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Subject: After 2 years of assurances from Shantel that,"We've got it all under control," "We'll be on broadcast TV," MA was a shit show. The production was as amateur as a local. I would be disappointed if I hadn't decided the 100th would be my last. The handling of the Covid exposure was irresponsible. Shantel’s lucky the Miss A’s said yes on Tuesday, after losing all the judges and hosts Sunday night. They never announced how the girls were scored for prelims or finals by the t h r e e judges. Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 19:44:04 12/18/21 Sat In reply to: 's message, "New Board / Directors?" on 18:50:52 12/18/21 Sat [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: I've realize there are many states like Ohio. State EDs who are in it for themselves aren't going anywhere. They aren’t going to give up their ‘power’ at state and who else is going to kiss their ass like a girl wanting to win a pageant? They're not giving up their fancy vacation to Miss America every year because of shit leadership! IT DOESN'T AFFECT THEM! No matter who's crowned, no matter if it's fair, no matter if they haven't raised their scholarship in 30 years-- the leadership ALWAYS gets to go party at Miss America. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:47:03 12/18/21 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: And the Ohio local directors are to Steven as the states are to Shantel. They aren’t going anywhere. It doesn’t matter who wins state, it doesn’t matter if it's fair, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THEM! They’ll say they’re “doing it for the girls” and “scholarships” to justify their continued support of MO/Steven. They aren’t going to give up their pageantry hobby just because the state is sketchy. It’s no skin off their ass. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:55:25 12/18/21 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: So they can have it! They can have choosing judges who are MA friends. They can have sponsors sponsoring a contestant personally. They can have all their appearances of impropriety but no appearances for MO. They can have VMK style Miss Ohio. They can have fundraising off the backs of the girls’ parents. They can have a girl touting her non-profit that someone else runs. They can take money to put a girl directly in the T10 so her prelim scores won’t matter. They can choose favorites. They can rig it. Author: ... [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:17:41 12/18/21 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Then Miss America can overlook it all! Doesn’t affect them! They can expose them to a deadly disease. They can stupidly litigate over and over. They can have a pageant where they don’t tell the girls how they’ll be judged. They can have their pitiful, amateur national pageant using a HS level production team. They can have the egotistical, insecure, incompetent Shantel. They can have it. They can have it all. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:18:53 12/18/21 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Who's they? Shantel Krebs, the Miss America Board of Directors, the MA staff, Steven Oliveri, the Miss Ohio Board of Directors and any girl who's willing to accept it all. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:26:10 12/18/21 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]