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Subject: you too


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nucking futz
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Date Posted: 09/ 3/06 12:41pm
In reply to: The LAW 's message, "You still don't get it!!" on 09/ 1/06 4:00pm
 first of all i am not the same person (as a matter of fact i am pretty sure there are atleast three people writing on this thread) and second of all your right. one of the fishermen with a clam harvesting violation was a fisherman not doing anything wrong and cenci stopped and boarded his boat four times before he finally found something and what he found is that "his corks werent painted orange enough"! the fisherman reported cenci for harassment. the fisherman then had his vessel boarded every time he took it out. the fisherman then was stopped everytime he dug clams. the last time in frustration he just gave his clams to the agent and told him he could have them. three months later he received a ticket in the mail for interferring with an officer performing his duty wasting shellfish illegally disposing of shellfish.

if a law person wants to get you they can find a way because so much of it is in interpretation and thats the point it seems you are determined to ignore in all of the posts that have been made. it is an interpretation as to whether or not the fisherman is "immediately" returning the fish to the river in a manner which does not endanger the fish and gives it the best chance of survival. just like the cop who will give the white guy a slap on the wrist for having his license plate light out and will give a ticket to the hispanic for the same "violation" because it is in his discretion as to whether or not something is a clear violation or something that just warrants a warning.

a fishing and wildlife agent can say it appeared that the person dug and then illegally released clams that were small so that they could get larger ones as part of their clam limit. what you dont get is that there is no way to combat that except to say, "nuh-uh". what you dont get is that people do have concerns about corruption about abuse of powers and about agencies trying to inflate their budgets by ilegally ticketing and harassing honest business man.

you do seem awfuly compliant and pretty persistent for someone who doesnt have anything to do with this matter. as someone who doesnt eat fish or know anyone in the enforcement agency and supposedly knows a gillnetter well enough to sit in on a catch (what was he fishing for? when was it? what season? which could very well explain why there were merely seven fish in the bottom of the boat) you seem pretty vested to complete this argument.

your argument that the person should follow the law until they can get it changed is not valid. all lawmakers would say is that it seems to be working so far. they have to show that it is not working in order for it to change. also, i can not believe that any citizen would totally ignore the fact that agents can board vessels without a warrant. thats crazy! that law needs to be changed. they need to show that there is reason to believe a certain boat is violating the law just like anywhere else. it boggles my mind that agents can do such a thing and it is further proof how absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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