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Date Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2007, 10:33:44
Author: Any thoughts people?
Subject: Been having a chat with my friend who was part of the English National Ballet. She was horrified to learn how in ID children are performing moves their bodies are not ready for. I wonder what the consequences will be in years to come?


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[> It is no different than the competetive Ballet world, children there are also pushed way beyond what their under developed muscles and tendons should really do. I am also an ex professional ballet dancer, the one thing I will say in the favour of ID is there is no forced sustained turnout that does so much harm to young ballet dancers. -- swings in roundabouts, Tue, Sep 25 2007, 16:38:18 [1]

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[> [> Forgot to add that I have taught for almost twenty years too -- above poster, Tue, Sep 25 2007, 16:39:28 [1]

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[> [> This comments interests me. Turnout is huge in ID. My daughter dances both ID and ballet. MORE -- Anyone else have thoughts on this?, Thu, Oct 04 2007, 18:26:20 [1]

It is her TC and the judges who are obsessed with turnout, not her ballet teacher. Her ballet teacher is slowly working with her to better her turnout. Her TC wants her turnout to be perfect. If her foot goes straight or less than overly turned out 7-10 times during an entire dance, then that is reason for the judges to tank her and the TC to tell her that her turnout is terrible. If you think of how many times a dancer's feet touch the floor during a dance (hundreds?), then a few landings or takeoffs with a straight foot isn't really that awful. But in ID, it is.

My only point here, is that turnout is paramount in ID, just like ballet.

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[> [> [> I am the poster above, I have taught ID and Ballet and the emphasis is different . If a Ballet dancer did hop two three's, the underneath leg would be turned out to the side. There are no adage movements in ID where a strong, sustained turnout is required. If your DD is at a competetive Ballet school, which was what I was refering to in my post, her turnout would be being forced more than in an ID class. Because as in ID they want the finished artical from their dancers at a very young age. This is what I feel does more damage to young joints than anything else. Hence my comments above. Your DD must go to a Ballet school that does not enter that many, if any festivals or she would find the lesson structure to be the same as her ID class. -- I was trying to compare like with like, Mon, Oct 08 2007, 0:04:32 [1]

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[> OP here - thank you so much for that. As a new TCRG I have set up my school and have been researching on how best to teach the little ones to their best ability, without making them do something now that will damage their legs later on. After my chat with my friend, I thought that we must be really archaic in ID. She has very helpfully shown me some fantastic warm ups for them and while I have danced for over 27 years, warm ups etc were not done in my day! -- Reassuring, Tue, Sep 25 2007, 20:37:33 [1]

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[> [> You should read Ann D's blog - very good info. Just what you're looking for. -- inside, Thu, Sep 27 2007, 2:52:49 [1]

http://taoknitter.blogspot.com/2007/07/kinesiology-posts.html

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[> Thank you for info on Anns blog. Fantastic - I agree completely with it all. I am a new TC and I will certainly take my responsibility towards my students seriously. They deserve the best and as a mother I intend to make sure my pupils receive the best I can give them, just as I would my own child. -- Thank you Ann - wholeheartedly, Fri, Oct 05 2007, 11:12:40 [1]

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