Columbia.

Traditionally, Dartmouth has usually outplayed its predicted finish. Hopefully that happens here as well!

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Preseason Poll


Author:
Old Lion (jake called it)
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Date Posted: 14:49:33 08/04/25 Mon

Jake was just about perfect in his predictions. I would like to think that Columbia under Poppe will continue to surprise on the upside—excellent OL and TE; strong at QB, Townsend back and healthy at DE; really good coaching on both sides of the ball.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Ivy Preseason Poll


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Grin and Bear it
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Date Posted: 16:48:22 08/04/25 Mon

Another preseason poll and another last place predication for Brown. I think they will do better, but who cares what I think? This will be James Perry's sixth season as the skipper. So far, the results have been less than encouraging. This is not terribly surprising because Perry had very little head coaching experience. Yes, I know he was a great offensive coordinator, but the head job is so much more demanding. My guess is that he now stands on the edge of the precipice. Either he shows some progress, or he is shown the door. Perry may be a favorite son, but nobody likes to see their team in last place. Furthermore, Dr. Calhoun was hired to get results, and she has swung a very sharp axe since becoming the head of athletics. It will be interesting.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Ivy Preseason Poll


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M3
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Date Posted: 16:59:57 08/04/25 Mon

It's all about Jiimies and Joes

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[> [> [> [> Subject: For the most part, yes. But...


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 08:29:26 08/05/25 Tue


But Penn has been recruiting at least as well (if anything, better) than Dartmouth in the Priore era

For whatever reason, such has not been reflected in the real-world standings.

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Preseason Poll


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Fear the Quaker
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Date Posted: 08:18:19 08/05/25 Tue

Penn has let go the lacrosse and bball coaches after poor results, so I think the football coach will be on the hot seat.

I hope we are better than fifth. :)

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Preseason Poll


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RedWin
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Date Posted: 10:20:09 08/05/25 Tue

Pretty much what I expected for Cornell with the graduation of QB Jameson Wang, 2025 is probably a rebuilding year. Again I think if Cornell ever wants to dig out of the Ivy cellar we need to improve the running game.

Another suggestion is to play the Cornell vs. Columbia game in NYC every year. It's a wasted game in Ithaca with the weather and half the students have bolted for Thanksgiving break that weekend.

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[> [> Subject: Cornell appears to be recruiting well


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 14:17:55 08/05/25 Tue


I still think Cornell is a year (perhaps two) away.

But Big Red recruiting appears much improved from my standpoint.

As for the C-C game, while crowds might be better in NYC, it's not my impression that Wien Stadium is packed when the Big Red is the Lions' opponent...

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Cornell appears to be recruiting well


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SpuytenDuyvil76 (verily)
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Date Posted: 16:58:20 08/05/25 Tue

It's been my impression the crowd is respectable, with Cornell and their NYC area alumni base holding up the bargain well. They also tend to bring the band, which adds to atmosphere.

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Preseason Poll


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observer
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Date Posted: 11:53:33 08/05/25 Tue

Have they announced the tiebreaker for FCS playoffs, assuming the potential for another 3 way tie?

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Preseason Poll


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Bengal
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Date Posted: 15:08:30 08/05/25 Tue

Not that I am about to undertake this, or suggest anyone else do so, but I wonder how many times the pre-season poll has actually picked the eventual League winner.

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[> [> Subject: Sounds like a job for PQ, if you're asking me, B.


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Valmas (Stoic)
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Date Posted: 17:22:09 08/05/25 Tue


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[> [> Subject: Re: Ivy Preseason Poll


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Bengal
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Date Posted: 23:50:31 08/05/25 Tue

You have tve advantage of me. PQ?

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[> [> Subject: With all the shared championships in recent years...


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 05:41:51 08/06/25 Wed


It would be pretty hard for the media to miss out on picking a champion.

:)

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: With all the shared championships in recent years...


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Bengal
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Date Posted: 09:17:59 08/06/25 Wed

They have done a pretty good job of mis predicting. They got 4 of the last 5 P titles wrong, as just 4 examples among others. In fairness, these preseason polls are limited exercises. There writers do not even have the fall rosters yet in an era of roster uncertainty.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: With all the shared championships in recent years...


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 17:07:41 08/08/25 Fri

I think we all agree that it would greatly benefit our conference if our FCS playoff representative regularly made a deep run into December.

That's why I am recommending the following:

On the many occasions when the Ivies have a two- or three-way titleist, we send to the FCS playoffs an *ALL-STAR* team composed of the best players from the two or three co-champions.

Can you imagine how good we would be with a four-way co-championship (a real possibility in two of the last three seasons)? This is GG's dream scenario!

Most of America cannot name *ANY* Ivy League university. They'll never know the difference if our FCS representative is composed of Yale and Princeton players. The average American thinks, "Yale? Princeton? What's the difference?"

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[> [> [> [> Subject: I presume this is tongue in cheek


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sparman
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Date Posted: 17:30:27 08/08/25 Fri

All star teams usually underperform relative to a single institution's team that has a season of playing together. Who would coach? What offensive and defensive systems would be employed? Most players would find it challenging to master the system in the couple of weeks before playoffs start.

I'm rooting for the classic ivy fairness principle to apply. Maybe have one team play the first half and another the second half.

BTW, what is the difference between Princeton and Yale?

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: With all the shared championships in recent years...


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observer
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Date Posted: 11:03:21 08/09/25 Sat

Most Americans *CAN* name an Ivy university. They just don't have positive feelings towards them.

Now if you said most Americans don't *know anyone who attended* an Ivy school, that would probably be correct.

That two rising Ivy seniors have chosen to transfer to the University of Florida to play sports before getting their undergraduate degrees should speak clear volumes about what the court of public opinion is about our 8 schools right now.

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