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Subject: Anyone watching night two prelims???
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 21:24:56 Talents have been interesting. They forgot to turn on the microphone for one singer and now there is a monologue about vaccinating lambs. For real. Lots of monologues [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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as of right now, SC takes talent prelim (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 21:28:43 CO was also strong, but SC looks like a winner., tonight and on Saturday as well (NT) -- What’s her background?, Thu June 20, 2024 21:39:43 Love SC 👏 (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 01:06:38 Top gowns were TN, GA, ID, and Arkansas. (NT) -- Thoughts?, Thu June 20, 2024 22:05:15 LA was stunning in gown and presentation was beautiful. (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 23:20:25 Pennsylvania was stunning in evening gown. (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 22:05:27 Was PA wearing red? And was right before Wyoming? She was stunning! (NT) -- Missed fitness. Are they going for super thin look?, Thu June 20, 2024 22:18:41 Nebraska should win talent. Hands down. CO was probably second best. (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 22:08:43 sc talent was not strong by any means (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 22:18:12 SC had an entertaining talent ! Loved it!!! (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 01:08:55 Judging was a little less on the nose tonight. If there was a 3-way tie, I’m shocked MO wasn’t one of them - great body and best performance. Talent is a shocker to me. SC was fine, but she got tons of pretty points. There was nothing remarkable about her skill/ability. It was a bit gimmicky. Nebraska’s talent brought the house down. I really don’t get it. (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 22:18:25 I 100% agree. All SS winners were strong and deserving, although I had MO in my top 2. I hope NE at least gets to perform on Saturday. I'd love to hear her play again. (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 22:23:41 Volunteer only wants pretty girls, doesn’t matter If they aren’t technically the best or most advanced in talent. They just want whoever looks the prettiest on stage (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 22:24:14 Hannah has been a great national titleholder but unfortunately her talent was nowhere near as advanced or technical as some of the other girls who competed with her last year. (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 22:27:52 And that's fine - let her win because she's tops in 3/4 categories. But the categories should be judged without bringing non-relevant considerations to bear. I liked what SC did - she was fun and a good performer. She was not the best talent. (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 23:44:01 One misconception about talent is it’s only based on talent. No, it’s not. It’s based on performance and entertainment value. Hence why NE was the most talented on that stage, but playing instruments is naturally harder to have the same entertainment value as a song or dance because it’s more difficult to connect to the audience when you need to watch your fingers. Singers and dancers mostly win in pageantry because the art form is most likely to connect to an audience. Based purely on talent, NE should have won. Adding the performance and entertainment value, it was a toss up between NE, NC, and CO (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 23:55:54 Volunteer represents beauty. If you want mediocre go to MAO. (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 01:06:41 I find NE to be beautiful - she has a lovely face and there is something calming and pleasant in her demeanor - she's very likable. I had her winning talent and MO winning SS. The winners are all fine choices, but MO had the body and the best overall presentation. You could tell she was living her best life. (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 10:57:07 I know Nebraska - Christina and she is a wonderful, generous and kind person...and oh what a talent! I'd like to think (hope) she was second place by a point! (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 14:45:29 Agree. Nebraska would have been my pick for talent. The 3 way tie winners all look the same, so I kinda get it. LoL! (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 22:24:20 AZ was my pick for SS. Personally, I felt she had an understated confidence and poise in her walk while other girls felt too desperate or performative. NE and SC were my top two talents and I could’ve seen it going either way. I really hope to see both talents again Saturday! -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 22:50:14 CT looked amazing in SS. Washing too. Could’ve gone several other ways. -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 23:05:46 I think for SS the judges were going for the classic confident pageant girl look. All the winners were strong and I truly could have seen this prelim going to a number of girls tonight (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 00:03:29 Agreed. The judges clearly had a type in mind and it held more to a fierce and sexy vibe which is what I think hurt KY, MA, and MO who were strong, but felt like they had more of a younger or more cute than sexy vibe. But truly this prelim could have gone to almost anyone (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 00:11:08 I thought MO was a totally different caliber of confidence and look. I don't understand how she would not be in that top 3 much less didn't win. And in talent, NE was clearly the most skilled of the group. CO's opera had the vocal quality but did not match the substantive content/meaning of the song and I thought the winner was kind of frenetic in her presentation. Talent at least was more of a narrow margin -- I found last night's results in fitness to be bizarre. (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 15:31:13 I was surprised at MS talent, was expecting something much better (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 22:25:46 FLORIDA -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 22:26:33 Seriously? (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 00:06:30 …yes -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 12:02:48 I loved FL! (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 14:07:10 Talent scoring off, it should have been Nebraska or Ohio or Colorado (NT) -- No name, Thu June 20, 2024 23:40:03 Yes, it did seem off to me as well. (NT) -- No name, Thu June 27, 2024 20:38:43 I had NE for talent but still really enjoyed SC, I think it comes down to who the judge like best, which is looking like SC (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 00:05:03 I had MO as number 1 in swimsuit and AZ as 2nd so I was shocked to not see MO but happy for AZ. I liked AL as well she’s beautiful and her swimsuit stood out (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 00:07:57 I had NE or OH for talent, but SC was entertaining as well. (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 00:30:52 CO had the best talent tonight. -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 01:49:52 She is a good singer to be sure, but she did this thing that many pageant talents do. The performance charaterization didn't align with the material. CO's song need a character that was more whimsical and coquettish. CO was more stoic and serious in her delivery and it just felt disconnected to me as a viewer. I'm sure she scored well because she has technique and lovely tone. I had NE winning talent; but can see how SC won based on the performance quality (even if her dance was nothing remarkable). (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 10:53:06 I agree! SC draws you to the stage with her presence! My eyes goes to her on stage! (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 12:32:54 OH was definitely my pick for talent. I thought it had a lot of entertainment value, i.e. Darci Lynne (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 09:19:56 Ohio was really good. They had the camera up close and her lips didn't move. (NT) -- and it's appropriate for 2y - 108y, Fri June 21, 2024 18:11:33

Subject: Prelims night 3!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Fri June 21, 2024 20:05:55 Who is watching? Any predictions for tonight? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Some strong contestants in swimsuit! SC or MS for the win, both NC and KS were also amazing! (NT) -- Poor FL! Did no one tell her something white was hanging out the back of her suit?, Fri June 21, 2024 20:38:51 Loved NC in that black swimsuit. Was it velvet? (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 20:44:25 The Carolina Girls NC & SC looked awesome in Swimsuit! (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 21:08:56 Looked like velvet (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 23:20:51 I think a tie between MS and SC (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 21:28:09 Tops in talent tonight: MN who had to perform twice due to sound issues; NH, GA, CA, and PA. (NT) -- TN was showy. But was it talent?, Fri June 21, 2024 21:33:17 Disappointed in Texas. They have such a strong board, but they nissed the boat with the prep and styling of this young woman (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 22:00:35 SC is pretty much a blonde carbon copy of Hannah. The winner was predictable last year, will be predictable again. (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 22:15:39 I didn't think Hannah was predictable last year. Her talent was mediocre at best. The bottom 5 of the top 10 had much better talents in my opinion. I hope that this year's winner has more consistency. (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 22:18:44 What a final night of prelims! So many great moments! MN on the Fiddle, the incredible high energy dancers, the Swimsuits and the beautiful gowns! I loved that they gave out the Volunteer awards! Truly speaks to the mission of the organization! (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 22:28:45 Would someone kindly list all the preliminary winners in Miss Volunteer America this year? Thank you so much! (NT) -- Devotia (Joy) Bagelman, Fri June 21, 2024 22:42:40 Swim suit have went to NC or MS, SC looked anorexic! (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 23:10:59 Anorexic are strong words. Let’s don’t body shame anyone in this pageant. Celebrate a woman’s success. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 00:53:20 Miss SC was fit in swim!!! Love her! (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 02:50:00 MS was the one who was too then. Especially evident when she put her arms on her hips… (NT) -- Shoulders and rib cage pulled way too tight across the bones, Sat June 22, 2024 18:08:42 KY had the best gown of the pageant. Probably cost a kidney but I have to give it to her. It was beautiful (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 23:14:02 NO WAY SC should have won swim! Should have went to MS & NC, they got robbed! (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 23:18:34 I’ve been at all preliminaries and don’t have a girl in this pageant but SC is absolutely the best of the best. Her talent was entertaining, great costume, great stage presence! Her swimsuit was WOW! Healthy, beautiful body. And her walk is untouchable. There are beautiful girls competing. So exciting! (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 00:51:27 As a retired pageant coach who led two girls to win Miss America and one to win Miss USA, I strongly disagree. I’m not entirely sure how exactly the scoring works to determine the winners, but the outcomes of this pageant is showing the organization’s amateurism pretty bad. Also the judging committee could be more diverse in some ways. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 01:44:16 NC was my pick for SS win followed by Misssissippi. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 06:08:22 First thoughts, the life style and fitness music for the girls was just bad, give them some better music to model to, it was elevator music. I was surprised with the life style and fitness winner also. The 3 girls from the night before looked very healthy and fit. SC was a little too thin for me and sucked in a little to hard when she poised in front of judges. MS or NC both looked amazing. Loved NC’s swim, it looked velvet, I’m sure it was Pixton or Shaw. Talent winner was one of my top picks she was technically good but I thought the violin wound have won. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 10:19:17 NC’s swim suit was black velvet by Jamye Shaw. Perfection! (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 11:11:55 NC should have won last night. Followed by MS. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 11:37:13 I 💯 agree. It was my favorite suit of the week, and she looked amazing in it. Angelo Frasier posted on his Instagram that he trained her. She should do USA. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 12:06:14 She reminded me of Olivia Jordan in swimsuit. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 12:26:19 Volunteer is like a county fair pageant. The talent scoring is an insult to women who really have talent. While MAO is out promoting winners who are doctors, Nuclear Engineers, and USAF pilots, volunteer is promoting the girl who looks hottest at the local amusement park. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 10:25:12 Volunteer is a beauty pageant. Thank God! MAO certainly isn’t a beauty pageant but rather a contest of who can raise the most money and pad state directors pockets. MAO is outdated and so irrelevant. Remember, it’s called a beauty pageant. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 11:41:38 I don’t disagree with the drawbacks of MAO. (Unpaid scholarships) It still doesn’t invalidate the previous statement. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 12:28:23 But who cares if contestants are doctors, lawyers, pilots etc. Let’s be truthful contestants spend way more to compete than awarded in scholarships. It’s like an Olympic sport, you spend tons of money on training and equipment but only get endorsed if you win the gold. With that being said, I can assure you a beautiful girl will get endorsements way quicker and easier than someone who is just accomplished professionally. Once again, it’s a Beauty Pageant. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 14:00:07 Spot on! The MAO: "A contest of who can raise the most money and pad state directors pockets." (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 14:11:14 Most girls competing in MAO also can’t do fitness and wellness! (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 14:40:54 I suppose you could say a "county fair pageant" at a national level. I think 25% for talent is perfectly fine, if you want your system to emphasize beauty over talent overall. There's nothing wrong with that. Miss America still exists if you want talent and interview to be your emphasis. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, Sat June 22, 2024 18:02:06 I bet they remove talent from Miss America before next years competition. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 19:00:38 I seriously doubt that. (NT) -- No name, Thu June 27, 2024 20:35:45

Subject: The DeMarcus Indulgence
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Thu June 20, 2024 23:39:17 I want to preface this by saying I like what Alison is trying to achieve with the Volunteer system and I am rooting for it to succeed. I also think they are a lovely family who clearly adore each other. However.... I just can't help but cringe at all the self-indulgent behavior I see from the DeMarcus family. Alison has 1000 gown changes, Jay thinks it's amateur night at the Laugh Factory (often saying inappropriate things) and they have their kids performing, one is apparently Volunteer Princess emerita. It all just feels self-aggrandizing. This isn't a local or even a state pageant - maybe that would fly there. This is a program that is trying to build a national pedigree and take over the top spot from an iconic institution. This indulgence and focus on their family just doesn't scream, "We are a serious organization and are trying to elevate pageantry." The video with Sydney Dion was perfect. They should focus on showcasing aspirational figures who lend relevance to the sport of pageantry. They also need to get a proper PR team that can help develop a stronger grass-roots movement that attracts new contestants, engages communities and fosters more robust sponsorship (including in-kind scholarships from universities). Right now, the program is reading like a top-notch state pageant. I'm just not seeing the vision clearly articulated and I think the over-indulgence of the DeMarcus family would be a turn off to would-be sponsors viewing the pageant for the first time. They have such a strong foundation and they could be successful, but it's time to get serious and stop with the DeMarcus Family Fun Hour. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Yes! If offering a free live stream, then they need to stop with the family singing live and put on some sponsored commercials breaks. Let the family sing for the in person audience on prelim nights, but what is aired has to do better. The camera angles are poor, the camera shots showing Alison backstage, Jay seems inebriated… It comes across as state pageant. And the only singers and dancers that should be on that stage are the talent of the girls competing for the title. I love the idea of the live band but it has to be well rehearsed. For SS the band sounded off rhythm and key. (NT) -- No name (Rooting for MVA), Thu June 20, 2024 23:53:52 I hate to admit it; but I agree with you. I love how proud Alison is of her family and they seem like genuinely good people but you're right. It DOES kind of feel like the DeMarcus Family Fun Hour and it just comes across as a bit unsophisticated. I hope Alison will step back and look at the production in an objective way and ask herself, "Could this be a primetime show on network TV?" Right now, the answer is no. (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 11:01:00 Is Alison’s sister still involved in the pageant? And her niece? She used to do all the production numbers with Alison’s daughter, in matching outfits. (NT) -- The niece is beautiful, does she compete in pageants?, Fri June 21, 2024 13:06:51 Her niece is a national titleholder with NAM (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 17:04:00 I'm so glad someone said it. I agree, they seem like a nice family, but all the attention on the family has been quite cringy to watch. Allison needs to be directing this program, not emceeing. Her husband, bless him. Please just get him off stage. And the children, let's find somewhere else to showcase them. It is all just a bit much. As someone said, it's time to get serious and be a bit more professional. (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 13:40:49 I love everything Allison is doing! Love the family involvement the world needs more that! There is not one thing wrong! The stage is amazing! She has tons of sponsors backing here and it grows more each year! (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 15:40:23 This blind devotion doesn't do the program any favors. Any good, sustainable organization needs to be able to practice rigorous honesty and take credible challenge. I'm not seeing something that A-list sponsors and broadcast/streaming services would pay for. They are off to a good start, but this is not a sophisticated production.... and it's fine to be pro-family and despite the platitudes, maybe the world does need more family bonding...but do that at home. They are not the Mandrell Sisters or the Osmond Family. Build the business, build the brand - find the "so what" that makes this pageant a real product. (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 20:18:26 Personally I love Allison and Jay Emceeing. Would love to see just a little of the banter then mostly serious and respectful. I love the kids but this should be their last year “in” the show. I know it's hard when you have kids - but it's time to move into the next phase. There are other ways to include them. (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 16:22:52 Agree about the kids. The daughter just didn’t seem to be feeling it up on stage… (NT) -- The son was a good singer though… but soon his voice will change…, Fri June 21, 2024 16:49:07 Exactly - they choose banter over keeping the focus on the contestants and telling the "story" of Miss Volunteer America. (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 20:20:20 Much much better tonight (via the broadcast!) the commercials were great in place of fill! Looked much more put together! (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 22:20:38 Agreed - it was much more about the competition and the contestants. The personality videos were a nice touch - but it would be nice if they could talk about issues with more substance...leggings vs. yoga pants? Really? I don't think that's elevating women and revealing their intellect. (NT) -- No name, Fri June 21, 2024 23:55:33 Click in -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 13:20:50 MS was much thinner…. Upper body and shoulders were bony. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 13:25:57 Love what they are doing and seem to truly care about the contestants and providing an excellent experience, however the gown changes are comical. DO the kids have a life outside of helping mom with her pageants? Kimd fo sad but they do seem to love each other and have fun. (NT) -- LEE, Sat June 22, 2024 17:35:29 Emcee Opinion - Christine -- No name, Sun June 23, 2024 22:49:28 Yes, please! Christine and other former titleholders. (NT) -- No name, Wed June 26, 2024 19:29:11 Oh god please no!! The girl is so self centered she doesn't know when to stop chasing a crown. I can't stand to listen to her during the teen pageant (NT) -- No name, Thu June 27, 2024 20:01:42 well wehn you dont use Pageantlive for your production and use Franknk -- Frank is lazy, Tue June 25, 2024 20:54:27 I agree and for the love of all that’s holy, cut down the talent intros! Some are like a dang book! 2-3 sentences is plenty. The life stories need to stop! (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 19:07:26 I love the talent intros. I WANT to hear about the girl. I want to hear her mom got a second job to pay for dance lessons, and now she's trying out for the Rockettes. I love the stories! I love the girls being recognized for their hard work. (NT) -- No name, Sat June 22, 2024 20:54:31 Have the stupid people watching Volunteer and even Tennessee when Allison was running it, the Auditors NEVER give her the Top 12 after the Top 16 is announced, and the Top 10 is never given to her from the Auditors during the show. Only the Top 10 in EG and Swimsuit are being scored when there are 16 and 12 on stage. (NT) -- No name, Wed June 26, 2024 00:14:45 They are pretty transparent about this. The 11-16 spots are only based on prelim scores so no need to get that from the judges. They already know. Only the 10 are being scored on final night so she only needs to get the list of 5. (NT) -- No name, Wed June 26, 2024 10:15:55 Yes, they officially told the contestants this would be the case during orientation back in March. (NT) -- No name, Thu June 27, 2024 18:21:22

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