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Date Posted: 06:07:00 12/11/05 Sun
Author: d - 22 Sep 2005
Subject: Re: Prana
In reply to: H - 21 Sep 2005 's message, "Re: Prana" on 05:14:55 12/11/05 Sun

Yes, I have read about that as well.

Here is what Osho said ?
Q: OSHO, YOU RARELY SPEAK ON ANY HARDSHIPS YOU MAY EXPERIENCE FOR US, AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF US TEND TO THINK YOU ARE BEYOND PAIN OR DISCOMFORT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO WITNESS EVERYTHING. SOME HAVE EXPRESSED THE IDEA THAT YOUR ILLNESSES ARE JUST DEVICES FOR US. COULD YOU PLEASE COMMENT?"

A: I have not struggled at all. I have not suffered in finding the truth. Yes, I have suffered much in transferring it to you.

Truth has been without any struggle.

There was nothing to struggle with -- just pure emptiness. But to transfer that emptiness to you has been a great struggle. For thirty-five years I have been continuously struggling in this way and that way to approach you -- somehow to wake you up.

Yes, in that I have suffered much, and I am going to suffer much unless you decide not to hide but to expose yourself, not to remain a seed but start growing.

I have suffered because I had to say things which go against traditions, religions, nations. I have made so many enemies in the world that you can call me a great success, a great success in making enemies although I had wanted to be a friend. But this whole business of transferring truth creates enemies easily and friends very rarely.

But I have enjoyed this struggle and will continue to enjoy, whatever pain, whatever agony it brings -- perhaps a man like me is destined to be crucified. And that's what the politicians of the whole world and the religious heads of the whole world are trying, but they don't want my blood on their hands. They are trying in every possible way to silence me.

The Attorney General of America, after harassing and torturing and poisoning me said in a press conference, "All that we want is that Osho should not be seen anywhere, not heard by anyone; no news media should report him."
That is equivalent to a modern and sophisticated crucifixion. But they have not been able to be successful and they are not going to be successful because nobody has ever loved you so much as I love you. Jesus loved his "father" -- you were just sinners to him. Gautam Buddha was afraid even to use the word `love', because it reminds him of imprisonments, of chains which are created in the name of love.

I am the first in many senses. I love you and I love you so much that I am certain no government, no country, no army, even if they join together... Now twenty-four countries have joined together in not allowing me to enter their lands -- but I have lovers in their lands.

Even my own country has created every kind of hindrance, that I should not be heard by the masses. They don't allow me to move from my home, and they are trying to prevent people from all over the world coming here. But truth is not weak and love is far stronger than all the nuclear weapons.

It may create pain and physical trouble for me, but nobody can put locks on my mouth. They can put chains on my hands -- they did; they can put chains on my feet -- they did. I am living in a situation which can almost be called house arrest -- but I trust in love, that it is going to be victorious.
Even if they kill me my voice will be heard around the earth for as long as there is a single living human being.

From "Living Zen"
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Osho was not the ONLY controversial during that time. His contemporary was a gentleman named Ambalal Patel aka Dada Bhagwan who had a profound awakening in 1958. Unlike Rajneesh, Dada was not even a high school graduate and was not well versed in Hindi or English. He had also come across Jain scriptures and he took upon a crusade to unify three sects - the Vaishnav, Shiavas, and Jainas. To the dismay of Jain community, he combined the Namo Bhagavate vasudevaya, Namah shivaya and Jain Navkar mantra. He made Mahavir?s teachings more accessible to masses. That was and still is not well received by the traditional jains and their scholars. He even declared his teachings as Akram Marga ? Non-gradual path. I am surprised to see the profound depth in Dada?s discourses as it encompassed the depths of Zen, Mahavir, Gurdjieff, Dogchen, etc ? but I don?t think he ever knew Zen or Gurdjieff or other traditions. But, he still kept the traditional flavor of bhakti to tirthankars, and mantras etc.

Our family friend ( a die-hard osho fan - secretly, I should say) told an interesting story ? that in the early 60?s, during the time Rajneesh would give the lectures in Hindi in Amdavad or Baroda with an assembly of about 20,000 people. People would secure a seat several hours before his arrival. At the time, Dada would be also giving satsangs in some private homes in Gujarati in the same city until early hours in the morning. People would come from Rajneesh?s lecture and then go to Dada?s satsang. Dada was about 20 years older than Rajneesh. They both passed away 2 years apart. After Rajneesh passed away, several of his sanyasis specifically gujarati sanyasis joined dada?s group.

The another time, in the early 60?s, one of his room-mate went to see Rajneesh and when he came back to dorm, declared that after being with Rajneesh for five minutes,he decided to be sanyasin. When he asked ? why did you decide so quickly ? The friend said, even five minutes is a too long time to decide to be his sanyasin.

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