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Miss Ohio Chat
Discussion of Miss Ohio America Program, Miss Ohio Volunteer, & updates on Miss OH USA.
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Subject: Miss Oxford/ Tallawanda
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:36:15 03/02/22 Wed Who is competing? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Why waste time?? Just go on-line, submit your best version of talent, and take one of the zillion sweeps titles they are giving away… (NT) -- No name, 16:26:12 03/02/22 Wed YOU go to Miss Ohio!! YOU go to Miss Ohio!! YOU go to Miss Ohio!! EVERYBODY GOES TO MISS OHIO!! (NT) -- They won't be taken seriously., 09:48:20 03/04/22 Fri Miss Oxford Miranda Nichols Miss Tallawanda Marina DeNunzio (NT) -- No name, 16:14:35 03/06/22 Sun Did they have 6 contestants? Who competed? (NT) -- No name, 08:01:34 03/10/22 Thu

Subject: Like for real… does Lora plan to do ANYTHING as Miss Ohio? Or is she done because she didn’t win Miss America? Hosting locals doesn’t count as an appearance. God she’s awful.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:20:35 03/08/22 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It was Nat’l Read Across America last week…isn’t this her ‘SII’….how hard would it have been to got to a few schools to read??? I mean really..how easy would that have been? What happened to her Podcast? Commitment to literacy and the chance to have shared her ‘story’ across our state? It’s as if she had zero insight into any of her responsibilities at all. And don’t blame the board on this one..all she has to do is follow the social media platforms of her ‘sisters’ to understand what at least LOOKS like an engaged state title holder. There are just no excuses… (NT) -- No name, 22:20:37 03/08/22 Tue The whole program, from the BOD to the directors to the titleholders, is a total shtshow. Nobody even cares at this point. It's laughable. (NT) -- No name, 20:29:22 03/09/22 Wed* This past year was the straw to break the camel’s back….over the past 5-6yrs it’s been in a steady decline. Can’t believe what’s happened to our once ‘premier’ pageant state….so, so sad… (NT) -- No name, 21:49:08 03/09/22 Wed

Subject: Miss Portsmouth/Shawnee Contestants
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:22:41 02/23/22 Wed 1. Alyssa Redoutey 18, acrobatic box routine, Lucasville 2. Victoria Adams 23, baton, Bucyrus 3. Mozie van Raaij 20, guitarist, South Charleston 4. Madison Kellough 22, contemporary dance, Circleville 5. Emily Oram 19, spoken word ”If the Stars Could Speak”, Patriot 6. Emily Fields 21, tap, Aurora 7. Ivy Parker 19, vocalist, Columbus Grove 8. Lynsey Stonebraker 20, musical theater, Coshocton 9. Baylee Joy Martin, 21, South Webster 10. Brittney Herman 25, flute, Grove City 11. Autumn Kessler 25, tap, Bethesda . [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Miss Portsmouth- Baylee Joy Martin; Miss Shawnee- Autumn Kessler; 1RU Brittney Herman; 2RU Alyssa Redoutey; 3RU toss up. (NT) -- No name, 17:42:40 02/23/22 Wed Why do you think Kessler will win Shawnee? Don’t they like their ‘local’ girls more??? Herman could take it, but what’s the difference. The rest will get sweeps titles…. (NT) -- No name, 19:31:47 02/23/22 Wed She's last, guessing she has better talent, and she can't have the Portsmouth title. Bailey is the only local girl. Better scholarship, decent prep vs a sweep's mentor. (NT) -- No name, 21:05:11 02/23/22 Wed Forgot Alyssa Redoutey from Lucasville. Did she compete there as a teen? (NT) -- No name, 21:07:35 02/23/22 Wed RESULTS: Miss Portsmouth- Baylee Joy Martin; Miss Shawnee- Autumn Kessler; Miss Southern Ohio- Brittney Herman. (NT) -- dead on, 20:00:29 02/27/22 Sun Miss Ohio 2022: Baylee Joy Martin; 1RU Madelanah McFarland; 2RU EmmaRose Lewis (NT) -- No name, 22:57:34 02/27/22 Sun Now that’s an interesting prediction…not sure I’m in agreement…be then again, anything can happen in our odd state these days.. (NT) -- No name, 14:41:08 02/28/22 Mon at the pageant and the three winners were spot on -- No name, 08:43:03 02/28/22 Mon Baylee has the best track record at state, as she's the only one who's made T9 and won the top crown at the first local she competed in. Madelanah has the best local track record this year, beating Emma, Emily Legenza, and Caitlin. Emma beat , Madison, Autumn, Caitlin, Olivia K, and Elizabetta Nies. Elizabetta beat Brittney, Emily L, and Caitiln. Then Caitlin beat Britney, Olivia K, and Madison. (NT) -- No name, 19:06:50 02/28/22 Mon Honestly, there’s no more rhyme nor reason to how our state selects. Period. If they were smart, they would only have a Top 5 this year…. (NT) -- No name, 21:54:01 02/28/22 Mon There has been rhyme and reason for 15+yrs to how our state selects Miss Ohio-- they select her! (NT) -- The real results are 1RU on down., 16:42:20 03/02/22 Wed I stand corrected….you’re 100% accurate… (NT) -- No name, 22:27:24 03/03/22 Thu

Subject: Sweeps are now digital submissions with only a live interview
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:14:11 02/26/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Well, this should be interesting. How many titles will be given out?? And what does digital submission actually mean? Is that submitting talent and pitch? What a joke… (NT) -- No name, 17:49:28 02/26/22 Sat It’s absolutely a way for them to give as many girls titles as possible. (NT) -- No name, 07:21:37 02/28/22 Mon Who is decent enough to be on the Miss Ohio stage? It used to be that you had to place in a local to compete in sweeps. Are they any new girls from Cleveland or Shawnee? They want numbers up, but are they going to 'digitally' crown girls that really shouldn't be there? (NT) -- No name, 19:42:15 02/28/22 Mon From the looks of the email, ‘the more the merrier’…so it appears quantity is FAR the goal v quality….I would much prefer a smaller number of women that are DESERVING to be at state, v a stage full for the sake of filling….no more blaming Covid. Bottom line- failing state leadership and a queen that did zero to promote her program = subpar candidates. (NT) -- No name, 21:50:56 02/28/22 Mon

Subject: Who’s going to take Portsmouth/Shawnee??
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:34:03 02/22/22 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I just realized that every contestant from every open local (who didn't win obviously) competed in Cleveland except for 2 girls, who've competed in MAO/T before so not ONE new recruit. Very sustainable model, lol. Clev did have 7 newbies but 3 were spoken word. (NT) -- No name, 09:28:02 02/23/22 Wed Oops, forgot Autumn. Imagine she'll compete at Portsmouth. She doesn't have to win it all to get a title, since she held Portsmouth last year. (NT) -- No name, 09:32:11 02/23/22 Wed

Subject: Results of Greater Cleveland??
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:16:24 02/12/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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2nd Runner up - Olivia Jarrell, 1st Runner up - Brittany Herman, Miss Spirit of Ohio - Olivia (Via) Kentner, Miss Northern Ohio - Madison Miller, Miss Greater Cleveland - Emily Legenza (NT) -- No name, 13:41:00 02/13/22 Sun Olivia and Madison crowned with VKM as the announcer. 🙄 (NT) -- No name, 14:26:04 02/15/22 Tue Well, she was the MC, correct? Not sure where you are going with this…who else should have announced? (NT) -- No name, 15:18:56 02/15/22 Tue I think the point is probably that Vicky it’s their coach (NT) -- No name, 09:30:51 02/16/22 Wed Vicki Maple has been very involved with MO leadership for years. She preps MO for MA and may do something with the teens? She's had a very close relationship with Madison Miller for over 2 years and the poster here says with Olivia Kentner as well. She should not be involved with locals. It's inappropriate for her to be there as it has the appearance of impropriety. Its' the same as when they used to let Becky Minger MC and she got to coach her girls backstage. (NT) -- But, it's MO, so these girls know they don't follow rules., 13:47:16 02/16/22 Wed So once again, this is gossip unless it’s escalated. If in fact she’s a coach or mentor, it needs to be called out. Nothing else will change. Given the state of affairs of our state and how crooked it really is, why are people not raising their concerns. She’s involved at the state level, she needs to forego local activities which includes coaching..even if money is not exchanged and she serves as a ‘mentor’. Do something about it!! (NT) -- No name, 18:53:05 02/17/22 Thu Well it’s not gossip about Madison Miller. I’m not sure if it’s a paid coaching thing but Vicki is definitely helping/mentoring 2 girls. She posted about it. One is Madison. But who would you report it to? Steven? That’s a joke. Shantell? She doesn’t care. No one outside of this forum cares at all. -- No name, 22:23:54 02/17/22 Thu It doesn't matter if it's paid coaching or not. (NT) -- No name, 18:14:34 02/20/22 Sun Re gossip: spend 5 min on her social media and you'll see who she's buddy buddy with. (NT) -- No name, 13:11:01 02/19/22 Sat

Subject: Miss Greater Cleveland Contestants
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:46:44 01/31/22 Mon Victoria Adams (baton) Marina DeNunzio (sing) Kaley Elliott (spoken word) Trisha Feighan (dance) Emily Fields (dance) Brittany Herman (flute) Desi Hunt (sing) Olivia Jarrell (dance) Olivia Kentner (sing) Emily Legenza (sing) Madison Miller (piano) Olivia Murray (poi ball routine- whatever that is) Emily Oram (spoken word) Ivy Parker (sing) Imani Stephens (spoken word) Lynsey Stonebraker (sing) Mozie van Raaig (guitar) Teens: Emily Gillson (sing) Cassandra Kurek (sing) Piper Lambert (sing) Leilah Mizer (dance) Jocelyn Rohde (sing) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Mozie van Raaig was the 2021 Ohio Fairs' Queen who just handed down her crown. Lynsey Stonebraker was Coshocton Canal Queen 2019-20 and 20-21. Looks like Charmea is picking them out of the fair queen pageant. (NT) -- No name, 20:15:42 01/31/22 Mon Go, Charmae! I love a director who works hard and cares. This is awesome! (NT) -- No name, 07:55:10 02/03/22 Thu The directors that care have left... that's the ones that really care about what could happen to the girl wearing their local crown. (NT) -- No name, 16:17:26 02/03/22 Thu The vets aren't ready for prime time and the repeaters need guidance, so the new girls are there for a reason. If this is the lineup, Lynsey Stonebraker and Mozie van Raaig were placed last and those are the girls Charmae favors. (NT) -- No name, 21:59:07 02/04/22 Fri Not the order by Steve Stanley’s pics. The pics have their number in this order: Emily F, Lynsey, Madison, Ivy, Imani, Marina, Olivia J, Mozie, Olivia K, Trisha, Emily L, Brittney, Emily O, Olivia M, Desi. Victoria, no #18. Based on that I can’t see anyone after 12 being crowned. By looking at the pics some girls weren’t there and of those who were some look lost. ⅓ in Miss are overweight and I don’t see them crowning 3 big girls, maybe 1. VKM is close with 2 Miss candidates and the MC can help make their favorites look better and others worse. I don’t know if she would though. I also notice from his pics only 5 teens now so only 1 crown will be given for them. Steven should let Charmae crown 5 Miss girls. He needs the ad sales for MO. (NT) -- No name, 17:20:03 02/07/22 Mon

Subject: Who's competing at Miss North Coast this Saturday night???
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:25:53 01/17/22 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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8 Miss. 3 teen. Can't find anything else online. (NT) -- No name, 12:56:19 01/18/22 Tue If they don't care enough to post contestants, why should we care who they are? It's like it's a private pageant. Ohio locals have been doing this for years. It's their private hobby funded by the girls. (NT) -- No name, 17:36:47 01/20/22 Thu Contestants were 1) Brittney Herman 2) Olivia (Via) Kentner 3) Mozie Ann van Raaij 4) Madison Miller 5) Olivia Murray 6) Emily Fields 7) Lynsey Stonebraker 8) Caitlin Seifert (NT) -- No name, 08:37:58 01/23/22 Sun Miss North Coast - Caitlin Seifert 1st runner up - Olivia (Via) Kentner 2nd runner up - Madison Miller Non finalist talent winner - Emily Fields (NT) -- No name, 10:22:13 01/23/22 Sun Congratulations to Caitlin! (NT) -- No name, 21:40:35 01/24/22 Mon

Subject: Since our “precious” Lora did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING at Miss America, will she fall off the face of the title or actually work to have more than 6 contestants at Miss Ohio?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:50:54 12/21/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Here's their winning formula-- they buy their way around preliminary scoring with PC to automatically get into the T10. In other words, it doesn't matter if a girl's talent is a 3, she threw up during her SII, and said she hates puppies in OSQ- PC gets her into T10, scores be damned. Skeevie Stevie's MAO buddies then use comps, 40% of the finals score, to keep certain girls out of the T5 and ensure others are in. iow Comps determines T5. That along with the rule that girls can't score under a 6 in anything on finals night will get her into T5, then it's just a 'vote of the heart' final ballot to crowning. See? It's all illegitimately 'legit'. (NT) -- No name, 12:04:58 12/29/21 Wed EXACTLY!!! this is what happens!!! if you believe in a true scoring system you are a fool. those who think the scoring is so pure is sorely mistaken. I just don't understand why those still participating want to subject themselves to this backhanded, fake program. I don't get it. (NT) -- No name, 13:05:28 12/29/21 Wed Thank you! This has been going on since "skeevie Stevie" (and thanks for that name, it's perfect!} has been in charge. There was score juggling going on back as far as he's been involved . A girl who was competing one year was a runaway favorite to win (placed T5 the previous year) but didn't make T5 even though her performance was stronger than the previous year & she won prelim awards. The "questionable" scoring should have easily placed her in T5 let alone win, He kept her out of T5 to avoid risk of her winning by final ballot over his pick . I know that several board members questioned the results with MAO. Skeevie was never even questioned. He had a shredder under his scoring table! That's when I walked away as a volunteer & a mentor. He's slime. (NT) -- No name, 09:25:22 12/30/21 Thu Stevie's infamous shredder!! (NT) -- No name, 17:37:50 12/30/21 Thu Interesting perspective offered by someone that sounds as if they gave a LOT of time and every to MOSP. I guess the million dollar question…WHY, if several board members have questioned results, do THEY stick around??? It’s clear that the national leadership supports him and his ‘actions’, but what keeps others around? Why would anyone wish to support the program under his leadership??? (NT) -- No name, 12:02:14 12/30/21 Thu They like to play pageant! They're not quitting their 20+ year hobby!! It doesn't really matter to them who's crowned because, say it with me, "No matter who wins, or if it's fair, it doesn't affect them." Oliveri, the Board of Directors, and the Local EDs don't want to give up their perks, power, and 'prestige', no matter how unimpressive those are to others. They get to go to MA every year with the gang and have a homecoming with their MAO buddies- no matter if they haven't increased the scholarship in 30 years, or a girl uses a pageant sponsor for her own interests, or if all the girls realize at the same moment, on the Miss Ohio stage, that they've been duped-- It. Doesn't. Affect. Them. (NT) -- and the girls are doing the fundraising, 19:24:16 12/30/21 Thu Any local director still involved is complicit. They had an opportunity to do something “for the girls” and they essentially spit in their faces because of their own selfish desires. A lot of respect lost for anyone still supporting this mess. When you know better you do better, right? Not in Ohio. (NT) -- No name, 16:09:15 12/31/21 Fri It’s just such a sad state of affairs. I don’t understand how local EDs can continue to pretend that there is a fair and level-playing field at the state (not to mention, national) levels. That regardless of how ‘outstanding’ or talented one may be, that it doesn’t matter if Steven doesn’t like you. Zero respect for any of them…what was once a group of individuals that I sought their respect and praise, is now a group that I would not support at ANY level. (NT) -- No name, 12:54:45 01/05/22 Wed

Subject: When do you think our state will become ‘pay-to-play’ or ‘Open’? Appointed titles to purchase to fill the stage for state?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:22:45 12/26/21 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I think the appointed, open titles make more sense for a lot of contestants. Nor everyone has the ability to get on the “local bus” and compete all season long. It would be more cost effective and possibly bring in more girls. As a competitor, I hate systems that require prelims. I’m not against competing for my title but being REQUIRED to compete for a shitty local sash, very little scholarship earnings, no prize package, and no state or national competition prep is a whole different thing. Feeling you have “earned” your place is great, but it doesn’t mean much in this program under these circumstances. Go appointed. (NT) -- No name, 01:35:25 12/27/21 Mon The problem isn't that Ohio is going to be an open state. The problem is that Ohio is the 7th largest state in the country, and can't muster 20 contestants for a long-established program. Covid or not, the board has run the program into the ground. (NT) -- No name, 18:26:55 12/27/21 Mon To think that our state was once considered a true ‘sash state’ with 30+ locals annually…and a limit of 3 x year per girl…WOW… (NT) -- No name, 00:17:21 12/28/21 Tue

Subject: New Board / Directors?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:50:52 12/18/21 Sat Now that the national pageant (sorry, COMPETITION) is over, do you think they'll keep Steven and company in charge? The other two groups that applied for the franchise a few years ago have all moved on. One group runs Volunteer and the other split up (and some moved out of Ohio). What do you think will happen? Who should run the state, if not Steven and company? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Shantel isn’t kicking Steven out so unless she goes he’s staying (NT) -- No name, 19:00:44 12/18/21 Sat Miss Northwestern Ohio Is no longer a prelim at all. Same with Oxford /Talawanda. Miami Valley/Montogomery County still TBD, Capital City/Franklin County also still TBD (assuming those aren’t happening.) Shawnee/Portsmouth is scheduled but have not heard of anyone registered and no real social media about it. (Wonder what’s happening there.) So far there are 4 preliminary winners. Not counting Shawnee/Portsmouth because who knows if that is a go, only Miss North Coast Greater Cleveland with 3 crowns (Greater Cleveland, Northern Ohio and Spirit of Ohio) are left plus sweeps. Without sweeps that’s only 8 titleholders and that’s if there’s enough signed up for Greater Cleveland. Can they/should they even hold a Miss Ohio with so few candidates? (NT) -- No name, 19:20:53 12/18/21 Sat After 2 years of assurances from Shantel that,"We've got it all under control," "We'll be on broadcast TV," MA was a shit show. The production was as amateur as a local. I would be disappointed if I hadn't decided the 100th would be my last. The handling of the Covid exposure was irresponsible. Shantel’s lucky the Miss A’s said yes on Tuesday, after losing all the judges and hosts Sunday night. They never announced how the girls were scored for prelims or finals by the t h r e e judges. (NT) -- No name, 19:44:04 12/18/21 Sat I've realize there are many states like Ohio. State EDs who are in it for themselves aren't going anywhere. They aren’t going to give up their ‘power’ at state and who else is going to kiss their ass like a girl wanting to win a pageant? They're not giving up their fancy vacation to Miss America every year because of shit leadership! IT DOESN'T AFFECT THEM! No matter who's crowned, no matter if it's fair, no matter if they haven't raised their scholarship in 30 years-- the leadership ALWAYS gets to go party at Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 19:47:03 12/18/21 Sat And the Ohio local directors are to Steven as the states are to Shantel. They aren’t going anywhere. It doesn’t matter who wins state, it doesn’t matter if it's fair, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THEM! They’ll say they’re “doing it for the girls” and “scholarships” to justify their continued support of MO/Steven. They aren’t going to give up their pageantry hobby just because the state is sketchy. It’s no skin off their ass. (NT) -- No name, 19:55:25 12/18/21 Sat So they can have it! They can have choosing judges who are MA friends. They can have sponsors sponsoring a contestant personally. They can have all their appearances of impropriety but no appearances for MO. They can have VMK style Miss Ohio. They can have fundraising off the backs of the girls’ parents. They can have a girl touting her non-profit that someone else runs. They can take money to put a girl directly in the T10 so her prelim scores won’t matter. They can choose favorites. They can rig it. (NT) -- ..., 20:17:41 12/18/21 Sat Then Miss America can overlook it all! Doesn’t affect them! They can expose them to a deadly disease. They can stupidly litigate over and over. They can have a pageant where they don’t tell the girls how they’ll be judged. They can have their pitiful, amateur national pageant using a HS level production team. They can have the egotistical, insecure, incompetent Shantel. They can have it. They can have it all. (NT) -- No name, 20:18:53 12/18/21 Sat Who's they? Shantel Krebs, the Miss America Board of Directors, the MA staff, Steven Oliveri, the Miss Ohio Board of Directors and any girl who's willing to accept it all. (NT) -- No name, 20:26:10 12/18/21 Sat Said it before and will say it again….NOTHING changes unless there’s a complete changing of the guard at the state board level AND national level. OH has most control over their state…and if people protest and refuse to participate, attention will be paid and possible change may take place. Otherwise, everyone can complain as loudly as they want, but NOTHING WILL CHANGE. (NT) -- No name, 21:03:36 12/18/21 Sat

Subject: Lora's Walk-On EG
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:50:31 12/13/21 Mon Well, they got the dress right! I thought she looked fantastic! These aren't the greatest pics- they don't do it justice. I thought the white was nice, but this really popped. Reminded me of a Cardinal. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Yes! FINALLY Ohio got it right with this dress! Now if they could just have an English teacher check her social media posts. Lora: In order to use a ";" (semicolon) to connect two sentences together, both sentences must be independent, meaning they can stand alone. (And to show they are tightly connected.) Otherwise, just use a period. If your platform is literacy, your grammar (especially punctuation) scares me. (NT) -- No name, 08:31:09 12/14/21 Tue This gown is almost a spit image of Mississippi’s evening gown. Cannot recall if MS has a train, but the color and design are almost identical. (NT) -- No name, 20:18:31 12/14/21 Tue

Subject: WHO DOES HER HAIR?!?! It’s HIDEOUS!! Gray and blonde for MA?!?!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:36:32 12/07/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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You old bats have no idea what is in style lol (NT) -- No name, 17:12:57 12/08/21 Wed Dear Lawrd! You little whippersnappers have no idea she's near the spitting image of Susan Perkins! Why in the world would she not take advantage of it. (NT) -- I don't care if it's in style, if it is less attractive than just blond., 22:14:12 12/08/21 Wed She looks modern and not out of the 70s. Susan Perkins looked perfect for her time and Lora looks perfect for hers. Look at her pics from today. Her hair looks great! Can’t we support Lora, our Miss Ohio this week? (NT) -- No name, 21:25:09 12/09/21 Thu It's the 100th, which means a look back at other MA's. No one's suggesting she take on a 70's look, but that Miss Ohio quite resembles, as in her face shape, smile, eye color and shape, eyebrows, (former) hair color, and that perkiness, a former MA from Ohio. That's a natural branding opportunity, not an act of "not supporting her". (NT) -- Is there anything that can be said about her that you aren't sensitive about??, 12:08:20 12/10/21 Fri This photo looks nothing like her. Her make up and hair are horrendous. her styling is completely off... she's out of her league at Miss America (NT) -- No name, 09:06:09 12/10/21 Fri Yup. Her styling is a hot mess. Vicky King has 'styled' her in her own 90's image-- the Senator's wife with the red jacket, matchy-matchy red heels, RED lipstick, and a flag pin! That's a time traveler there, alright. And then the polar opposite of a black cocktail dress with a lace skirt and a ruffled top with it? (NT) -- The other girls look like modern young college women dressed for traveling, not a campaign rally, 13:07:19 12/10/21 Fri She looked far more attractive in the pic below…they should have left her hair well enough alone… (NT) -- No name, 16:52:58 12/10/21 Fri BECAUSE IT WAS PHOTOSHOPPED!! AND the photographer did her make up and hair!!! she doesn't know how to do hair and make up. (NT) -- No name, 08:30:23 12/13/21 Mon

Subject: Oh honey, you don’t get it. It’s not just the bag that gives it away. The truly wealthy have everything- a Tiffany diamond, a Rolex/ JLC/ Patek Philippe, Yurman, Chanel, Armani, a Benz, and a botoxed, filled face to go with it all.
Author: If you have to 'afford' it, you really can't afford it. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:42:13 12/01/21 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Not everyone wants all of those things. It’s weird to speculate on a girl’s or more likely her family’s finances. Lots of those dresses cost thousands. Less that ten for most but still more than a thousand. I’m not saying s as bad is real or not because Idk. I’m just saying there’s lots of ways it could be that you aren’t considering including as a gift from someone. Why is that even an issue? Who cares? (NT) -- No name, 12:07:43 12/02/21 Thu Not weird-- You carried a handbag which retails for ~$3,000, which, do I really need to say this, brings on speculation of whether it's real. Even with the out that maybe knock-offs are nbd, you claimed you own a dress between $3- $10,000 & therefore can 'afford other nice things'. Someone points out your naiveté, where rich people don't have just one luxury item but it's their lifestyle, and you double down again. The issue is you don’t seem to grasp we aren’t stupid. If this is a friend, they aren’t doing you any favors. Arguing over and over again that it ‘might’ be real makes you look worse each time. (NT) -- Own it. Nobody expects a small-town 21yo to own an LV. Be yourself; don’t pretend to be someone you’re not, 18:56:44 12/07/21 Tue

Subject: Miss Ohio Volunteer Class of 2021:
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:33:51 11/13/21 Sat Miss Ohio Volunteer Class of 2021: #1 Elena-Jean Yemma, Miss Mahoning Valley Volunteer #2 Katiana Carmon, Miss Marion Volunteer #3 Amanda Freel, Miss Logan County Volunteer #4 Ava Barnes, Miss Southwest Volunteer #5 Ava Marguerite Moore, Miss Buckeye Volunteer #6 Jaeleen Davis, Miss Northeastern Ohio Volunteer Streaming for only $20! http://pageantvision.com/?fbclid=IwAR3Ya7qwkeV7eOh_VsKGOPe1NuxcOXd2X3oZZoDykntXIPuh7SwQ4bzvIzQ or tickets at the door- $20. Starts at 7pm. Veterans Memorial Civic and Convention Center of Lima/Allen County [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Congratulations to Jaeleen Davis, the inaugural Miss Ohio Volunteer! It was her night!!! She walked away with $7,000 CASH scholarships and a boatload of prep services-- training, tanning, photography... Ava as 1RU won $3,500 in CASH scholarships! Plus every contestant got a $250 scholarship! (NT) -- Jaeleen won talent, Comm Srvc & Congeniality. Ava won SS., 10:39:30 11/14/21 Sun Congratulations to all!!!! Way to be trailblazers!!! (NT) -- No name, 19:39:14 11/15/21 Mon

Subject: Wishing all the ladies completing in OH Volunteer the best of luck next weekend. May they have a fulfilling and HONEST competition experience…one that will leave them refreshed and with a renewed sense of hope that there are good programs still out there…
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:18:04 11/07/21 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Amen! (NT) -- No name, 23:05:53 11/07/21 Sun All 6 of them. You read that right, 6 contestants for Miss Ohio Volunteer. Elena Yemma, Amanda Freel, Jaeleen Davis, Ava Moore, Ava Barnes and Katiana Carmon (NT) -- No name, 15:28:22 11/08/21 Mon Yes, for a BRAND NEW program with no history, vs the MOSP with a rich history and declining numbers. Miss Ohio Volunteer should be proud of what they're doing! (NT) -- No name, 15:58:33 11/08/21 Mon The ED, Veronica Wende Hawke, had other things on her mind, like making another human :-) She just had her first child this summer. Babies come & priorities change. (NT) -- They are awarding their winner $5,000; 1RU $1,000. Not shabby at all!, 21:54:44 11/08/21 Mon 6 that chose to NOT participate in Miss Ohio. Remember the NONE of the top 10 from Miss Ohio are returning to Miss Ohio. Let that sit for a minute…. (NT) -- No name, 10:15:52 11/09/21 Tue Yes, let that resonate for a moment. No returns from Top 10, and solid candidates entering an alternate program in an inaugural year , that proves to be a solid and strong program!!! (NT) -- No name, 14:51:16 11/09/21 Tue Well, I commend those 6! (NT) -- No name, 15:56:36 11/08/21 Mon I can bet the experience for this 6 will be far more positive than what happened at MO for the 21 (NT) -- No name, 16:16:22 11/08/21 Mon Veronica, Nanciann Strosnider (Moschner), Shannon O’Neill (Wannemacher) and Rosie Westerbeck’s mom Karen have more class and sophistication in their pinkies than the entire MO crew combined. (NT) -- No name, 13:25:28 11/09/21 Tue TOTALLY AGREE!!! (NT) -- No name, 13:31:55 11/09/21 Tue This is a great team!!! And very respectable (NT) -- No name, 19:41:05 11/09/21 Tue Yes, indeed! More integrity, honesty, sophistication, care and hard work than the entire MOSP crew combined. Yes! Very best wishes to this awesome new pageant. Long-overdue! (NT) -- No name, 08:26:49 11/13/21 Sat Smartest girls of them all for leaving MO!!! Good for them!! Best of luck!!! (NT) -- No name, 17:01:37 11/08/21 Mon Yes, I would have to agree with you! Glad to see something challenge the status quo….. (NT) -- No name, 21:09:02 11/08/21 Mon I agree! Finally, an honest pageant. Integrity for all involved here. So happy there's finally a good alternative! (NT) -- No name, 18:51:08 11/09/21 Tue Let's go girls!! (NT) -- No name, 13:42:15 11/11/21 Thu Saw you can livestream as well!! (NT) -- No name, 18:29:14 11/11/21 Thu If you think 6 girls during all this turmoil was bad, look at MO local recruitment this year. Other than Lake Fest (with new girls who only compete there) they've had ZERO new recruits. Zero - zilch - zip. All contestants have competed in Miss Ohio locals/state, or other state pageants. THAT's not a number for sustainability. (NT) -- No name, 17:19:35 11/14/21 Sun Ask the 4 out of 6 girls who completed for VOL that also competed in MAO how their experience was. I spoke to one of them and she said her time there was so much more uplifting, supportive, transparent, positive, etc. than when she competed in MAO. If you ask me, it doesn’t matter how many contestants they had the first year because now that word is out how much better the VOL board treats their girls, this is only the beginning. (NT) -- No name, 18:39:43 11/14/21 Sun

Subject: Miss Maple City Contestants
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:36:04 10/29/21 Fri Entertainment will be provided by Miss Maple City 2020 Madison Miller and Miss Maple City Outstanding Teen 2020 Lucabella LaEace. Judges will be Kayla Rink of Shelby, Dave Schild of Norwalk, Jaime Johnson of Williston, Sophia Fifner of Columbus, Rusty Cates of Mansfield, Kristen White of Frankfort and Matt Miller of Ashland. Judges chair is Karen David of Sandusky and auditors will be Richard Russell of Bellevue and Tom Dunlap of Norwalk. Emcees wil be Miss Maple City 2015 and Miss Ohio 2015 Sarah Hider and Miss Maple City 2018 and Miss Ohio 2018 Matti Chrisman. The Miss contestants are: —Emily Fields, 19, Aurora, Ohio is the daughter of Anne Fields and Michael Gavorski. She attends Kent State University and Tap Dance for Talent. —Brittney Herman, 25, Grove City, Ohio, is the daughter of Allison and Leonard Herman. She is a graduate of Georgetown, Brigham Young and Tenn. Tech and Talent is Flute. —Desi Hunt, 21, Sandusky, Ohio, is the daughter of Valerie and Douglas Hunt. She attends Terra State Community College and Talent is Vocal. —Emily Legenza, 23, Wauseon, Ohio, is the daughter of Margaret and Edward Legenza . She attends Ohio University and Talent is Classical Vocal. —Shelby Leigh, 19, Oak Harbor, Ohio, is the daughter of Kim and Charles Gaeth. She attends Bowling Green State University and Talent is Baton. —Elizabetta Nies, 18, of Cincinnati, Ohio, is the daughter of Kathleen and Eric Nies. She attends Miami University and Talent is Piano. —Caitlin Seifert, 23, of Niles, Ohio, is the daughter of Denise Duer and Bobby Seifert. She attends Kent State University and Talent is Baton Twirling. The Teen Contestants are: —Kylie Gottman 17, of Mansfield, is the daughter of Alicia Bailey and Neil Conn. She attends Lexington High School and Talent is Science Experiment. —Cassandra Mattson, 15, of Columbus, is the daughter of Jennifer and Ryan Mattson. She attends Westland High School in Galloway and Talent is Irish Dance. —Baylee Shoemaker, 17, of Bellville, is the daughter of Erica and Jason Shoemaker.. She attends Clear Fork High School and Talent is Dance. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Brittney Herman, the Georgetown law grad and T12 out of 49 contestants at Utah, is the ringer in this pageant. Predict Elizabetta Nies 1RU. (NT) -- No name, 12:26:45 10/30/21 Sat Likely the outcome…and there you go. Out of state winners for Akron, Maple City, and newbie for Lake…leaving only ONE return winner…and it’s November, with nothing else on the docket until after the 1st of the year. Our state is a sad state of affairs… (NT) -- No name, 14:20:08 10/30/21 Sat Just saw Portsmouth and North Coast are scheduled. Can't believe Regina did this. So disappointed. (NT) -- No name, 14:54:35 10/30/21 Sat Why do you care? If you don’t want to participate then don’t (NT) -- No name, 15:27:38 10/30/21 Sat I care that they are crowning girls they know won't have a chance to be Miss Ohio. (NT) -- It's the lack of integrity- pretending everything's OK. That's what's kept Steven in power., 14:00:19 10/31/21 Sun That makes no sense! One of them has to win MO (NT) -- No name, 20:15:05 10/31/21 Sun Hello... the women at Portsmouth know what's going on. After this year, they without a doubt know how Steven and the board operate. Once a cheat, always a cheat. There is no Miss Ohio competition in reality-- 22 girls thought that this June to realize it can be fixed with enough money. True they will have titleholders to compete, but it means nothing bc they will pick the winner again and USE the rest of the girls to fund the program. I thought Regina would be better than to send girls to MO knowing that. I imagine this means they'll send Miss Portsmouth Days too. (NT) -- This is how Steven & Co keep in power. YOU PARTICIPATE; YOU CONSENT., 14:18:08 11/01/21 Mon Hello? I'm not saying they don't know what is going on. I'm simply saying someone WILL be crowned Miss Ohio. Their title means nothing to YOU. It means something to the girls. Stop judging Regina and the girls and everyone else who has chosen to stay with this pageant system. It's none of your business and I am sure you are far from perfect like the rest of us. If you don't like it and don't think it will improve then why are you here complaining. Move on! (NT) -- No name, 18:21:27 11/01/21 Mon You're defending arguments not made. I acknowledged in my post that someone will be crowned Miss Ohio-- it will Steven and the Board's choice, NOT via a competition, as they are faking. And I most certainly WILL judge everyone that supports this corrupt program of fakes. And it is my business, as it's the entire pageant community's business that MO is rigged. They've destroyed girls' ability to literally compete for MA in Ohio. I don't like liars and cheaters in the program, not the program itself and that's the reason the pageant community is up in arms-- they want a legit competition. (NT) -- No name, 10:20:09 11/04/21 Thu * ... I get it, you want to compete no matter what. You want to be the Queen with the shiny, sparkly crown in the spotlight that everyone pays attention to, so you'll feel special. Well, that also means you want to put money in Ohio's pocket to continue to cheat struggling college girls. You want to support their game of holding a pageant where the winner is already picked. You're willing to play along in duping the girls. You and what you want are more important than the other girls, just like LC. Be better than tha. (NT) -- No name, 13:12:06 11/04/21 Thu I hear you. For those that wish to continue to compete, Volunteer and USA are the options. I don’t think anyone should waste their time and hearts to try and become Miss OH. There is not rigor, honestly, or any good left in the state. Perhaps if the entire board is overturned, there may be a chance. But that’s a BIG IF and WHEN… (NT) -- No name, 22:15:50 11/07/21 Sun Miss Maple City's Outstanding Teen- Baylee Shoemaker; Talent- Elizabetta Nies; 2RU- Caitlin Seifert; 1RU- Brittney Herman; Miss Maple City 2022- Elizabetta Nies (NT) -- Congratulations!, 13:57:56 10/31/21 Sun Brittney did graduate from Georgetown Law!!! -- No name, 10:49:07 11/01/21 Mon Georgetown University- Master of Laws - Taxation; Brigham Young University- Doctor of Law - JD Banking, Corporate, Finance, & Securities Law; Tennessee Technological University- English Language and Literature/Letters (NT) -- via LinkedIn, 14:24:14 11/01/21 Mon

Subject: Clayland Contestants
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:04:14 10/11/21 Mon * Madison Miller, 21, resides in Coshocton. She is a student at Ohio Wesleyan University and will play the piano. Her Social Impact Initiative is United States Veterans Appreciation and Mental Health Awareness. * Autumn Kessler, 24, resides in Kent. She is a graduate of Muskingum University and will tap dance. Her Social Impact Initiative is Bettering Children’s Mental Health. * Caitlin Seifert, 23, resides in Niles. She is a graduate student at Kent State University and will be twirling baton. Her Social Impact Initiative is Volunteerism. * Emma Rose Lewis, 24 lives in Cleveland. She is a vocalist and is a student at Baldwin Wallace University. Her Social Impact Initiative is Sexual Assault Prevention and Supporting Survivors. * Emily Fields, 20, resides in Aurora. She is a Student at Kent State University and is a tap dancer. Her Social Impact Initiative is Invisible Disability Awareness. * Olivia Kentner, 22, is from Wapakoneta. She is a vocalist who attends the University of Cincinnati. Her Social Impact Initiative is Youth Career Exploration and Personal Development. * Elizabetta Nies, 18, resides in Cincinnati. She is a student at Miami University and plays the piano. Her Social Impact Initiative is Living from the Inside Out. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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How is Autumn even competing after she took the pic of the Henri's record saying that Mr. Hempy paid for the dress? (NT) -- No name, 17:37:10 10/11/21 Mon Because, regardless of the thought of having any integrity, she just wants a title at all costs. Shows you who is in this strictly to claim they are Miss Whatever, rather than for the effort of bettering themselves and others. (NT) -- No name, 07:45:19 10/12/21 Tue I know for a fact Autumn didn’t take the pic. Another associate did it. (NT) -- No name, 11:12:09 10/12/21 Tue If you are blasting Autumn let’s focus on the real deceit and who paid for the crown… caught on record of illegal sponsorship and is still representing Ohio!!! So sad (NT) -- No name, 19:47:56 11/07/21 Sun How is Lora Current-Hemphy the reigning Miss Ohio? (NT) -- No name, 17:44:43 10/11/21 Mon Exactly!!! Her send off online invitation isn’t even grammatically correct! She seems to disappoint without others feeding her answers. (NT) -- No name, 19:53:43 11/07/21 Sun I wonder if all the candidates are getting their own sponsors this year to fund and promote them? (NT) -- No name, 18:18:54 10/11/21 Mon Emma Rose Lewis looks so much older than that (NT) -- No name, 18:21:41 10/11/21 Mon Get used to these names people. This is the contestant list for every local this year, minus one each time of course. This is it. This is Ohio. (NT) -- No name, 22:08:38 10/11/21 Mon You could not be more accurate…. (NT) -- No name, 22:22:33 10/11/21 Mon Not true. Coaches are advising girls to do certain locals that do well at MO or give good scholarships. Three of those happen to be in October. After these some girls will be done. No one wants to deal with Lora and by the looks of that party they don’t want to deal with Charmae either. Steven will have to get MA’s blessing to open up the state to at large. Then we will see. (NT) -- No name, 22:40:32 10/11/21 Mon Who are the ‘coaches’ you are referencing? (NT) -- No name, 00:20:05 10/12/21 Tue The only locals that award decent money are Lake Fest, which is closed, and Clayland. Every veteran that doesn't win at Clayland will compete at Maple City. Other than that, there's only Cleveland left. Those locals left that do well at MO are coincidentally Steven's minions- Clayland & Maple City. (NT) -- Nobody's coaching for MO except Vicky King. Madison & Olivia are up her butt, 18:05:01 10/12/21 Tue So…who’s it gonna be from this stellar listing of ‘candidates’??? (NT) -- No name, 22:25:27 10/11/21 Mon Stop it! Just stop it! I’ve never posted before. I just lurk but my daughter is one of these candidates. She’s not a Miss Ohio legacy but she has always wanted to be part of this program since early in high school. She’s a good young woman with morals and a conscience. She’s smart and talented. The way you women spend all your time criticizing those women who want to compete is pathetic. Yes Ohio is a mess now but I still have hope it will get better. I’m sure all of you are great and talented beauties who would win your first preliminary every time as opposed to a bunch of tired Karens with nothing to do but talk bad about all these girls. Focus your anger on Steven and Lora where it belongs. They deserve it. These girls do not. Btw these girls know they can’t trust any of you volunteers because a lot of these posts are made by the volunteers. Mother you are at the top of that list. Get a life and stop posting negative comments about girls who are doing their best. (NT) -- No name, 23:53:33 10/11/21 Mon Who are you referencing as ‘Mother’??? Calm down, BTW. Appreciate your daughters desires to participate for years, but why would you want her to be positioned to play a role in this mess?? Send her to any other program…but NOT Miss OH! (NT) -- No name, 00:22:16 10/12/21 Tue There are a lot of other things you could encourage your daughter to do, rather than support an illegitimate and corrupt program. Obviously you haven't been around this program for very long if you think it will "get better". This has been going on for years and years, and it's only gotten worse. Instead of continuing to support them, you would think that you would realize that the only way to force the corruption out of the program is for everyone to walk away! All you are doing is allowing by competing is allowing them to continue this farce. (NT) -- No name, 07:50:08 10/12/21 Tue Excuse the errors, it's early and still drinking my coffee. (NT) -- No name, 07:51:15 10/12/21 Tue If this is your daughter, you should be ashamed as a parent for encouraging her to compete in the MOSP. The system has made it clear they do not care about your daughter and anyone else’s daughter as well. If you are a parent encouraging your daughter to compete in the organization that depleted young women’s mental health at the cost of an outdated, public embarrassment, and irrelevant title, you need to question your integrity. Don’t you think YOUR daughter is worth more? Do better. (NT) -- No name, 09:25:54 10/12/21 Tue Not encouraging but supporting. If I had it my way there would be no pageants of any kind (NT) -- No name, 17:46:13 10/12/21 Tue I think it’s fair to say, that there are no signals indicating change is on the way. Leadership remains in position, Lora retains the crown, and aside from attempts made to alert MAO of the June mess, the next step has mot been taken. That is two-fold: (1) media engagement/involvement; (2) candidates refusal to compete. Minus girls-minus pageant activity. Until these two occur, it will be more of the same… (NT) -- No name, 12:11:38 10/12/21 Tue There have been 60+ posts from your IP address, many putting down 4 of your daughter's competitors. You don't know who's posting- don't claim to. (NT) -- MOD, 18:38:51 10/12/21 Tue Here’s the thing Moms - you’re putting your daughters in a situation where they have absolutely no chance of winning unless they’re the chosen one for the year, so why would you support that? Why can’t your daughter wait until the corrupt leadership is gone, or compete elsewhere? She has zero chance here. Maybe she’s betting on her shot of being the chosen one? Maybe she doesn’t mind that she’s disrespecting every single girl who was cheated in June? Maybe she thinks since no one is left, she has a better shot? If you as her mom thinks this will be a fair competition, I hate to break it to you. It is not and will never be until changes are made, and even then, the National org is just as bad. It’s not worth the time, energy, money, heart, and everything else it takes to be successful here. Ask around - this is not a reputable program for your daughter to represent. (NT) -- No name, 11:26:05 10/12/21 Tue In our case my daughter would do it whether I supported it or not. She’s the type of girl that lets nothing st& in her way. USA has many things she (& I) don’t like. Volunteer is too new, I don’t like their scoring & I don’t like how the director stalks people online. The rest are a bunch of rinky dink money makers that won’t help you in life. Being part of MA still carries weight. Either way I st& by saying that you need to leave these girls alone. She isn’t disrespecting anyone by competing. Everyone can make their own choices & she supports whatever the other girls choose to do. She can’t wait until leadership is replaced because who knows how long that will take & she will age out. So if you want to bash the program, Steven, Jeff, Lora, the board, the volunteers, the local EDs, all fine.BUT DON’T BASH THE GIRLS COMPETING! They’re young women wIth feelings & no one seems to care about that. Even if they are not on here themselves it gets back to them. Grow up! (NT) -- No name, 17:27:32 10/12/21 Tue There have been 60+ posts from your IP address, many putting down 4 of your daughter's competitors. You don't know who's posting. (NT) -- MOD, 18:41:15 10/12/21 Tue Well that is fascinating because due to my husband's work we have a VPN so my IP address isn't what is shown. It isn't the same every time. (NT) -- No name, 18:51:58 10/12/21 Tue NT) -- Do not respond to you own posts - it looks like several posters responded, 14:02:52 10/13/21 Wed Looks like the hubby didn't add you on the work VPN. (NT) -- are these your daughter's posts too?, 16:08:55 10/13/21 Wed OK Allie (NT) -- No name, 18:53:26 10/12/21 Tue This person was an idiot for doing this stunt, and I hope that she explains to her daughter how much the well was poisoned by this for her. Not only did she insult almost all the other competitors she was dumb enough to insult the State ED and the exquisite Hempy Highness. Not smart. (NT) -- No name, 22:56:21 10/15/21 Fri Who is Allie? Also, how would anyone know who wrote all these posts? I agree it’s weird but that’s not the point. I’m not a computer person in any way but I looked up that IP address on 3 sites to see the location. One said Lexington, KY, one said Elyria, OH and one said Newark, Ohio. (So much for narrowing down even an area.) I then looked up the IP address I was on just to see if it even sort of gave me an idea. One said Wichita, KS, one said Secaucus, NJ and the other said it was a VPN address. The last one is possible since I was waiting for my hair to process at the salon and on their WiFi. I definitely was not in NJ or KS so I don’t think without having some computer genius or law enforcement look for it we could know but nothing was a crime so that’s not happening. (NT) -- No name, 15:13:28 10/19/21 Tue Since you’re “not a computer person in any way”, maybe this will help. IPs are not static on cell phones. Your service will connect you to whatever network they have available, which can be all over the country, so it's completely normal an IP on a cell shows up in locations it is not. #2 Seeing some odd locations for 174.30.77.87 is prob bc you’re using crappy locator engine or don’t know how to interpret the info. Legit IP locators put this IP in Aurora, Ohio. (NT) -- No name, 14:50:28 10/20/21 Wed (continued) I mean I guess process of elimination? Girls mentioned: Emma, Elizabetta, Emily and Autumn so I guess they’d be ruled out. That leaves Caitlin, Madison and Olivia or their parents. If I had to pick one of the three I could guess but what’s the point? No one actually knows. Could also be one of their siblings or friends, an ED, volunteer, former contestant, board member, MO fan, who knows? Point is I don’t know how anything could be ruined for a contestant when we have no clue who it is. Heck people on here blame Renee for all kinds of posts that I don’t think she has anything to do with. Nothing on this board is life or death so we all need to relax sometimes and not be so serious. (NT) -- No name, 15:15:37 10/19/21 Tue All these messages were sent from the same IP address/household and your theory is an ED, Volunteer, former contestant, board member, MO fan, or ‘who knows’ drove to this IPs household in Aurora, Ohio just past midnight on Sat Sept 18th, again on Mon Sept 27th, also Mon Oct 11th at dinnertime then again at midnight, over 60 times, and broke into this IPs modem so they could send posts bad mouthing contestants. Uh huh. (NT) -- No name, 14:39:44 10/20/21 Wed “I’ve never posted here before; I just lurk.” This could be true and she didn’t know her contestant daughter was the “tired Karen with nothing better to do than talk bad about all the girls.” (NT) -- how embarassing, 20:17:00 10/20/21 Wed They've also posted a thread, then answered their own question, several times. That’s a no-no on Voy. Double posting makes it appear like several others hold the same opinion, rather than it’s one person populating the conversation. (NT) -- No name, 20:18:04 10/20/21 Wed* Boy that one is trying to deflect and deny desparately. Everybody knows the truth here, but we are being nice so far. Don't push it or names will be named. (NT) -- No name, 17:56:47 10/21/21 Thu Elizabetta Nies- Talent winner, Olivia Kentner- 1RU, Emily Fields, Emma Lewis- Miss Clayland 2022, Caitlin Seifert, Autumn Kessler- Community Service winner, Madison Miller. (NT) -- No name, 16:16:18 10/19/21 Tue

Subject: That’s a lie!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:01:42 11/03/21 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Dear, go look at her trash fest. It's the first thing she posted after the stolen, 'could be anywhere' IPs. She admitted as much. (NT) -- try again, 22:55:35 11/03/21 Wed

Subject: Heard something interesting from someone very involved in MO. Two girls competing in prelims have family connections to MO. One has a mom that competed (not GB obviously) and the girl it wasn't the mom but an aunt or godmother or something. Anyone know which girls?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:51:21 10/11/21 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Elizabetta Nies is the daughter of Kathleen Farrell Nies. She was Miss Illinois 1992 (NT) -- No name, 18:56:45 10/11/21 Mon (NT) -- No name, 19:05:50 10/11/21 Mon What a pageant family dynasty! Her mother, Kathleen Farrell won NFT at MA. Her aunt was Miss New York 1984, Mary-Ann Farrell and another aunt Monica Farrell was Miss Florida 1985! Kathleen also went on to win Miss Illinois USA 1994! (NT) -- She's only 18 and just gettting her feet wet., 19:25:43 10/11/21 Mon Is one of Kelly Creager’s daughters going to complete in OH? Believe she was pictured in one of the Greater Cleveland pics on Facebook? (NT) -- No name, 19:03:41 10/11/21 Mon Kelly Creager's daughter Emily Gillson is a Freshman in HS and Vicky King commented on her FB page. (NT) -- No name, 19:39:30 10/11/21 Mon Stefani Schaefer's mom was with Emily Fields twice now, maybe her? (NT) -- No name, 19:18:40 10/11/21 Mon A quick scan of Stefani's fb and you will see quite a few posts that include Emily's mom referring to her as her sister from God. I'm guessing Emily is the one of the ones mentioned (NT) -- No name, 20:34:26 10/11/21 Mon

Subject: How to post links and photos
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:47:31 08/19/21 Thu Below you will find the codes to post links and pics on Voy: PREVIEW your post to make sure the link works or you see the picture. If you don't, something's wrong in your code. One space, period, missing character and it won't work. Note There must be a space between A & href and img & src. Also, you can make the photo bigger or smaller by changing the number after height. PREVIEW it to make sure it's the right size. Please don't post photos bigger than about 500- 550. How to post a photo that's not online, like screen shots or personal photos: Photos need to 'live' somewhere online so the code can direct you to the pic. Postimages.org is free. You can drag and drop the photo into the "Choose Images" box. It will give you 8 options for different uses. Use the second option: DIRECT LINK. Copy it in its entirety and insert in between the parentheses that say "insert photo link here". [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Subject: Did anyone else receive the email from MAO asking for donations to help fund the $50,000 Miss America scholarship? If that doesn’t tell you that this program is done, I don’t know what else you need to hear! Walk away girls. Find something more productive to better yourselves. You are wasting your time and money.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:45:41 10/05/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It was the most pitiful ploy to try and secure scholarship money I have ever seen! They were basically BEGGING for money!!! The writing is on the wall….MAO is over! No thanks to states like OH, further complicating their troubles, by bringing negative attention to the system. Who really wants to align themselves with corruption….whether an HONEST sponsor or candidate, it’s time to walk away. (NT) -- No name, 00:09:45 10/06/21 Wed WOW... just WOW. I also heard the program was taken from PrimeTime TV so to watch it you have to pay to stream. I think it's past the point of any kind of relevancy It's OVER people (NT) -- No name, 15:06:42 10/06/21 Wed I heard that NBC dropped them….however there’s still chatter about Peacock picking up for streaming. Has anyone heard officially. It’s like the train wreck I have to watch, so I will…but would hate to give them one more ‘donation’ for livestream….. (NT) -- No name, 17:07:31 10/06/21 Wed Shantel has been playing with the television wording- I would bet $1,000 it won't be on network TV. It won't even make it on to cable! (NT) -- Peacock is free streaming except for some sports events., 17:54:44 10/06/21 Wed

Subject: Congratulations Miss Akron-Canton 2022- Madelanah McFarland
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:35:31 10/02/21 Sat Miss Akron-Canton results: MACAttack- Madelanah McFarland Interview- Madelanah McFarland Talent- Emma Rose 1RU- Emma Rose Lewis Miss Akron-Canton 2022- Madelanah McFarland [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Judges were Tanzeah Sharpe, Becky Wolfe, Michelle Denny, Bob Peshek and Dr Lisa Ford. (NT) -- No name, 21:39:35 10/02/21 Sat Emma Lewis, Emily Fields, Madelanah McFarland, Emily Legenza, Caitlin Seifert, Alexis Miller (NT) -- No name, 12:40:16 10/03/21 Sun (NT) -- No name, 12:43:30 10/03/21 Sun

Subject: Miss Ohio preliminary directors: How can you even hold your pageants knowing exactly what happened this year. Shame on you. How can you support any young woman in this program given the disrespect show to everyone involved. Please explain
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:11:22 09/18/21 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Cowards. I am pretty sure they are ALL scammers at this point. Every one of them knows exactly what is happening behind the scenes. They are a huge part of the problem now (NT) -- No name, 08:43:12 09/21/21 Tue Those that enable are as guilty as the one committing the crime. Quite frankly, they should all ban together and abstain from holding ANY locals this season until the leadership/board members are overturned. NOTHING ELSE will grab any attention. (NT) -- No name, 23:19:31 09/21/21 Tue These local directors are even more prostituted to Stevie than their Queen is to Mr. Hempy Water. Then again sleeping around in this system pays off. Ask Lora. (NT) -- No name, 13:05:28 09/22/21 Wed Agreed! RD’s, WHY and/or WHAT makes you desirous to support thre program? Why would you want to build the hopes of ‘your girl’ at states, when you know that the program is not ethical? Are you in ‘la la land’ to think that anything will be different this time around? With the same leaders in place, there are no signs of change ahead! I can’t believe that you participated in the summer ‘meeting’ where Stevie’ was questioned about his role and prior knowledge about Hempy ….did you forget? Did you forget the ladies and their hearts that were broken?? WHY would you create capacity for this nonsense to continue. You are the heart and soul of the program….and have the POWER to refuse support. Believe me..you will not disappoint the candidates by not offering a title….you will disappoint a candidate by putting them in hams way…. (NT) -- No name, 23:34:55 09/22/21 Wed How can they live with themselves, knowing what a travesty this pageant has become? (NT) -- No name, 12:14:47 09/23/21 Thu The locals can step away a year. They don't have to 'quit' forever and give up their hobby. Without their support, Ohio collapses. And I'm sure whoever takes over (you gotta clean house) would welcome them back. (NT) -- No name, 18:05:47 09/23/21 Thu Excellent point! (NT) -- No name, 08:05:06 09/24/21 Fri Sadly, this is the only "social life" or positive thing some ED's have going for them. There is nothing else for them to do. This makes them feel good to have a "family" or some sort - no matter how dysfunctional. Therefore, some of these ED's will not step back even though they know it's wrong to continue doing this beauty pageant business. (NT) -- No name, 09:54:22 09/24/21 Fri In 2015 their excuse was "they're doing it for the girls", as if it didn't matter that the CEO of MA fixed the Ohio license for Steven. It burns me up these WOMEN would send a girl to Miss Ohio knowing it's rigged. (NT) -- No name, 13:38:21 09/24/21 Fri Lakefest ED Kirsten (Fennig) Schmitz and the Akron-Canton ED Allie (Krucek) Hoffman were both former contestants. They should be doubly ashamed for sending girls to Steven to cheat out of their dream. Katie Camp knows Steven's shit. Big props to her for not committing to a date. (NT) -- No name, 15:03:37 09/24/21 Fri So can anybody define for us what good playing ball with the Miss Ohio pageant produces anymore. (NT) -- No name, 19:59:50 09/29/21 Wed 'Playing ball' with the MOBoD makes all of us complicit. Covering up, glossing over, and/or ignoring their BS has kept them in power. After 2015, did those outside of Team Steven really believe how MO was run would get better?! Shantel and MA are completely ignoring the dozens of complaints, so they are co-conspirators. This is a dirty, dirty organization and anyone who associates with them is eventually sullied. (NT) -- All your doing is funding Steven & Co's partying at MA. No matter who is MO, the BoD always goes to MA, 14:24:35 09/30/21 Thu Note to Local Directors- The official Miss Ohio sponsor, Jeff Knedler owner of Hempy Water stood on stage in front of all the candidates during Miss Ohio week rehearsal and stated to Steven Oliveri, “Remember, I have an open checkbook for Miss Ohio”. Lora was the one and only candidate he endorsed and supported financially. Yes, I did say he stood on stage, as he was permitted access to areas and to the candidates that not even the local directors were allowed due to the pandemic. Also, none of the Top 10 are returning this year, NONE. Please read the above again and truly think about taking a year off and not holding a local this year. If you believe in Miss America, then shouldn’t you stand with these young women? You are part of the MAO, whose mission is “To prepare great women for the world and prepare the world for great women.” Lead by example and show them how great women can take a stand for what is right and just. (NT) -- No name, 16:07:32 09/30/21 Thu 100% - grow some balls and follow through (NT) -- No name, 16:26:14 09/30/21 Thu Miss Ohio allowed a sponsor on stage access to rehearsals? (NT) -- can anyone confirm they heard Hempy say that?, 17:40:26 09/30/21 Thu Confirmed by a contestant, yes. (NT) -- No name, 18:12:23 09/30/21 Thu All the contestants can attest to this. if this doesn't convince you there's wrong-doings going on then you are a fool for not seeing this (NT) -- No name, 19:53:01 09/30/21 Thu So, to clarify, were others- like parents and EDs afforded this access as well? Were other sponsors? Was it just one time? Was he there for 15 mins or hours? Was he hanging out all week? Did he join the contestants or board/volunteers for dinner at any point? I wonder what else went on right in front of everyone's face that we don't know about yet? Maybe they weren't noticed at the time, but with reflection on what we know now, there's something off. (NT) -- No name, 20:27:25 09/30/21 Thu Jeff Knedler was on a judging panel for some of the scholarships awarded during Miss Ohio. So, yes he was around. (NT) -- No name, 21:03:35 09/30/21 Thu It doesn’t seem appropriate to have any of the sponsors, much less the one in question, be able to be present during any of the pageant activities that are not for the public. Why would he need to be there?? What does that comment even mean? Who gave him control? (NT) -- No name, 22:15:59 09/30/21 Thu

Subject: Akron/Canton- 3 contestants after 2 years is a sign girls are not interested anymore
Author: Hold an essay contest to award any accumulated scholarship money & close it down [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:01:39 09/06/21 Mon It looks like how Miss Ohio was run this year is affecting local recruiting. Akron/Canton had 8 contestants last time, 9 in 2019, & 10 in 2018. Great numbers for Ohio, especially for a closed local. The contestants are usually one-timers, rather than go on to compete in other locals, so new recruits have never been a problem. But it's been 2 years and they could only recruit 4 contestants. Now that one has dropped out they made it an open, so obviously they have tapped out their local girls if they couldn't get one more. Veterans Danielle Vivcharenko and Hayley Holt have both announced they aren't returning. I haven't heard anything about Caitlin Seifert. I get they've probably paid a non-refundable deposit and have scholarship money but if it was easy to take a stand, they wouldn't call it leadership. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It’s actually running. Six candidates: Madelanah Zofia McFarland, Emma Rose Lewis, Caitlin Seifert, Emily Legenza, Emily Fields, and Alexis Miller. (NT) -- No name, 21:29:12 09/14/21 Tue I thought Emma Rose was one of the candidates that also came forward in a public way about the Jeff/Lora dress purchase??? Don’t understand why any of those girls that participated last year, falling victim to the cheating, would even want to come within 100ft of ANY local or state again?! (NT) -- No name, 16:28:25 09/18/21 Sat

Subject: Clayland
Author: they couldn't take the year off... smh [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:26:26 09/18/21 Sat Clayland has extended their deadline. Clayland! Clayland can't get 4 contestants. This program is dead. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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That is unbelievable! Clayland has been an institution in Miss Ohio FOREVER, and only the best of the best have secured that title. To think that they can’t even rally enough with the scholarships they award just speaks volumes!!! I was hoping that Martha would have finally had enough to walk away. She has unbelievable volunteers and such a special program. I’m sure it would be hard for her let go, but considering all of the time, money, and resources her community popes into a defunct system, this would have been the year to let go….. (NT) -- No name, 10:16:50 09/18/21 Sat Clayland extended to (I think) this coming Monday a bit ago. I think they will have enough because they give out big scholarship money. Also, Miss Ohio isn’t over. Worst case scenario which I believe will happen is that they go back to having at large queens. That was done in the not so distant past before. Also whoever said North Coast was canceled due to registration is wrong. Janice broke her leg & is in rehab. (NT) -- No name, 11:04:16 09/18/21 Sat

Subject: OHIO IS A DISASTER
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:37:49 09/03/21 Fri Miss Akron Canton (the next local of the season and the second member of the 2022 class to be crowned) just had to make themselves an open competition and extended their deadline. They have ALWAYS been closed, this is dreadful. This means they most likely don’t even have enough to crown ONE girl. At what point is Ohio or MAO going to step up and acknowledge what is happening? We haven’t run an actual Miss Ohio level prelim this season. The one scheduled before this had to cancel due to lack of sign ups. While Covid definitely plays a part, what happened at state with Lora has done irreparable damage to the program. The board and Steven have gone TOO FAR this time. The worst part of it all is that everyone is acting like everything is fine and that nothing is wrong at all. They’re all ignoring the big 4H horse in the room. But it’s there, it’s real, and it’s awful. It’s hurting the girls, the locals, and the program. FIX IT. Steven and the board need to go. Lora Current should be known as the woman that poisoned the lineage of Miss Ohio. She is an adult should take responsibility for this cheating disgrace and apologize to the class of 2020. How are we supposed to recruit women into the Ohio program when she sets the precedent for what the state titleholder should be? Cheaters never win and while she might have a title, nobody truly respects her. She has buzz like a reality tv show, let’s see what happens next. However, the newbies don’t want to come now & many of the vets are done with it. Most of the teens that could’ve moved up have moved to different programs. Leaving us with only six girls (by my calculations/they’ve hinted at coming back) we’ve seen in prior seasons. That means there’s going to be potentially 14+ spots for rookies? Steven and Lora are have sunk Ohio like the titanic. We can’t even RUN A PRELIM!! Lora won’t even advertise for the program on her Instagram. Not a single post about “sign up for insert prelim here”.. on her miss account with 11.5K followers, you’d think they’d push for that! She is seriously good for NOTHING, she’s a money funnel. That’s it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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My prediction is that Miss Ohio is going to have to open up to at large contestants again. They don’t have enough girls willing to compete. It’s sickening that MAO let Steven run things into the ground & this year’s scandal was the last that anyone can take. Only one local so far this year. All the rest didn’t even have 4 girls sign up. Most of the young girls have gone on to Captivating this weekend. The coaches are telling girls where else to go. A couple of the prettier ones will go to USA. Why work your butt off & pay thousands on wardrobe & training only to have the whole thing be rigged? MAO will have to replace Ohio’s entire board or not have Ohio compete. That’s if MAO can even stay in business. All doubtful! (NT) -- No name, 10:34:21 09/04/21 Sat I've heard Steven has wanted an open state for a while- less work for them; fewer EDs means less scrutiny; and no need to recruit locals. They'll run the 6 locals that have dates and if the others don't commit by November (I can't remember the deadline when locals have to commit for pageants after the new year) they'll declare the state Open. (NT) -- They can't have only 9 titles, then all sweepers., 14:53:20 09/05/21 Sun Speaking of recruiting locals: in the 4 years between 2014-2017, the leadership of the Miss Ohio program lost 5 local programs with 12 titles. Former contestants started Akron/Canton in 2016 and Capital City in 2018. (NT) -- The only growth is add-on titles and festival pageant queens., 15:06:37 09/05/21 Sun OH might as well be Rhode Island, the Dakota’s, Wyoming, and Alaska! Who would ever have thought OH would fail in such a profound way?! (NT) -- No name, 22:31:11 09/05/21 Sun It is time that all candidates and EDs decide to forego their collective time, energy, and money, and WALK AWAY. I presume that is what it will take to FINALLY get the attention of MAO, to complete a full audit of Steven, the corrupt board, sponsor actions, etc. this could have been the year for this to finally happen, as the fraud was as blatant as possible. Boycott and WALK AWAY from Steven, ‘Mother’, Linda, and the other fools…. (NT) -- No name, 22:12:58 09/05/21 Sun I have been saying this for years. Until everyone bands together and walks away, things will just continue to get worse. I know for FACT, of "irregularities" (to put it mildly) that occurred because of Oliveri's shenanigans. My daughter was competing at the time and she (and other contestants) saw these things happen with their own eyes. But MAO is just as corrupt as he is and will continue to back him up. We left the program years ago, and I know of many others who did as well. In the meantime, you will continue to get girls who would never have placed in a local to compete, because this is "their chance". It's pitiful. (NT) -- No name, 08:28:21 09/06/21 Mon Steven will always have his loyalists–– Dolly Ruffing of Maple City, Charmae Cottom of Greater Cleveland, & Jacky Johnson of Oxford to hold pageants for him. I'm disappointed to see Clayland is still on the schedule, as I thought Martha Campbell could stand up to Steven to protect the integrity of her program. (NT) -- but 9 titles & any sweepers they can scrap up will not be enough for a state pageant this year, 18:26:46 09/06/21 Mon I'd like to see the locals who aren't in Steven's pocket, instead of playing wait and see–– because we know nothing is going to change, decide to 'take a year off'. They don't have to quit their pageants, just take a year off for "leadership adjustments". That puts Steven in a real bind for contestants this season. (NT) -- No name, 18:36:55 09/06/21 Mon I really don’t understand what is keeping the attention of theClayland, Greater Cleveland, etc., Directors this year. I know Cleveland herself still chases titles and crowns, but I would have (hoped) that directors for Clayland and Maple City would FINALLY decide enough was enough. How can they possibly continue to be in the presence of Steven, ‘Mother’ and all the other cheaters, after the blatant corruption this year?!?? (NT) -- No name, 12:38:50 09/13/21 Mon The ED of Greater Cleveland, Northern Ohio, & Spirit of Ohio, Charmae Cottom, got Steven into pageantry, so she's not going anywhere (and why she added a title last year). Dolly Ruffing is Steven's biggest minion. Matti & Sarah Hider who had 'controversial' wins came from that local. Jackie Johnson from Oxford is all Jesus but stuck around after 2015- overlooked the integrity issues and carried on.... (NT) -- No name, 16:17:24 09/13/21 Mon I'm surprised by Clayland. Does Martha think anything is going to change between now and the new year? Or maybe she likes going to Miss America when it's HER girl competing (Sarah Clapper & Ellen Bryan). I was happy to see North Coast push off. Didn't expect it after they supported SO in 2015 but Jan & Don are in their 80s? so maybe an easy time to retire the pageant. (NT) -- No name, 16:18:24 09/13/21 Mon

Subject: Greg Davis - Rest In Peace
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:43:43 09/06/21 Mon I'm saddened to learn about Greg's death. He was a wealth of information and always so kind and helpful. He will be missed. I assume this was a Covid death since he was struggling to breathe. Can anyone confirm? (I don't want to start any rumors. I am just curious.) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Greg was involved with Portsmouth River Days- Click-in for Obituary- -- No name, 13:27:12 09/06/21 Mon According to a family member who posted on Facebook, it was a sudden massive heart attack. I believe Greg had some prior health issues. (NT) -- No name, 20:45:23 09/06/21 Mon He was a wonderful friend and great asset to the program. Rest In Peace Greg (NT) -- No name, 21:16:44 09/06/21 Mon Very sorry to hear this. He would have been a great Executive Director of Miss Ohio! So young! RIP. (NT) -- No name, 21:53:15 09/06/21 Mon

Subject: National Sweetheart- is anyone going to support Jaeleen ?
Author: Looking forward to watching her compete in Indiana, would love to see others there! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:07:06 08/26/21 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Congratulations on making top ten! She represented OH well. (NT) -- No name, 17:53:55 09/06/21 Mon

Subject: State Talent Links
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:21:40 08/14/21 Sat Here are the rest of the T5 talents Click here for Mackenzie Perry’s Talent Click here for Jordan Meyer’s Talent Click here for Ava Moore’s Talent [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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2 semi-finalists: Click here for Olivia Fosson’s Talent Click here for Emelia Sherin’s Talent (NT) -- No name, 12:22:59 08/14/21 Sat 2 NFTs: Click here for Emma Lewis NFT winner Click here for Autumn Kessler NFT winner (NT) -- No name, 12:23:42 08/14/21 Sat Click here for Olivia Kentner’s Talent (NT) -- No name, 12:24:38 08/14/21 Sat Fantastic talents (minus one). Thank you for sharing!! (NT) -- No name, 16:37:32 08/17/21 Tue

Subject: Jeffrey Kneedler & Lora Current
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:46:49 08/06/21 Fri Jeffrey Kneedler at her address- actual customer Lora Current [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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If only Mr. Hempy had decided to sponsor Grace instead. It would have been easier for us all. (NT) -- No name, 21:42:12 08/06/21 Fri Just seeing Lora makes me disgusted and sad this organization will not do the right thing (NT) -- No name, 17:55:15 08/11/21 Wed Disgusted and sad is a perfect description. (NT) -- No name, 18:40:47 08/11/21 Wed Mr. Oliveri took it too far this time. These girls recognize weak talent. No Miss Ohio has been crowned with that weak of a talent in 20 years and certainly not when we were a sash state from Kathrine Baumann in 1969 to Lea Mack in 1994. And to see her as People's Choice in direct competition with the other 9 girls did not leave any of them believing she was anything but a bought placement. Just ridiculous. What a slap in the face to these girls. (NT) -- No name, 22:54:22 08/11/21 Wed Those who have been defending Lora - you all are awful quiet after this circulated! Hard to justify this, isn’t it? -- No name, 08:06:18 08/14/21 Sat

Subject: How is our Teen Queen doing in Orlando?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:44:52 07/28/21 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It looks like shes having a blast and representing Ohio well! Good Job Maddy! You can livestream the competition each night! (NT) -- No name, 11:26:06 07/29/21 Thu She is one of the featured Teens in the Rebel clip !! (NT) -- No name, 14:52:38 07/29/21 Thu What day does she compete in talent? (NT) -- No name, 19:24:34 07/29/21 Thu Last night (Wednesday) (NT) -- No name, 19:30:53 07/29/21 Thu Maddy is SHINING!! Repping Ohio WELL !! (NT) -- No name, 08:57:17 07/30/21 Fri What will it take to get a teen in the top 11? I don’t believe this has happened since Kelsey Barret back over ten years ago. Ugh! So disappointed. I thought with this one we had a chance. 😢😢 (NT) -- No name, 22:25:51 07/30/21 Fri

Subject: Miss Lake Festival Contestants
Author: Sunday, July 18th. Preshow at 6p; show at 6:30pm [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:36:51 07/17/21 Sat Lake Fest 01. Genoa Arling* Bluffton U-J, Social Work, “Out of the Darkness”. 02. Makenzie Regedanz* Ohio Northern- S, Music Ed, "You Matter - Shine Your Light". 03. Gabriella Posada* Wright St Lake Campus- J, Psych, "Have A Heart For the Arts - Know the Impact" 04. Grace Etgen Hocking College-F, Law Enforcement, Conservation. 05. Rachel Werling** Wright St Lake Campus- F, Early Childhood Education. Promoting adoption! 06. Lauren Higgins Kent- S, Marketing, Comm Srvc & Volunteerism 07. Rianne Daniel OSU Lima Bio- S "Diversity in STEM - Making Science Interesting for Our Youth". 08. Alexis Brunswick Marion Local HS- "Be the Light In Someone's Darkness" * returning contestant **Emily Werling competed in MO15 T10 Talent winner. Is this her sister? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Genoa is a strong contender. She’s not only returning, but she spent the last year as Miss Ohio VA. Potentially has interview edge. (NT) -- No name, 21:24:20 07/17/21 Sat She must have given up her Volunteer title. They don't crown until Nov. and the MAO doesn't allow girls to compete in similar pageants. (NT) -- No name, 18:55:15 07/18/21 Sun Congratulations to the new Miss Lake Festival 2022 Rachel Werling! 1RU Rianne Daniel, 2RU Alexis Brunswick. (NT) -- No name, 16:16:59 07/20/21 Tue Rachel won Interview. Rianne Daniel won Talent; Alexis Brunswick won the Commitment to Excellence award; Genoa Arling was Miss Congeniality, which is voted upon by the contestants and the Lake Fest Committee. (NT) -- No name, 11:39:19 07/26/21 Mon

Subject: Congratulations Jaeleen Davis Miss Ohio Sweetheart!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:28:41 07/19/21 Mon Congratulations Jaeleen Davis, representing Ohio at the National Sweetheart Pageant, Labor Day weekend in Illinois. Goodluck! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Contestants- You are the only ones with the leverage to change Miss Ohio.
Author: Be willing to walk away, or Choose to be Used. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:14:24 07/07/21 Wed To the contestants, their parents, local directors, volunteers and anybody else who cares about this program: There was a post on Guru a while back saying a group of contestants have declared they are not coming back to Ohio because they feel the pageant was rigged. I spoke with a reporter who said 9 out of the 11 local EDs are banding together to demand answers from the Miss Ohio Board of Directors. (BTW- They'll deny, deny, deny, play all nice, and try to soothe you until the scandal blows over. I’ve seen this many times over these tumultuous last 5 years or so–– when a scandal erupts and everyone gets hopeful there will be a change in the stranglehold of leadership, both at Miss Ohio and Miss America. Like in 2014 when Miss America revoked the Ohio franchise and fired the entire board of directors without explanation. This OH Board had been working from the inside for years to remove Steven Oliveri which would have occurred that year, only for the head of Miss America to hand the program right back to him. The state program lost 10? local titles, so they allowed Festival winners to compete. Or when Sam Haskell was removed… only to be replaced by the disastrous Gretchen and Regina, who had 27,000 Change.org signatures demanding they resign. They didn’t and were sued by formers for their malfeasance. The missteps and legal costs Miss America has made has nearly bankrupted the program. Or when 27 states stood up to Gretchen and Regina, but *the others were too scared to lose their franchises to use their group power to force a change. Miss America revoked the state licenses of TN, GA, PA, WV and threatened 15 others with probation. >> The MAO’s actions spurred the creation of the Miss Volunteer America pageant. << Or when at Miss America 2019 they had only 3 ‘celebrity’ judges with no way for them to actually score the girls- no scoresheets or electronic tabulators. And the 2RU saw on a teleprompter that she didn’t make the Top 2, but they hadn’t had the last competition yet! Miss America is shady from the top down. Girls say they’re not coming back, then they get the itch or think with all the top girls gone that maybe they’ll have an easy win. Locals say they’ll band together, but they really like playing pageant. I do too. They’ll focus on their local program and the value of mentoring young women. So what does it really matter to them who ‘wins’ Miss Ohio, as they all go to Miss America anyway. ALL THIS to say… When is it REALLY enough? When is it REALLY enough to step up, band together, and end this years-long fraud? It’s heartbreaking* to give up something you love especially if it’s been a big part of your life. I put the pieces together years ago and realized then, people just can’t or won’t believe a program they idealized is corrupt until they see it for themselves. You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube now. What exactly are you holding on for? That they might not let you crown the next girl they use to bankroll the winner they pick? How would you feel crowning another young woman to go to MO knowing what you know? You’ve got to fight for the program you want and be willing to walk away if it isn’t changed. That’s your only leverage. If a group of 10 girls from the Miss Ohio pageant have a press conference to announce they are not returning because they believe sponsorship played a role in the results, >> they will make national news. Attention will be brought! << It may not result in the changes that are needed in leadership , but it’s not about them. Standing up to Steven is about your standards for yourself. You’re saying, I love this program but I won’t involve myself with anyone who cheats ME (especially of scholarship MONEY). You never had a shot at that $10,000, the title and opportunity of Miss Ohio you dreamed of, that you had to wait 2 years to compete for or the money and experience you get for competing in Miss America, and being Miss Ohio. You were used to bankroll the pageant. Refuse to be used. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Someone PLEASE get this gold into the hands of every single contestant that competed in 2021. (NT) -- No name, 18:48:41 07/07/21 Wed This is 100% spot on. And it's been going on a LOT longer than the last 5 years. I have said the exact same thing from back when my daughter competed well over 5 years ago, but nothing has changed except for the one year that Steven was not in charge. I used to volunteer, donate, help mentor, etc, But I know, from the inside out, of many ... um, shall we say "unusual" happenings under Steven's regime. I had judges tell me they questioned the results, knowing how they scored. I've seen Steven's paper shredder under his auditors table. I've had ED's tell me that results couldn't possibly be what they were, but they have no way to prove it. A Board member questioned SO to find out how a contestant could have possibly ended up placed where she did, with no response. Give it up. It's not going to change, and there will always be girls who will step in thinking they will be Miss Ohio because there is little competition. MAO is dead. (NT) -- No name, 08:39:33 07/09/21 Fri Ladies/EDs-GO TO THE MEDIA-IT’S TIME FOR PUBLIC RIDICULE AND AWARENESS -- No name, 21:26:49 07/09/21 Fri The local EDs should go to the media. Ladies that have aged out should go to the media. Past candidates that don’t plan to continue in Miss Ohio or any other pageant should go to the media. Ladies who want to compete elsewhere should not! No other pageant is going to want to crown a girl seen as a troublemaker even if she’s trying to do the right thing. But if most of the candidates that are still eligible quietly go elsewhere (USA or Volunteer) & the local EDs struggle to find quality girls to compete, Miss Ohio gets far less money from the candidates & attendance is down even further than it already is then something will happen one way or the other. I don’t even know that I think MA will be around much longer. I’d be shocked if it makes it 5 more years & anything before that would be no surprise. 2.0 & the people on the board then ruined MA. There’s no coming back now sadly. (NT) -- No name, 10:33:55 07/11/21 Sun Advising competing girls not to speak up to a money rigged pageant because you think they'll get blackballed in another system is wrong. Trust me, the Volunteer system knows how corrupt the MAO is-- that's what caused its inception! (NT) -- and they ALL know of Steven and Sam's schnanigans, 15:15:19 07/11/21 Sun Volunteer may know & USA may know but that doesn't mean they want a troublemaker. They are happy to have girls that leave Miss Ohio & go to them but not with a troublemaker label on them. They're adults they can make their decisions but I'm entitled to my opinion (NT) -- No name, 19:17:33 07/11/21 Sun There's good trouble and troublemakers and you'd think adults in those positions could tell the difference. Why would you want to be part of a system that would blackball you because you rightly stood up for yourself? Isn't that the whole problem here, nobody with the courage to stand up to clear croneyism? (NT) -- You can have your opinion, but it encourages cowardlyness, 10:23:49 07/12/21 Mon Speaking up and standing up to OBVIOUS disrespect is not causing trouble. (NT) -- No name, 23:39:22 07/12/21 Mon I don't disagree with you at all whatsoever but if girls want to continue in Miss Ohio then they have to play by the board's unspoken rules (NT) -- No name, 20:12:45 07/14/21 Wed WTF would any girl stay in this program unless they are too inexperienced an/ or naive to realize they will NOT be competing for Miss Ohio, only funding it for Steven's girl. (NT) -- And her family better be wealthy or she needs to get a sugar daddy., 22:54:36 07/14/21 Wed

Subject: Any updates/news from the big meeting?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:50:13 07/07/21 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I heard they are still at it, and it's ugly. (NT) -- Be strong girls! You have the power!, 22:24:44 07/07/21 Wed So what happened or what’s going to happen? My guess is nothing (NT) -- No name, 09:10:26 07/08/21 Thu Nothing. Same as always. Steven and MAO are in cahoots and they've got all the power. Until everyone in this program walks away and quits supporting them (volunteers, donators, etc.) nothing will change. I quit years ago. Not worth the time, money and effort. But you will always have some girls step up to compete for a title that means nothing anymore, just to be able to say she's Miss Ohio. Whatever. (NT) -- No name, 08:31:06 07/09/21 Fri Can you or someone please explain what happened in the meeting and what was outcome? I’m a parent of a soon to be college freshman who has always dreamed of competed in Miss Ohio. I found this message board when I did a search for Miss Ohio & I am shocked & saddened. I competed in the late 80s & my two best friends were women I met through this program. I feel terrible that it has been so full of problems now & am seriously considering not allowing my daughter to compete; however, she is pushing back because there are no details of what the ED or board has done in response. TIA (NT) -- No name, 12:01:04 07/09/21 Fri (adding for clarity) I did not compete in Miss Ohio. I competed in another state & made top 5 twice. (NT) -- No name, 12:02:39 07/09/21 Fri They have done nothing and will do nothing. Do NOT allow her to compete here until the current leadership is gone - especially if she wants to go to Miss America. We don’t crown Miss America contenders anymore. (NT) -- No name, 12:10:12 07/09/21 Fri Did they give any reasoning for doing nothing? This seems like a clear conflict of interest (NT) -- No name, 15:03:59 07/09/21 Fri Our director always claims he “knows nothing” and the board and local directors let him get away with it - over and over again. (NT) -- No name, 15:06:12 07/09/21 Fri The Miss America Program polices itself. They decide what moral turpitude is. They decide when they enforce the contract, and when they ignore contract breaches. IOW the only way something gets 'done' is if they decide to do something about it. (NT) -- Lora was Steven's doing. He's not going to do anything about her., 09:31:32 07/12/21 Mon Someone called Steven Sam's c@c I< holster and that started it over on Guru, lol. (NT) -- No name, 12:38:27 07/11/21 Sun Local directors, contestants and parents need to really think about continuing support of this state program. Do what’s right. Do not support a corrupt program (NT) -- No name, 22:00:23 07/11/21 Sun

Subject: I liked Grace's talent costume. Very appropriate for the song.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:00:16 07/09/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I agree very well done! (NT) -- No name, 18:36:15 07/09/21 Fri

Subject: There is now a change.org petition to ask for transparency regarding the connection between Jeff Knedler, the President of Hempy Water and a sponsor of Miss Ohio and Miss Ohio 2021, Lora Current. http://chng.it/tbPLHMFfsR
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:34:03 07/07/21 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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To the person who wrote this petition-- #1 Bloody hell, nearly a 1,000 words to sell an idea! They're never going to get past the second paragraph of this tome. And you spelled Oliveri wrong. Editing is critical1 #2 I don't think you'll get any traction on this until after the contestants talk with Steven and the Board tonight. (NT) -- ..., 14:38:35 07/07/21 Wed #3 You should know the original scoresheets WILL BE IN ORDER! The auditors didn't have to change the judges' scores when they input them into HIS computer program he built to tabulate the results, nor did Steven have to build and run a different software program to compute different results >> because he had 2-3 judges in his pocket! They knew who he wanted and who he didn't and scored accordingly. (NT) -- Becky Birdwell from TX was brought in another year with controversial results., 14:39:43 07/07/21 Wed #4 As much as you would think Lora may have been aware of the strings that were being pulled for her by Steven, I don't feel comfortable signing a petition which calls her personally a disgrace. At this point, this is an issue with how Steven operates Miss Ohio. I think the focus should be on sorting him and the board out and put aside any discussion of her until after that. (NT) -- ..., 14:48:09 07/07/21 Wed #5 Cheating by its nature is a covert act. Steven's covered his tracks. He and the BoD will circle the wagons and defend themselves with "where's your proof" (so when you demand the original scoresheets, you will end up proving they're in order). It's not against the rules for him to invite his drinking buddies he's made at Miss America the last 20 years to judge his pageant. They are all highly qualified judges. It will look like a perfectly legit competition on paper! (NT) -- ..., 14:56:13 07/07/21 Wed #6 Shantel Krebs MA Interim Pres & CEO says it's perfectly acceptable for a state sponsor to personally sponsor a contestant financially. That doesn't make sense to me as Jeff could threaten to pull his $4,500 in sponsorship dollars if Steven didn't pick his special girl. Jeff could also sweeten the MO general fund by sponsoring her People's Choice win and covering all of her prep costs for Miss America so the board doesn't have to. This is where the view of "buying the title" comes from. So the "it's not fair he spent twice as much as she won to promote her to Miss Ohio" argument means nothing to Miss America. (NT) -- ..., 15:12:23 07/07/21 Wed The pageant will appear legit on paper and MA doesn't care if a sponsor dips her in gold, so where does that leave the contestants who were cheated? You have lots of verified conjoined activity by Lora and Jeff, which looks unfair and honestly, quite creepy in that a 54 yo unmarried man is so involved with a 20yo girl. Dig into that 'special relationship' and why he's running her nonprofit out of his house, rather than her parents running the show. (NT) -- Their incorporating a business together may be what breaks the public's goodwill that MO is fair, 15:27:53 07/07/21 Wed

Subject: Lots of Defenses but no denials
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:15:01 06/30/21 Wed Why hasn't Lora's supporters explained what her exact relationship with Jeff Knedler is? Why did a man in his mid-50's take a special interest in an 18yo girl? What's the connection? What's in it for him? Has he had other connections with other contestants in the past, as a personal sponsor? Why would a small-town business man supposedly spend $10,000 to buy a girl an expensive couture evening gown? That's as much as the winner's scholarship! What is the extent of Lora & Jeff's business relationship? Why was his home address used for her non-profit? Also, who funded her People's Choice win? Lots of defenses, but no denials or explanations. Must be something to it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I pray someone is taking this to MA!!! Also the news. Clear conflict of interests. Lora shouldn’t have been eligible to compete (NT) -- No name, 19:44:34 06/30/21 Wed I'm laughing so hard at this comment that I spit out my coffee. Obviously you haven't been around this program very long if you think the answer is to go to MAO! MAO IS IN ON IT WITH STEVEN!! They have received numerous complaints for years and years about he and his bunch, yet they themselves are the ones who pulled a shady move and gave the program back to him. They don't care. He's one of them! (NT) -- No name, 08:44:28 07/07/21 Wed

Subject: Scholarships verses Operation Costs
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:53:16 07/06/21 Tue Dear Contestants, Parents, and EDs: Do you know how much Miss Ohio offers in scholarships verses their operating costs? Miss Ohio spent $159,166 to produce Miss Ohio 2018 and offered* $42,300 in scholarships. Contestants: Your cut is 26%; Miss Ohio’s is 74%. If you take into account one girl gets $10,000, your available scholarships are 20% of the budget. Wouldn’t you like to know exactly how Miss Ohio spent that $159,166*? How much did they pay the producer? Are the entertainers being paid more than the girls win in scholarships? How much did they spend on Miss America? EDs: Do you think you could give more scholarships/ put on a better show than the current leadership with $160K? Parents: You are funding the program via ticket sales and entry fees. A 3 night ticket package is $116. Entry fees are $500 to state and $100 for locals. For a family of 4 to attend the pageant & Coronation Ball and pay their daughter’s entry fees, it’s over $1,200 to the Miss Ohio org. This is why they give 5 titles at the end of the year sweeps pageant. It brings in ~$3,500 after they give each a $500 scholarship and that doesn’t include any ad money they raise. Here’s Miss Ohio’s latest IRS 990 tax form from 2018. Steven is delinquent in filing 2019 & 2020. (And I’d bet there’s a clause in their state contract requiring them to file in a timely manner.) $58,148 is “Contributions & Grants”. Miss Ohio offered $42,300 in scholarships in 2018. Note I say offered bc not all scholarships are claimed. The other $15,848 represents non-cash items like hotel rooms, flowers, meals and other donations to Miss Ohio. ** Expenses are not broken out on the 990 but in Schedule O, which isn’t attached to forms available online. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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The tax returns have always been skewed. Never submitted on time or accurate. Yet they get away with it year after year. MAO is complicit in this as well as the state submits the same documentation to them every year. There are no checks and balances. The only answer is to stop having locals stop donating and stop competing until this board is done and over (NT) -- No name, 21:50:54 07/06/21 Tue

Subject: Miss Ohio's Talent on Youtube
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:04:13 06/29/21 Tue Here's Miss Ohio's talent; judge for yourself: Click here to view Miss Ohio's Talent [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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This is outright embarrassing. Ohio has had its weaker talents- a one-song pianist, an off-key 'vocalist' and other forgettable but passable talents in the last 10yrs+, but this is clearly not worthy of winning a state title, especially against Mackenzie & Jordan's talents. (NT) -- step-ball change, step-ball change, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, 13:52:58 06/29/21 Tue omg this is comical!! it looks like a county fair number!! get it beef queen!!! (NT) -- No name, 14:13:22 06/29/21 Tue I can see why girls are pissed. Mackenzie and Jordan were 9-10's, Grace & Ava at least 8-9s, and more accomplished than a sophomore in college studying social work. (NT) -- No name, 15:17:33 06/29/21 Tue As a medical social worker, I am very offended by that remark. Just walk a mile in their shoes for a day and see how it feels. (NT) -- No name, 17:35:03 06/29/21 Tue They weren't saying it isn't valuable or hard work, but that it's an easier program than say, law. (NT) -- No name, 09:59:13 06/30/21 Wed So what? Ohio never represents at MA any way. (NT) -- No name, 16:41:43 06/29/21 Tue I think the 1RU cares. I think she cares she was cheated out of $6,000, the opportunity of a lifetime to compete at Miss America, and the chance to serve as Miss Ohio for a year. The rest of the girls are all cheated out of the opportunity to be Miss Ohio and their rightful scholarships. (NT) -- cheating sucks and hurt every one of the contestants, 09:56:54 06/30/21 Wed I thought it was entertaining. She’s obviously a good dancer so maybe a more dynamic routine which may score higher at Miss America (NT) -- No name, 17:32:40 06/29/21 Tue Where did you see the dancing part. I saw a lot of arms, posing, a few steps, and falling out of spins. (NT) -- No name, 10:00:29 06/30/21 Wed Embarrassing (NT) -- No name, 19:25:27 06/29/21 Tue Who put this on you tube? Isn’t there a copyright? Put up for the wrong reasons and should be removed. (NT) -- No name, 21:30:39 06/30/21 Wed Why should it be removed? Because it's so bad it's embarrassing. If no one commented that it was so awful, you'd be thrilled to be showing it off! (NT) -- No name, 07:54:41 07/01/21 Thu Wow. This is so lame. I cringed to have to watch it again. Mackenzie and Jordan were indeed robbed. I'm not sure how this talent even made it to the top five. I know Ohio's a weak state, but we did have two good talents and constestants this year with Mackenzie and Jordan. (NT) -- No name, 12:18:42 07/01/21 Thu Unfortunately the best talent doesnt always win. Maybe you should take this to the judge's chair person? (NT) -- No name, 12:38:13 07/01/21 Thu True, but the WORST talent doesn't win. I'm sorry to say, but Ohio has NEVER sent a talent as bad as Lora's. Not even close. After reviewing the girls' talents, I honestly think her talent was one of the weakest. So sad Ohio will be so weakly represented at Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 14:08:21 07/01/21 Thu I hate when people say someone was robbed, but Mac was robbed! Hempy & $teven wanted her to win and they made a way for it to happen.$$$ (NT) -- No name, 14:10:20 07/01/21 Thu Why is no one talking about Grace Browns talent?? She was robbed! Watch a video of her feet vs. Lora's feet and listen to the sounds! She kills her in every way!! Do a side by side comparison because it's embarrassing. (NT) -- No name, 23:42:26 07/01/21 Thu

Subject: HEMPY/LORA RECAP + NEW INFO … Looking at the situation from a neutral point of view, there is a lot of explanation needed for all of the strange connections between Jeff Knedler/Hempy Water and Lora Current/Miss Ohio. Jeff is the President of Hempy water, which sponsors Miss Ohio and Read on USA, which is Lora's non-profit and her platform. (part 1)
Author: missdetectiveohio [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:44:20 07/01/21 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Let’s start with, Lora incorporated her non-profit with the State of Ohio under her name and Jeff Knedler's home address… Why? (This link shows that this is true. https://bizimage.ohiosos.gov/api/image/pdf/202028201410) The following link shows that the address is Jeff's: https://www.ohioresidentdatabase.com/person/OH0018268751/knedler-jeffrey (part 2) (NT) -- missdetectiveohio, 19:45:21 07/01/21 Thu Second, they bought livestock together at the Hardin County Fair and she was buying it under her local title, Miss South Central Ohio and again using Jeff's home address. We know she comes from that background, but why are they doing it together AND under her title (start of sponsorship?). It’s very odd. Here is the website for that. https://hardincountyfair.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Thank-you-by-exhibitors.pdf Both of them are also listed as fair buyers at the Attica Fair http://atticafair.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020AtticaFairBuyers3.pdf (part 3) (NT) -- missdetectiveohio, 19:46:30 07/01/21 Thu Third, why are they attending a fundraiser for Tiffin Right to Life together? (https://reviewtimes.com/news/288206/sponsors-help-celebrate-life/) (part 4) (NT) -- missdetectiveohio, 19:47:14 07/01/21 Thu On top of all of this, Lora got top 10 as the winner of People's Choice (which you must pay to vote). Who paid enough to make her the People's Choice? It is a strange "coincidence" that People's Choice went on to win Miss Ohio, especially with all of these connections. It’s also been going around that Jeff paid at least for her custom evening gown (that cost $10,000) and possibly for more/all of her wardrobe and preparation. (part 5) (NT) -- missdetectiveohio, 19:48:26 07/01/21 Thu Two pieces of her wardrobe were purchased from Henris by Jeff Knedler. (Not her gown - that was purchased somewhere else.) Oh, and there is proof of this. (NT) -- No name, 21:07:17 07/01/21 Thu This post isn’t about “sour grapes” or being disappointed in the winner, it’s about the blatant connection between a state sponsor/miss candidate and how that impacted the competition. The relationship between Jeff Knedler (Hempy Water President) and Lora must be explained or her title removed. We, most especially volunteers and candidates, deserve to have it explained. So please clarify these things. This won't be dropped until there is an explanation or the first runner up is crowned. (part 6) THE END ... for now (NT) -- missdetectiveohio, 19:49:48 07/01/21 Thu All of this is 100 percent on the nose & someone needs to do something (NT) -- No name, 20:07:01 07/01/21 Thu Taking your grievances to the voy is a great idea, as it is a highly respected pageant website filled with people that can do something about it. Seriously tho, no one here can do a thing except stroke your wounded ego. Take this information to people who can help! The media, Miss A (NT) -- No name, 21:35:18 07/01/21 Thu Continued - contact your local E.D. And Board, contact the Miss Ohio Board, contact Miss America Board, contact Mansfield News (Lou Whitmer does all of the Miss Ohio reporting). And thats stuff i camre up with in a cpl minutes. If you feel theres really been a cheating dispute, Voy people cant do anything (NT) -- No name, 21:46:30 07/01/21 Thu I didn’t post all of this evidence but I did contact Lou Whitmire & MAO. It’s useless to contact anyone on the Ohio board. They know what Steven is doing & have for years. (NT) -- No name, 22:15:24 07/01/21 Thu Lou Whitmire 'supports the program'. It will go nowhere with her. Miss America knows what Steven does too, and they will take your complaint and give it right to Steven. (NT) -- No name, 22:52:31 07/01/21 Thu LOL. This is DEFINITELY a newbie here. "Contact the Miss Ohio Board." You absolutely don't know Ohio's history. (NT) -- No name, 22:18:16 07/01/21 Thu

Subject: Hempy Water sponsoring Lora Current's platform
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:24:11 06/14/21 Mon Hempy Water has posted they are sponsoring Lora Current's personal platform: Lora's Platform is: They are a Miss Ohio Sponsor: [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Isn't this a conflict of interest? I thought the contract said specifically that sponsors can't endorse specific girls. (NT) -- No name, 11:54:19 06/15/21 Tue Huge conflicts!! She should be in Breach of contract now before it gets embarrassing for Ohio. Also heard her gown was paid for by someone affiliated with the board or member to henris!!! (NT) -- No name, 02:28:08 06/20/21 Sun Paid for by Jeff Knedler of Hempy Water. Evidence circulating. (NT) -- No name, 02:33:35 06/20/21 Sun Pardon me but holy shit!!!! Steven and the board better reevaluate the top 5 and hand count the scores. So many huge conflicts!!! She needs the crown taken back! She doesn’t stand for anything Steven said he wanted either in a representative !!! So shady (NT) -- No name, 02:51:18 06/20/21 Sun Are you saying the gown was purchased for Lora by Jeff Knedler/ Hempy Water? (NT) -- No name, 02:56:34 06/20/21 Sun not just gown, ENTIRE WARDROBE (NT) -- No name, 14:04:09 06/20/21 Sun You better be backing these claims up with some hard evidence. If you dont have actual evidence, SIT DOWN! And stop perpetuating hearsay! (NT) -- No name, 23:21:07 06/24/21 Thu Um. Can you see the screenshots that were posted? You may wanna check that indignation. (NT) -- No name, 07:34:44 06/25/21 Fri Your screenshots show nothing of a MO sponsor - endorsing a candidate. Her platform yes, but many platforms have been supported thru the years by sponsors. Thats NOT against any rules. Our Miss Ohio worked hard, got out and found businesses to support her platform. Nothing wrong with hard work. Your daughter could have done the same thing, youre just jealous that you/she didnt (NT) -- No name, 09:34:09 06/25/21 Fri Oh, so Hempy Water, who is a Miss Ohio Sponsor, didn't 'endorse a candidate' but a "candidate's platform" just like other Miss Ohio Sponsors have done over the years. Yeah, name one. (NT) -- nobody's jealous of a girl who's in cahoots with a sponsor, 18:09:15 06/25/21 Fri And did those 'other sponsors' not just support a candidate's platform, but did they go into business with them as well? Jeff's home address is Lora's non-profit's address. Explain why that is. (NT) -- No name, 18:21:26 06/25/21 Fri Finally, how is it not 'against any rules' for a sponsor to be in business with a contestant? Her business partner Jeff could dictate that unless she wins, he's not paying his sponsorship. (NT) -- No name, 18:22:38 06/25/21 Fri if this were my daughter/granddauther I would be completely embarrassed. time for this to be addressed. put your so-called 'christian' values to the test and confess to all the inappropriateness happening here. (NT) -- No name, 11:19:11 06/25/21 Fri Agreed!! In all the years watching this program, never has there been so many issues as with this young lady. it's never the wrong time to do the right thing... cheating is wrong. period. (NT) -- No name, 11:22:53 06/25/21 Fri Sore losers say that EVERY YEAR! “There’s never been a worse, more evil, less talented, unattractive, etc winner. If you cant hang with the pageant world- get out but stop degrading the winner. (NT) -- No name, 11:58:46 06/25/21 Fri spoken like a true hypocrite!! way to deflect what really happened!! CLASSIC!! LOL!!! (NT) -- No name, 15:46:04 06/25/21 Fri Nothing Happened ! Had your daughter won, you wouldve been bragging about how awesome the program is, but since she didnt, youre sour grapes. 😂😂😂. (NT) -- No name, 15:55:55 06/25/21 Fri What do you mean, nothing happened? She's in business with a sponsor! He bought her a very expensive gown. People's Choice was somehow funded too. Why did a man in his mid-50's take such an interest in a teenager? Explain their relationship, so we can understand how 'nothing happened'. (NT) -- That's not sour grapes; that's something's fishy here, 19:22:52 06/25/21 Fri She is not in business with a sponsor. Go back thru the years, businesses have supported various platforms. (NT) -- No name, 21:50:04 06/25/21 Fri OK, so explain why she used his home address as her business address. (NT) -- And you can't name any girls who have taken up with a Miss OH sponsor, or you would., 23:12:11 06/25/21 Fri Oh Honey, you must think we haven't been around the block a few times, trying to sell that old pageant drivel of 'sour grapes' on this board. This is how Ohio has always operated, it was just was so apparent this year because of talent and the winner and a sponsor being in bus together. (NT) -- Somebody's triggered and super defensive. No one's degrading the winner., 19:15:46 06/25/21 Fri it’s a massive contract violation: “5.10. Prohibition of Endorsement of Competing Products and Services. I acknowledge that the State or Local Organization has contracted in the past, and will contract in the future, for the financial support of commercial companies and organizations, whose advertising commitments and other sponsorships are an important element of the financial stability of the Program. I agree that I will not in any way endorse or permit my name or likeness to be used in connection with the endorsement or advertisement of any products or services competitive to the products or services of an advertiser, sponsor, or licensee of the State or Local Organization, either during my Year of Service, unless the State or Local Organization approves such an endorsement or advertisement in writing. I understand that the State or Local Organization is under no obligation to approve or consent to any such endorsement or advertisement after the end of my Year of Service.” -- every candidate signs off on this, she broke her contract., 22:28:34 06/25/21 Fri This has nothing to do with this situation. They don't want whoever wins Miss America to advertise for a competitor of their sponsors. (NT) -- No name, 23:05:56 06/25/21 Fri Wait so she didn’t break the contact? It’s not sponsoring her they sponsor her platform? So what’s the problem LOL (NT) -- No name, 09:26:49 06/26/21 Sat Mr. Hempy: “You know Steven, I’m sponsoring $5,000 in scholarships this year (wink wink). There's this one special contestant. She's really doing great things with our, I mean her nonprofit. I’m also going to sponsor her, I mean her platform. I hope you see my money, I mean her, as special as I do." (NT) -- No name, 17:45:24 06/30/21 Wed 2.6.4. Good Character. I am of good moral character, and I have not been involved at any time in any act of moral turpitude or behavior that is, or could be, perceived by the State or Local Organization as contrary to the GOALS AND OBJECTIVES of the Miss America Program or its elements as described in Paragraph 1.1 of this contract and as determined by MAO in its sole and absolute discretion. (NT) -- No name, 09:41:13 06/26/21 Sat 2.6.6. Prior Conduct. I have never, knowingly or unknowingly, performed any act or engaged in any activity or employment that is or that the State or Local Organization could characterize as dishonest, immoral, lewd, or indecent. (NT) -- No name, 09:42:57 06/26/21 Sat

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