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• I was happy that Casey & Pamela wanted to include Lawrence in their move, as part of their family. I still wasn't sure if the poor lad could completely accept them or their love yet though, considering his life, but I hoped so. Casey and Pamela would make wonderful parents to a teenager. (NT) -- Mahri, 13:35:14 08/10/09 Mon

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• I sure hoped that Casey could play a minor role versus being a full-fledged member. I don't know though, he himself says it feels like it's something genetic yea? I'm a little confused - can someone explain or remind me cuz we probably talked about this before....why should the party and army be publicly separate? (NT) -- Mahri, 13:38:19 08/10/09 Mon
  • Because Sinn Fein knew they would never be accepted as a legitimate political entity as long as they were viewed as the political wing of the IRA. (NT) -- celtgirl, 13:51:29 08/10/09 Mon
    • Ahh ok - because Casey was the one to say it (to Robin as part of what the IRA needed to do), I was confused. (NT) -- Mahri, 14:00:31 08/10/09 Mon
    • Woo boy, I remember when Clinton met with Sinn Fein. What a ruckus he created back then! (NT) -- E, 16:04:02 08/10/09 Mon
      • I believe he was the first President to allow Gerry Adams into the US. Both Adams and Tony Blair credited Clinton with the survival of the peace accord, he wouldn't let either side walk away until they came to an agreement and this went on over years of back and forth negotiation and stalemating. (NT) -- celtgirl, 16:17:06 08/10/09 Mon
        • I was just reading something about this - sure pissed off the British government when he granted THAT Visa didn't it? (NT) -- Mahri, 16:57:33 08/10/09 Mon
          • Oops, I'm sorry, Mahri, we must have posted at the same time. (NT) -- Elaine, 17:01:47 08/10/09 Mon
        • Yes, first prez to officially recognize Gerry Adams, and grant him a visa to enter the US. A very big deal, and one that was met with great criticism. (Success has a way of quashing the critics.) (NT) -- Elaine, 16:57:45 08/10/09 Mon

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• I'm wondering if Carla or Tracy recognized the title for Chapter 28? (NT) -- celtgirl, 13:40:08 08/10/09 Mon
  • I did - GBS :-) (NT) -- Mahri, 13:46:48 08/10/09 Mon
    • Very good, you get the prize, a night of dark passion with Casey. (NT) -- celtgirl, 13:50:13 08/10/09 Mon
      • Oh *THUD* I can't even think straight anymore, how am I to make dinner now? :-) (NT) -- Mahri, 13:58:40 08/10/09 Mon
        • I dunno, I merely disburse the prizes, I am not responsible for how you deal with said prize once you have it. :) (NT) -- celtgirl, 14:02:46 08/10/09 Mon
  • Nooooo, man I missed that one! What was I thinking last night not to clue in??? Well, the grand prize could not have gone to a nicer woman and Mahri may you enjoy your lustful night of dark passion with Casey!! (NT) -- Tracy, 17:13:35 08/10/09 Mon
  • Hey! I recognized the title too, I was just at work all day. I even remember us talking about that song when it first came out and you saying that it really struck a cord with you. Can I get a night of dark passion with Casey too? Pretty please with a cherry on top. (NT) -- Carla, 17:45:17 08/10/09 Mon

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• I'm probably the only one who worried that Pamela was too young to be 'saddled' with raising a troubled teen under her roof. Casey, yeah, he was well-suited for the job. But Pamela was only separated from her teens by a few short years. There are few things that can wreak havoc on a marriage like the tricks of a wayward teen, and Pamela and Casey weren't exactly on firm ground yet, marriage-wise. But then, thankfully, it seemed to work despite my concerns. At least to a point, but I don't want to get into spoilers. (NT) -- E, 15:48:31 08/10/09 Mon
  • I've just never seen Pamela as that young, I mean I know she is but she's always come across, to me, as older or something, probably because of her life experiences and being on her own at such a young age. (NT) -- Mahri, 17:01:33 08/10/09 Mon
    • (Oops, posted twice for some reason.) (NT) -- Elaine (), 17:06:21 08/10/09 Mon
    • She does seem older than her years, I agree. She always did seem older. But I still don't think it's good to take in a teenager until you really know and understand teenagers in general, and troubled teenagers in particular. It is sure a whole 'nuther world. That's just a personal thing from one who has taken in older foster children, including one named Lawrence (Little Larry in our house). Now I'm straying too far from the conversation! This part of the storyline hits particularly close to home with me, so I probably shouldn't speak to it, sorry. (NT) -- Elaine, 17:07:35 08/10/09 Mon
      • I don't know if this is applicable to the situation between Casey & Pamela, but from personal observation, I have noticed that people in marriages that have (cough) issues, they sometimes bring third parties into the situation (friends with troubles that move in with them, for example)....and it seems like it is often a buffer for their own problems. I've seen this happen often. I wondered if Lawrence might have been...intentional or not....a buffer for them. They were able to focus on helping him, rather than on the as yet uncovered strains within their marriage. (NT) -- Tess, 18:48:50 08/10/09 Mon
        • That's an interesting thought, Tess. (NT) -- Elaine, 22:40:01 08/10/09 Mon
      • Oh don't apologize E - of course you should speak to it, especially if you have experience (unless you mean you shouldn't speak because it brings back bad memories). I sometiemes (alot actually) have a hard time, especially if I've read the whole book, speaking to just the moment in question w/o infusing what I know happens in the future. Does that make sense? Sometimes I do remember exactly what I felt or thought when I first read something, before knowing how it all turns out..but mostly I'm answering in hindsight and forget to stay in the moment :-) (NT) -- Mahri, 05:25:34 08/11/09 Tue

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• I don't know that I would have whatever it is that's required to take a troubled teen into my home, although I hope that if faced with somebody like Lawrence who truly had no options I would step up to the plate. It's surely a test of many things, though, as all children are. On the other topic, I don't think Casey can be a minor member of anything. Even if he wanted to stay in the background or have a small role, the men about him would not let it happen, they would naturally turn to him. He's also not the type to stand by and watch others make predictable mistakes or treat people badly. I think, for Casey, either he's in or he's out, there's nothing in between. (NT) -- Carla, 17:49:36 08/10/09 Mon

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• 28) I don't see Casey & Pamela as parents to Flip but rather as older siblings, which Casey has a bit of experience with. 29) What's the saying the mind is willing but the body is weak...I think Casey really wants to walk away from the IRA, afterall it's much safer for his family, but so much of who he is stems from being a part of them that I often wonder if laboring and watching after ruffians will be enough. (NT) -- CindyS, 18:12:31 08/10/09 Mon