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Subject: We've all heard you complain, dozens of times, any chance you get, anywhere you can edge in, about how butthurt you are, how 'unfair' you feel it was (a childish lament in the face of reality, lol), how unfathomable it is to you that Miss Vol doesn't operate like you would, think like you do, or pick your girl- iow, how upset you are that the world doesn't revolve around you and how you feel entitled to throw temper tantrums about it. Author: You may want to talk with your doctor to see if dying mad about it is right for you. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 10:59:21 10/22/22 Sat In reply to: 's message, "Dear, this is a post about MISS OHIO. Miss Ohio & Miss Ohio Volunteer a two DIFFERENT organizations. They have different competitions, different judging criteria, different scoring systems, different judges, different perspectives, different leaders..." on 10:45:36 10/22/22 Sat [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: That’s flawed thinking. There are many of us (not just one person) that are mad & now think MOV is rigged just like the rest. Veronica made promises she didn’t keep. Most there were shocked & if you had someone you care about competing (except Brittany’s & Caroline’s families) you walked out either confused or angry. You’re unfairly blaming this frustration on one person & from your wording a contestant. It’s not only one person or one contestant. It’s also families & friends of several contestants. Some just choose not to post here because they know how it will be taken. Everything posted here is “It’s sour grapes” if one of the girls you collectively like wins & if one of the girls you love to hate doesn’t win that makes it even better for all of you. Author: Talk to your therapist [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:32:56 10/26/22 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Do you seriously think you need to explain here that after a pageant there may be multiple people who are unhappy with the results, lol? Hon, in every pageant ever there are girls and their friends and family who think their darling was robbed-- despite not seeing interviews, not understanding the program, not understanding the judging, & not knowing who the judges/chair are. It makes perfect sense that some in the audience may have been confused. They are novices with preconceived ideas of how it should go, rather than how it goes irl. Author: lots to unpack here... [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:05:36 10/28/22 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I understand you feel something went wrong and you're insisting it's on the pageant's side, not your contestant's! Interesting you created more excuses as to why your girl didn't win for reasons outside of herself: We love Brittney (and therefore are blindly loyal to her); we have a hate mission on other girls; and it's better for us when they don't win?!? Holy cow that's a lot of projection. Author: What promises has Veronica not kept? Why is every reasonable explanation of why Brittney won disregarded? [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:08:43 10/28/22 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Also, ‘my wording’ did NOT blame the obstinate refusal to consider anything other than it was fixed on a contestant- “…how unfathomable it is to you that Miss Vol doesn't operate like you would, think like you do, or PICK YOUR GIRL.” Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:10:54 10/28/22 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: It’s not that “my girl” wasn’t picked. I didn’t have “a girl” competing. I have tons of pageant experience, decades worth. It’s that there were at least 3 - 4 that should have been crowned before Brittney not just a girl I wanted to win. That’s based on everything I saw on stage. When interview is only 25% and factoring in the post interview biases she still shouldn’t have won. I saw her talent at MOSP. It was much better then so no way she’d have won talent. Evening gown including walk were average and swimsuit was below average. So even if we say it all ended up about average and her interview was amazing that still doesn’t give her the title. Veronica didn’t keep the promise that it would be so much better than MOSP. It’s not. It’s just the same. Author: Not everything is sour grapes [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:50:01 10/29/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Are you the same person as in this thread? Because this doesn't make sense. You falsely accused me of "unfairly blaming this frustration on one person & from your wording a contestant", so I showed my *words* were "(they're upset) Volunteer didn't 'pick your girl'". Now you've switched the argument to 'you don't have a girl'?!? OK, but that has nothing to do with you accusing me of blaming the bitching and moaning here on a contestant when I didn't. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:24:04 11/03/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: So, you were at Miss Ohio this year and Miss Volunteer, have decades of pageant experience, yet don't have a girl in the race. But are enough of an insider to know, allegedly, that Veronica promised, "that (Volunteer) would be so much better than MOSP." Uh huh. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:32:23 11/03/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Also, I don’t have negativity toward Brittany. I’m just giving my opinion of her as a contestant. Everyone has good and bad days. I’m sure she thinks she won this fairly or maybe she knows it wasn’t. I don’t blame her for wanting and keeping the title. She’s aged out of all but USA and I don’t see her there. It will be interesting to see who comes back next year. There’s at least 3 who are not. There’s now a precedent that bigger girls can win in spite of swimsuit so some of the heavier girls might give it a try. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:56:54 10/29/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: "Also, I don’t have negativity toward Brittany." Bitch, please! You are the person that started this! Quote: "Then how did Brittney win MOV? She can guilt everyone all she wants about not liking her swimsuit body, but she was heavy." Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:37:13 11/03/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: -and you somehow know 'at least 3' (of 8 girls) are not returning, but don't have a girl. Looks like the original accusation was just a projection. You've convinced me you're a contestant, mom, or someone within arm's length. Author: lots of reasons beyond what was seen on stage that influence pageant outcomes [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:59:23 11/03/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Did you forget you posted this: "and if one of the girls you collectively like wins & if one of the girls you love to hate doesn’t win that makes it even better for all of you" but you have no negativity for Brittney. JFC- we can read!!! Author: That's some dark projection. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:03:18 11/03/22 Thu . [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Finally- why would you see this as ‘unfairly' blaming one person, unless you are the person mainly responsible for repeatedly attacking & nit-picking her in EVERY aspect, down to disparaging her Juris Doctorate and law cert from Georgetown as 'not as big of deal as she makes it out to be'. THAT'S ridiculously flawed thinking from an unsophisticated person. Author: Remember, it's not her 'fault' she won even though you didn’t want her to. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:11:47 10/28/22 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]