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Date Posted: Thu, Apr 03 2008, 18:23:09
Author: fan
Subject: sem senior mixed
well done SEM for winning the senior mixed figure competition
your figure was amazing and you deserved to win!
standing ovation at the end of your redance... shows that you were the winners in everyones eyes!
also congratulations to sem senior ladies figure on winning!
brilliant result.. and brilliant figure.
althought i disagree with the academy placing 2nd after the obvious mistake made by one girl right at the beginning of the dance.
but i suppose not everything is fair in the dancing world... althought i am so glad sem won both senior figures
i have never seen such amazing exciting figures.. congratulations and come back next year ready to take the title again!
xx
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That mistake must explain why SEM wouldn't clap them then -- NOW I understand, Thu, Apr 03 2008, 18:58:24 [1]
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... -- maybe, Thu, Apr 03 2008, 22:29:58 [1]
yes i agree with the first comment about the academy getting 2nd.
any other team made a mistake and they wouldnt have a chance of getting in the top 5!! so why should it be different for them?
and i do not blame sem for not clapping them.
i noticed some tension throughout the week and i also noticed that when sem and the academy were on stage for the presentation of the senior ladies figure some of the girls of the academy were looking at the sem girls and laughing and whispering which i thought was extremely rude seeing as they just won the competition!
well done sem!! you definately deserved to win
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no one at the Academy has disagreed with SEM being the winners as far as I can see. The TC from the Academy happily congratulated them, and the dancers clapped them as the results were called, as anyone sat near to them in the audience will testify. However, it appears that SEM were not gracious winners, booing the Academy result -- that's what upsets people, Thu, Apr 03 2008, 22:47:53 [1]
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SEM and ACADEMY -- dancer, Thu, Apr 03 2008, 23:57:23 [1]
The Academy deserve all the negativity that they get. SEM are amazing in every way and deserve all they get!
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i dont know what the previous comment is about as none of the sem dancers booed the results of th academy.. as far as i can understand everyone if just wondering how the academy could of placed second after making such an obvious misake when many other teams didnt but placed lower! how is that fair?? -- not fair!!, Thu, Apr 03 2008, 23:42:15 [1]
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You must have missed some of the recent posts. It has already been established that some (not all) of the SEM crowd in the audience were indeed Booing the Academy results quite loudly. This didn't come from Academy people as they were sitting on opposite sides of the arena, but rather from people sitting close to SEM. Everyone connected with SEM seems to look at ID through rose tainted glasses. Whatever you think anyone did to SEM it doesn't excuse such poor behaviour, particularly as you only know part of the story. Perhaps SEM were also partly in the wrong, have you even considered that might be the case? -- at least Academy behaved, Fri, Apr 04 2008, 1:18:17 [1]
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right no one knows whta has gone on between sem and the academy xcept a few people that were involved... so i think that everyone should stop stirring trouble..E and B deserve the trouble they get because of the stuff they did to sem.. ive heard many complaints from sem dancers that E&B have been rude and horrid to people!! well done sem for the worlds! i wasnt there to see the figures but was pleased with results! -- *, Fri, Apr 04 2008, 0:13:02 [1]
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don't know anyone involved in all this hoohaa, but it looks like 'the devil looks after his own' for sure -- shameful behaviour on a public world platform, Fri, Apr 04 2008, 12:55:31 [1]
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excuse me but no one booed the academy results from sem and sem dint clap for them on stage but that was because of a certain incident that happened with one of the academy girls purposely doing something to an sem dancer as if to say that they were better than them! Now however sem reacted to this incident it doesnt matter because its the fault of the academy dancer that all this took place... and ed and byron and the academy throughout the week of thr worlds were seen either starin at sem people or talkin about them! and i think that it is that kind of behaviour that is unexceptable at a world competition.! its pathetic -- SEM not in the wrong here, Fri, Apr 04 2008, 17:49:17 [1]
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I just hope that more SEM people keep posting on this board because all you are doing is making yourselves look and sound WORSE and WORSE and WORSE! hahaha, keep it up! -- x, Sat, Apr 05 2008, 1:25:53 [1]
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To the SEM posters on this board. Let your dancing speak for itself. Your teams were breathtaking, the dancing was beautiful, and you beat your rivals fair and square. Let that be enough. As I'm sure your teachers tell you, behave graciously on stage whether you win or lose, and be gracious on this public forum. Everybody knows your rivals behaved badly, but now everyone knows that YOU behaved badly in return. If they beat you next year you'll be sorry. Come back next year and dance beautifully and behave beautifully too. -- Let the dancing speak for itself., Sat, Apr 05 2008, 15:26:24 [1]
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i just have one thing to say. everybody knows that sem wouldnt talk or shake hands or congratulate the acdemy off stage so why should they act fake and do it on stage just because people are watching? they have there own reasons for acting the way they did but at least they didnt act fake like the academy.. the academy behaved terribly to sem off stage but then as soon as people were watchingt them during the results and on stage they were clapping and congratulating sem. why act fake?? -- everybody hates fakers, Sat, Apr 05 2008, 16:35:26 [1]
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because that's what etiquette dictates. Behave civilly towards each other in a public forum in order to set a good example, and avoid all of this debate afterwards. -- that's all we ask, Sat, Apr 05 2008, 17:48:13 [1]
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this is pathetic... someone left sem a comment congratulating them on there teams and then its all turned onto thre academy?! im sorry but if anyone knew exactly what ed and byron did to sem then none of you would be supporting them!!! so seeing as none of you do know i suggest you keep your thoughts to yourself because you dont have a clue! -- no one knows the truth!, Sun, Apr 06 2008, 16:51:17 [1]
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Come on then what did they do?? -- meme, Sun, Apr 06 2008, 17:40:12 [1]
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No you are wrong. Someone left a comment congratulating SEM on their teams AND they then said the Academy shouldn't have been 2nd. It was the OP that made this about the Academy. If they had just congratulated SEM nothing else would have been said. -- just defending their school, Sun, Apr 06 2008, 20:29:56 [1]
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only the TCRG uinvolved actually know what happened between them, and no doubt there was good and bad on both sides. you may think you know, but remember you only know what you've been told, and the SEM TCRG have shown that they can be economical with the truth. Before you say you witnessed it, remember you still have no context. eg I know SEM figure behaved badly onstage, because I saw it. I assume there was a reason, and maybe the other team even started it. However, I only saw one team behave badly, and anything else I've heard as to why, may or may not be the truth. The only truth I know is that SEM were out of line onstage. -- all about perspective, Sun, Apr 06 2008, 21:06:59 [1]
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Figures -- -, Sun, Apr 06 2008, 19:45:09 [1]
I believe that both the "Academy" and "SEM" did great in the ladys figure, but it was not apropriate how the "SEM" dancers behaived. There is quite a rivalry between the two dance schools but teasing and gloating wont settle anything. "SEM" should be greatfull that they won and should of apreciated the competetion and booing the result of the "Academy" is not doing so. So i suggest that the dancers that where involved in this start acting ther age.
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Figures -- Mr...., Sun, Apr 06 2008, 19:48:38 [1]
I believe that both the "Academy" and "SEM" did great in the ladys figure, but it was not apropriate how the "SEM" dancers behaived. There is quite a rivalry between the two dance schools but teasing and gloating wont settle anything. "SEM" should be greatfull that they won and should of apreciated the competetion and booing the result of the "Academy" is not doing so. So i suggest that the dancers that where involved in this start acting ther age.
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Acting their age -- ex dancer (angry), Mon, Apr 07 2008, 17:12:36 [1]
trust me all those dancers from SEM were acting their age by completely ignoring the Acadmey dancers - anyone of a senior age would not congratulate them and be 'fake' so i believe SEM were in the right! well done SEM fro the figures!
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sem and the academy's girls -- isnt it for the girls not for the teachers..?, Sun, Apr 06 2008, 19:54:02 [1]
all the girls from both schools worked extremly hard to get where they got (as well as all the other teams did)so whatever happens with the teachers should be kept between the teachers and its the girls that should be the ones that are getting the attention not the teachers.As the girls all worked so so hard all year but all everyone seems to talk about is the 'issues' between the schools when its not even between the schools its just the teachers!!!! i think people should be applauding the teams not tearing them down!!!
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reply -- dancer, Mon, Apr 07 2008, 17:15:00 [1]
it is between the schools because E and B done some nasty things to lots of dancers from SEM and their confidence!
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MOD...Are all these people using this forum cause they know their posts are not deleted when they put bitchy comments to put others good achievements down! The worlds are over and the results that each and every dancer and team got deserved it! Well done to everyone! Now MOD i think these nasty comments need to be deleted as things seem to be getting out of hand and isnt right for the dancers that worked so hard! -- Dancer, Mon, Apr 07 2008, 22:23:01 [1]
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No one on here has questioned either 1st placed results or the qualities of the dancing involved. While I accept that very few know the full story of all that took place at the worlds, the reality is that one school appears to have allowed itself a very public display of disapproval, and it is because of that any discussion has taken place. As such discussions which do not deteriorate into slagging matches or hearsay statements are allowed. The point raised is one of public etiquette and NOT of dancing, previous history or personalities, so any posts that deviate from that point shall be deleted and ip numbers may be stored for future reference. It should be noted that at present some of the most virulent attacks appear to have come from supporters of one specific side. My appologies to some recent posters, but in fairness we need to keep to point so therefore I will have to delete some posts. -- MOD, Tue, Apr 08 2008, 1:35:27 [1]
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This is very sad. My dd competed against a younger SEM team. The teams scores were VERY close. My dd said that the SEM girls were extremely nice, & after spending so many hours sort of 'stuck' together, they were cheering each other on, rivalries put to rest. I hope they can keep it about the dance as they get older -- with or without the cameras on, Mon, Apr 07 2008, 23:57:54 [1]
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many teams do get along very well and make close friends... for example take doherty, carey and sem... they are always competing and sometimes it is very close between marks but they are constantly cheering each other.. so doesnt this make you think that the academy must have done something serious to make sem not clap.! and i must say that there was no one from sem booing the academy results because i was sat quite close to the area where sem were sat. there was a bit of talk as to how they got 2nd because of the mistake made but there was definately no booing!! and to be honest if sem dont want to clap the academy then they dont have to and it shouldnt cause such a fuss between everyone else because it doesnt effect anyone else! -- american parent, Tue, Apr 08 2008, 21:43:29 [1]
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Public behaviour does affect others, both in terms of example and soliciting reactions. It is actually a case of good manners to at the very least politely acknowledge an opponent, no-one would expect whoops of delight or flag waving, but a polite two or three claps of the hands which takes a couple of seconds would have shown them in a more positive light. -- a lesson for us all to learn from, Tue, Apr 08 2008, 22:35:43 [1]
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Much is being made of "the mistake" made. Obviously this was taken into account by the SEVEN individual adjudicators in their marking. As for every other team in the competition there wasn't one that was totally without fault, and all their errors were also taken into account, so why is everyone so keen to pick up on one mistake by The Academy. I was sat directly behind two AD's so could clearly see what they saw, and know what errors were made. On the day they collectively felt SEM were slightly better than The Academy and gave that result. as others have said, that does not make poor behaviour acceptable -- show respect to others, Tue, Apr 08 2008, 23:13:37 [1]
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slighty better? as far as im aware sem didnt make such a big mistake..!!! and there were teams in that competition that didnt make any mistakes.. yes there dancing might not have been so good but for gods sake this was a worlds championship comepetition and i think it is bad that a team making a mistake can still place second!!!! -- annoyed, Tue, Apr 08 2008, 23:19:48 [1]
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Yes slightly better. The marks were very close, so I assume the SEVEN qualified unbiased ADCRG thought they were slightly better overall, after allowing for what you feel to be a big mistake by The Academy team. Can't have been as bad as you think otherwise they wouldn't be second, would they? -- just factually correct, Wed, Apr 09 2008, 1:23:44 [1]
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Why oh why do these same threads keep going. I am sure throughout the competition there are many results that folk do or do not agree with. As a previous poster has already said two things here are certain.There was a public display of unsportsmanship. All the dancers in this competition worked extremely hard. Now I appeal to the better nature of some of the posters. How do you think that you are making this girl feel by singling out her mistake. This may be a senior competition but we all know that many of the dancers are still children. For heaven sake let it rest now or better still MOD remove the whole thread. She was not the only girl in this competition to make a mistake on a world stage and would be devestated enough without being publicly blamed for her mistake. Correct me if I am wrong but is figure dancing not marked between: The story, the fit of the dance to the story and interpretation, the music and also the dance performance. -- its old news now!, Wed, Apr 09 2008, 1:11:30 [1]
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Oh, whatever!! My dd danced for sem in teams (many many teams) and one girl fell to her knees during figure and we still won!! -- weren't so noisy then were you??, Wed, Apr 09 2008, 10:14:13 [1]
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this is pathetic! like someone said before, someone left a comment congratualting sem on their figures and they expressed their opinion about the academy placing second and now all of a sudden everyone has to start a big fuss about it! this is doing nothing for the girls confidence! for gods sake there are grown adults on here leaving nasty comments about the way the teams behanved! yes there was poor behaviour from both sides but its all over now and no one can change it so can people please stop leaving comments about this now, lets just end it here before it goes any further!! -- end of!, Wed, Apr 09 2008, 13:49:35 [1]
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You cannot make the statement "there was poor behaviour from both sides " as everyone only witnessed it from one side. that is why people have commented. We all accept that there might be bad blood between the two schools, but only one made a public show of it. nd the OP was actually having a pop at the Academy, wrapped up in a congratulation message. -- that's the problem, Wed, Apr 09 2008, 18:10:00 [1]
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well said -- x, Thu, Apr 10 2008, 0:29:21 [1]
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