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Subject: Miss Clayland contestants Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 09:56:53 10/03/22 Mon Carli Seabolt, 20, is a vocalist from West Salem. She is a student at Northwestern Oklahoma State University. Her Social Impact Initiative is Up In Smoke. Caitlin Seifert, 24, is a baton twirler from Niles. She is a graduate of Kent State University. Her Social Impact Initiative is Turn a Key: Opening the Door to Volunteering. Emily Legenza, 24, is a vocalist from Athens. She is a graduate of Ohio University. Her Social Impact Initiative is Teaching Gratitude. Lynsey Stonebraker, 20, is a speed painter from Coshocton. She is a student at Mount Vernon Nazarene University. Her Social Impact Initiative is Mentoring America Mission. Marina DeNunzio, 20, is a vocalist from Shaker Heights. She is a student at The Ohio State University. Her Social Impact Initiative is Project Fearless Ohio – ending Relationship Abuse & Empowering Healthy Relationships. Autumn Abdullah, 20, is a baton twirler from Warren. She is a student from Kent State University – Trumbull. Her Social Impact Initiative is Women’s awareness and volunteering. Piper Lambert, 18, is a vocalist from East Palestine. She is a student at Youngstown State University. Her Social Impact Initiative is Encouraging Community Enrichment and Service. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Carli for the win but Ohio doesn’t deserve her and she’s better off In Oklahoma Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:01:12 10/03/22 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Did Carli compete? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:10:41 10/17/22 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Who is the better baton twirler? I don’t know who Autumn is. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:21:43 10/04/22 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: They have both studied with the same teacher, who coached Miss Missouri 2019 Simone Esters Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:47:44 10/05/22 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Awesome! Caity is great so I hope this other contestant is too. Call me old fashioned but I always love watching baton twirlers. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:44:24 10/06/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: I love seeing a teen come directly to the Miss program. Too many teen candidates take a few years off and never make it back to compete. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:12:38 10/05/22 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Anticipating Caitlin to win…. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:52:18 10/05/22 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Probably will cause Martha likes experience. Betta didn't win there last year 😂 so Carli will win Maple City Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:01:41 10/06/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Caitlin is Miss Clayland 2022! Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:58:00 10/15/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: No surprise there. She’s great! Congratulations! 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗 Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:32:41 10/16/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Runner ups please? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:33:34 10/16/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Marina DeNunzio was 1st runner up, Emily Legenza won the community service award, Caitlin Seifert won the talent award and the Random Acts of Kindness Award Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:31:03 10/16/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Caitlin was definitely deserving of the win! Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:30:21 10/17/22 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Definitely! Was she also one who met to get pointers and advise, either in person or via Zoom from the June 2022 MOSP judge Ann Schertzer, along with Olivia "Via", Brittney H and Madison M? It proves to be working; they're winning now. Wishing Caitlin the very best at states! Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:14:45 10/18/22 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Via hasn’t competed once this season. And why wouldn’t have BH thanked Ann in her big coaching post on Instagram? Madison is a VKM girl (so is Via) & didn’t need Ann’s help because of it. Stop spreading lies. Author: You want real drama? Talk about the girls who secretly coach with Judy. She’s just as bad as Vicki. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:38:10 10/19/22 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Ann told Madison Miller to pick a fun, light piano piece and to wear a different costume. Worked for her at North Coast. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:57:43 10/19/22 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: There have been 2 locals. Via saw who SO wanted to win this year so she knows the deal but she knew in 2021. Brittney wouldn't have thanked Ann in her big coaching post bc Ann's not a coach. It's not wrong or weak for a contestant to seek out advice, even from more than one person. While Judy does have some old school ways, she knows how to cut through a girl's crap and tell them what they're doing wrong. Paid coaches won't tell you the bad news, bc they want you to keep paying them! Author: Who cares if Caitlyn did talk to Ann S? [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:09:24 10/19/22 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Oh please, Brittney could’ve thanked whoever she wanted it was for “coaches and supporters” and Via can do whatever she wants, the point is OP was lying. Nobody said Judy was a bad coach either, nor is VKM, she isn’t paid either remember! But Judy’s girls also magically get rewarded, we just don’t talk about it like we do VKM. Author: Level the playing field and out all of these “non-paid” coaches. Oh sorry, I mean mentors! [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:25:03 10/19/22 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: People pay Vicki and Casey to make them look ridiculous. Vicki styles them to look like a politician’s middle aged wife. And Casey wears matching outfits with her girls. Then there’s Judy that has gifted gowns and Heather who was drunk and all over Steven at the after party. All of them are pathetic in different ways. Ann seems like a better alternative. I really hope Betta is getting outside styling. She has a great look and I’d hate to see someone ruin it Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:55:49 10/20/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Betta is getting the best of advice and styling. She wants to bring home the title and her family is helping. She is working her tail off to make us all proud. Let’s get behind her and cheer her on. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:32:53 10/20/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Definitely cheering her on. I hope she gets all the best guidance and the board just shuts up and lets her be her best self. Stevie might have to pay for a parade. lol Will Madison be crowned then? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:47:50 10/20/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: What's wrong with people gifting gowns to girls??? Or is it Judy isn't interested in helping you? And are you speaking of the Miss Ohio Heather? And the Miss Ohio judge isn't a coach, right?? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:06:17 10/21/22 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I can't figure out what you're actually arguing. Who cares if Brittney mentions this woman online or not? Or talks with her? It's the judges who break the rules by speaking with the girls. As a girl, I'd absolutely talk with a judge. And it doesn't change that Ann S is not a coach, so it's a moot point. 2 locals doesn't mean much as to Via returning. My point is she knows where she stands. I read "You want real drama? as talking about Judy stirring drama. Vicki may not be paid, but she's with the MO program and has her favorite local girls as we all see online. And you don't know enough MO history if you think SO would reward Judy for anything! Author: more [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:15:26 10/21/22 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Who's Judy? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 04:05:55 10/20/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Keeyes Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:08:28 10/20/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: #1. Per their agreement, judges are forbidden from speaking with contestants about their performance/ scores. 2. Who knows if "it's working". There really wasn't competition at Clayland. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:54:24 10/19/22 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: #1 Ann went up to a batch of girls at the MO after party. Doesn’t mean they took her up on it. #2 Good thing maple city is the last scheduled local, they’ll have barely anyone again! Betta needs to get recruiting after MA Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:29:28 10/19/22 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: A very reliable board member said she came to the July board meeting and said she met with candidates via Zoom and in person. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:06:03 10/20/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: They will have to crown 20 girls at the “digital local.” What a joke! Can we stop pretending that this isn’t buy a title like USA or Volunteer? Also, reliable board member? In Ohio? That’s an oxymoron! Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:08:58 10/20/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: We all know this. We all know MO/MA is down the tubes! Who cares if MO is a buy in- what do you expect with a FOR PROFIT company? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:08:30 10/21/22 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: There is NOTHING wrong with a girl taking a judge up on hearing their opinions/advice. There is no rule that prevents girls from being advised- it's the judges who signed a document saying they wouldn't speak to contestants. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:11:06 10/21/22 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Definitely not faulting the girls. Get that advice from a judge who watched all areas, heck yes! But the judges sign a contract that they won’t be on girls social media channels or talk to them about their performance. It’s the judge who crossed the line. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:38:45 10/21/22 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Betta can't fix the pageant community's broken trust of Steven and the Miss Ohio Board, and it's not her job. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:03:34 10/21/22 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]