your argument about MJ and Dirty Den are somewhat flawed. To make a true comparison, you would have to ask whether we would support an organisation - heavily involved with children - which was headed up by MJ. The answer is no, we wouldn't. Irish Dancing is 80% about children - you can't have a paedophile running an organisation - and you shouldn't support the organisation until they replace their president. Michael Jackson would not be allowed to give workshops on how to take care of children - such an idea would be laughed at. We all know how protective you are of your daughter Irishdaz, you say you would let her dance for a WIDA school because you'd be able to keep an eye on her - what about the other pair of eyes that might be on her?? Thoughts can be disturbing too!! -- For the love of the dance

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Date Posted: Fri, Sep 21 2007, 22:01:02
Author: me
Subject: your argument about MJ and Dirty Den are somewhat flawed. To make a true comparison, you would have to ask whether we would support an organisation - heavily involved with children - which was headed up by MJ. The answer is no, we wouldn't. Irish Dancing is 80% about children - you can't have a paedophile running an organisation - and you shouldn't support the organisation until they replace their president. Michael Jackson would not be allowed to give workshops on how to take care of children - such an idea would be laughed at. We all know how protective you are of your daughter Irishdaz, you say you would let her dance for a WIDA school because you'd be able to keep an eye on her - what about the other pair of eyes that might be on her?? Thoughts can be disturbing too!!
In reply to: Irishdaz 's message, "Let me make it clear - I do not support any paedophile. However, I am trying to separate my own strong feelings about an individual from the group he formed. I 100% agree he should be more open about being president, and on the original website he was. I have no idea why he doesn't do so still. If TCRG had not affiliated to WIDA it would not now exist. As it does I support them as teachers. I cannot do that without accepting the federation, even if I do not like the person at the top. Maybe one day he will be driven out and WIDA will continue without him as its head. It won't get big enough for that without being allowed to advertise, so I believe for the long term good of ID we have to accept matters not being quite as we'd like in the short term. I am not going to take part in this any further as I sense a tone that may lead to further mis-interpretation of my motives. Ideally convicted paedophiles should remain in prison for a long time but as they don't I have to accept that" on Thu, Sep 20 2007, 9:39:59

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[> I also find it amazing that you've gone on for months about the injustice your daughter suffered (a 6 month ban) - you felt the world should know about one man and his crime, and how awful the WHOLE ORGANISATION was for supporting that man. And yet,, here you are, supporting an organisation run by a man who has made a child suffer to a point that I hope your daughter will never experience. And yet, rather than demand the organisation do something about it (as you have done so forcefully about your own daughter's situation) - you instead proclaim that the man should be separated from the organisation and that there is no harm in promoting his organisation?? This is crazy. By supporting the organisation you are supporting the man. You are extending his access to children. It's a bit like saying 'I completely disagree with how McDonalds is run' and then eating in their restaurant, and advertising their restaurant on your website. Your thoughts on justice seem somewhat inconsistent. -- me again, Fri, Sep 21 2007, 22:23:13 [1]

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[> [> My dear friend is a nurse in a prison. In the prison system, pedophiles are the lowest of the low-even murderers treat them with utter contempt. And they're not snowed by their protests of innocence. They loathe them and wouldn't give any of them the time of day nor the benefit of the doubt. Why would YOU? -- ., Sat, Sep 22 2007, 3:45:37 [1]

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