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Date Posted: 11:58:41 09/16/07 Sun
Author: iteo
Subject: Re: Zeitgeistmovie
In reply to: Johnny Reb 's message, "Re: Zeitgeistmovie" on 19:20:49 09/15/07 Sat

>still very controversial
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>1&showdate=9/12/07&messageid=436242&mpage=1
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>btw i am NOT the one using the nickname "god" on this
>blog :-)

I think something like zeitgeist will always be controversial. There will be people who won't want to believe it and there will some that simply couldn't handle the truth.

I'll admit that if I didn't have my epiphany, and didn't know that we are living out the 'end times', I don't know if I could handle this info. I'd probably look away and choose not to believe it because the truth is just too horrible to face otherwise.

I'd prefer to believe anyone who claimed that this info was false. But in regards to what the first poster writes, he seems to focus only on Horus and conveniently ignores the other sun gods.

From my research however, Mithras was indeed a Sun-god that was worshipped in Persia hundreds of years before Jeus, and just like Jesus, was born on Dec. 25 and also of a virgin.

Also, consider this:

Jesus was/is known as the Son (Sun) surrounded by his 12 apostles. Our own Sun is surrounded by the 12 signs of the Zodiac. These 12 signs also represented the 12 gods of the Greek pantheon.

Just as important, during his time, Jesus was a Jew and as such, worshipped on the Sabbath, a Saturday.

When the Romans took over Christianity, they changed the day of worship from Saturday to SUN-day, in honor of their Sun-god.

The Romans also celebrated a pagan fertility festival dedicated to the God Icthar (pronounced "Easter") where they slit the throats of rabbits and sprinkled the blood on their fields, this became "Easter" of course and into which the Jesus myth was incorporated.

In addition, it was the Romans that tossed the original worshippers of Jesus to the lions, then, after Christianity grew too big, they decided to adopt the Christian religion as their own — BUT, not before the set up the First Council of Nicaea and decided which books would be recognized as "official" and go into the Bible and which would not (many of the gnostic texts that were rejected were actually older than the texts chosen for the NT). It was the Romans who wrote the Bible, this is an established fact.

In any event, it's clear to me that Jesus' message was tampered with by the pagan, Sun-worshipping Romans.

That all said, since I now realize that the Sun is indeed our father and the Earth our mother, so the pagan aspects are not necessarily a bad thing.

That said, the Christianity that exists today (the Christianity that was invented by Rome) is a fear-based religion. A religion that says if you don't worship Jesus, you will suffer eternal damnation.

I am now of the opinion that it is precisely FEAR that keeps us in line and under the control of the 'powers that be' — and it is something that they use quite masterfully, with events such as 9-11.

So ultimately, I believe that the person who made Zeitgeist has made some errors in his film, and doesn't realize that these are indeed the "End Times"; but at the same time, his documentary has a lot to ponder. I see him as nothing more than a regular human being, who has come to some startling conclusions — even if his facts are a little off here and threre, that reason alone should not be one to dismiss everything he has to say. To do that smacks of ignorant fanaticism, whereby one will only "believe" someone who is 100% right, and if that person is not, then they must then be 100% wrong. In other words, a person who lives in a simplistic world of black & white, 100% right or 100% wrong — a world with no shades of gray.

To me, this type of thinking is, first and foremost, a product of fear.

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