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Date Posted: 08:03:39 10/31/09 Sat
Author: Joel to David
Subject: Re: The Challenge
In reply to: David to Joel 's message, "The Challenge" on 18:02:46 10/27/09 Tue

Hey David, "big brother"...
Now that I know what all the message and CHALLENGE is about... I ACCEPT!

That was really a sly thing to do at your parents' Sunday Dinner invite to see "an opening" to bring up the past incident about Rick taking the spanking for the cig incident, and admit that they were yours.
I glad nothing HAPPENED to your butt with your dad that day, you mentioned wanting to "set the record straight" and if it happened that dad might want to paddle you now for the past incident that you would not protest.
Would you have been surprised IF your dad would have called your bluff and gave you a paddling?
I can talk to my dad, David. I've tried several time to see if I could get an answer out of him why he never spanked me growing up or even now. He always would want to change the subject or not give me a straight answer. I thought maybe if I kept at it, you know, really persisted that I would get him mad enough at me to give me answer or let alone grab me and give me butt a good spanking/paddling/whipping...but again, he would change the subject or walk away from me.
As for bringing up the past, I guess I could, BUT I would be breaking "promises" if you want to call'em that. The paddling from coach for snapping the towels I didn't think it necessary to tell my dad as I thought this matter was between Coach and me, and I don't know if Coach would get into trouble or not for paddling me.
Coach is a really cool guy, David, and I know he wouldn't do anything that he knew wasn't for my own good, but I did own up to "breaking the rule and lying " to him, and he never brought it up that I SHOULD tell my parents what I did. AS for if I did, punishment? What would dad really give me, IF I couldn't get him to paddle me? I would believe taking my car away from me for awhile (which he did one time) would probably really be the punishment I would get, not that I couldn't live without driving for awhile, which I can, but to TALK DAD INTO GIVING ME A PADDLING INSTEAD would be the challenge and I'd bet gving up my drivers license for a whole month that he would go for it!
As for the paddling from the principal, to "GET THAT" I had to agree NOT to tell my folks was the agreement between the principal and me, I had to sign papers for a release to get the paddling and that I got one, etc. If I admitted to dad that I got the paddling I wonder if he would go to the principal, which I wouldn't care if he did, but then I would look like to the principal that I didn't keep my word and can't be honest and trusted. Would you look at it as such?
So I guess the only REAL option I got to negotiate to get a paddling from my dad would be for me to "screw up" something, misbehave in some manner or break a rule of some kind and use a "current" happening to try to convince my dad that I need a paddling or try trading for one, right?
AS for Kyle, a few times he's brought up that matter and told my dad while I was growing up that I "needed to be spanked" or "If I was Joel and my dad saw what I did, he'd certainly spank me for that", which NEVER motivated my dad to do it!
As for Kyle's dad, a few times when I was younger growing up he made the comment to my dad, in a friendly and considerate manner of a friend, "you should control your boy more, give his butt a good spanking (or paddling or whipping) to teach him you mean business..." so to teach in so many words.
So David, see what I have been up against all of these years, not getting spanked/paddled/whipping?
So I guess we could see if something might "happen" and I try again with the telling dad, "I would rather get paddled or whipped for punishment!"
So you would bring your retired paddle out of "retirement" for me, huh? Big brother, that is soooo cool that you would that to help "motivate" me.
I realize you are not encouraging me to go out and mess up deliberately, which I won't, BUT if an Open Door comes along then you MUST go through with a paddling from Rick, RIGHT?
I want my dad to paddle me on my bare butt, at least one time in my life, so your prepared, even now at age 23 to have Rick paddle you bare butt? I was thinking to have dad bend me over his leg, and while one hand has paddle in hand, the other hand and arm would be across my back to keep me steady and not want to pull away from him will he gives me a good butt paddling! You agree for that for you too David, to have Rick give you a paddling in that matter?
Is there a time limit before you would withdraw the challenege to me?
I hope not! It's not going to be easy, but I want it to happen!
I accept the challenege, and will do my darnest to make it come true, and I really appreciate your suggestions and help in this venture.
You are a TRUE FRIEND to want to help me, and even put your butt on the line for me to reach this goal.
Geeze David... challenge on the table, dude!
I ACCEPT IT!

P.S. Kyle knows, and others too, that I WOULD NOT lie to say that my dad gave me a paddling and he didn't to win the challenge.
Kyle would pound my butt, IF I tried such a stunt!

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