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Subject: Clayland Contestants Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 17:04:14 10/11/21 Mon  * Madison Miller, 21, resides in Coshocton. She is a student at Ohio Wesleyan University and will play the piano. Her Social Impact Initiative is United States Veterans Appreciation and Mental Health Awareness. * Autumn Kessler, 24, resides in Kent.  She is a graduate of Muskingum University and will tap dance.  Her Social Impact Initiative is Bettering Children’s Mental Health. * Caitlin Seifert, 23, resides in Niles. She is a graduate student at Kent State University and will be twirling baton.  Her Social Impact Initiative is Volunteerism. * Emma Rose Lewis, 24 lives in Cleveland.  She is a vocalist and is a student at Baldwin Wallace University.  Her Social Impact Initiative is Sexual Assault Prevention and Supporting Survivors. * Emily Fields, 20, resides in Aurora.  She is a Student at Kent State University and is a tap dancer. Her Social Impact Initiative is Invisible Disability Awareness. * Olivia Kentner, 22, is from Wapakoneta. She is a vocalist who attends the University of Cincinnati.  Her Social Impact Initiative is Youth Career Exploration and Personal Development. * Elizabetta Nies, 18, resides in Cincinnati.  She is a student at Miami University and plays the piano.  Her Social Impact Initiative is Living from the Inside Out. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: How is Autumn even competing after she took the pic of the Henri's record saying that Mr. Hempy paid for the dress? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:37:10 10/11/21 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Because, regardless of the thought of having any integrity, she just wants a title at all costs. Shows you who is in this strictly to claim they are Miss Whatever, rather than for the effort of bettering themselves and others. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:45:19 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: I know for a fact Autumn didn’t take the pic. Another associate did it. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:12:09 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: If you are blasting Autumn let’s focus on the real deceit and who paid for the crown… caught on record of illegal sponsorship and is still representing Ohio!!! So sad Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:47:56 11/07/21 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: How is Lora Current-Hemphy the reigning Miss Ohio? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:44:43 10/11/21 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Exactly!!! Her send off online invitation isn’t even grammatically correct! She seems to disappoint without others feeding her answers. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:53:43 11/07/21 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: I wonder if all the candidates are getting their own sponsors this year to fund and promote them? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:18:54 10/11/21 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Emma Rose Lewis looks so much older than that Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:21:41 10/11/21 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Get used to these names people. This is the contestant list for every local this year, minus one each time of course. This is it. This is Ohio. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:08:38 10/11/21 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: You could not be more accurate…. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:22:33 10/11/21 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Not true. Coaches are advising girls to do certain locals that do well at MO or give good scholarships. Three of those happen to be in October. After these some girls will be done. No one wants to deal with Lora and by the looks of that party they don’t want to deal with Charmae either. Steven will have to get MA’s blessing to open up the state to at large. Then we will see. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:40:32 10/11/21 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Who are the ‘coaches’ you are referencing? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:20:05 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: The only locals that award decent money are Lake Fest, which is closed, and Clayland. Every veteran that doesn't win at Clayland will compete at Maple City. Other than that, there's only Cleveland left. Those locals left that do well at MO are coincidentally Steven's minions- Clayland & Maple City. Author: Nobody's coaching for MO except Vicky King. Madison & Olivia are up her butt [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:05:01 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: So…who’s it gonna be from this stellar listing of ‘candidates’??? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:25:27 10/11/21 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Stop it! Just stop it! I’ve never posted before. I just lurk but my daughter is one of these candidates. She’s not a Miss Ohio legacy but she has always wanted to be part of this program since early in high school. She’s a good young woman with morals and a conscience. She’s smart and talented. The way you women spend all your time criticizing those women who want to compete is pathetic. Yes Ohio is a mess now but I still have hope it will get better. I’m sure all of you are great and talented beauties who would win your first preliminary every time as opposed to a bunch of tired Karens with nothing to do but talk bad about all these girls. Focus your anger on Steven and Lora where it belongs. They deserve it. These girls do not. Btw these girls know they can’t trust any of you volunteers because a lot of these posts are made by the volunteers. Mother you are at the top of that list. Get a life and stop posting negative comments about girls who are doing their best. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:53:33 10/11/21 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Who are you referencing as ‘Mother’??? Calm down, BTW. Appreciate your daughters desires to participate for years, but why would you want her to be positioned to play a role in this mess?? Send her to any other program…but NOT Miss OH! Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:22:16 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: There are a lot of other things you could encourage your daughter to do, rather than support an illegitimate and corrupt program. Obviously you haven't been around this program for very long if you think it will "get better". This has been going on for years and years, and it's only gotten worse. Instead of continuing to support them, you would think that you would realize that the only way to force the corruption out of the program is for everyone to walk away! All you are doing is allowing by competing is allowing them to continue this farce. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:50:08 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Excuse the errors, it's early and still drinking my coffee. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:51:15 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: If this is your daughter, you should be ashamed as a parent for encouraging her to compete in the MOSP. The system has made it clear they do not care about your daughter and anyone else’s daughter as well. If you are a parent encouraging your daughter to compete in the organization that depleted young women’s mental health at the cost of an outdated, public embarrassment, and irrelevant title, you need to question your integrity. Don’t you think YOUR daughter is worth more? Do better. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:25:54 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Not encouraging but supporting. If I had it my way there would be no pageants of any kind Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:46:13 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: I think it’s fair to say, that there are no signals indicating change is on the way. Leadership remains in position, Lora retains the crown, and aside from attempts made to alert MAO of the June mess, the next step has mot been taken. That is two-fold: (1) media engagement/involvement; (2) candidates refusal to compete. Minus girls-minus pageant activity. Until these two occur, it will be more of the same… Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:11:38 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: There have been 60+ posts from your IP address, many putting down 4 of your daughter's competitors. You don't know who's posting- don't claim to. Author: MOD [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:38:51 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Here’s the thing Moms - you’re putting your daughters in a situation where they have absolutely no chance of winning unless they’re the chosen one for the year, so why would you support that? Why can’t your daughter wait until the corrupt leadership is gone, or compete elsewhere? She has zero chance here. Maybe she’s betting on her shot of being the chosen one? Maybe she doesn’t mind that she’s disrespecting every single girl who was cheated in June? Maybe she thinks since no one is left, she has a better shot? If you as her mom thinks this will be a fair competition, I hate to break it to you. It is not and will never be until changes are made, and even then, the National org is just as bad. It’s not worth the time, energy, money, heart, and everything else it takes to be successful here. Ask around - this is not a reputable program for your daughter to represent. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:26:05 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: In our case my daughter would do it whether I supported it or not. She’s the type of girl that lets nothing st& in her way. USA has many things she (& I) don’t like. Volunteer is too new, I don’t like their scoring & I don’t like how the director stalks people online. The rest are a bunch of rinky dink money makers that won’t help you in life. Being part of MA still carries weight. Either way I st& by saying that you need to leave these girls alone. She isn’t disrespecting anyone by competing. Everyone can make their own choices & she supports whatever the other girls choose to do. She can’t wait until leadership is replaced because who knows how long that will take & she will age out. So if you want to bash the program, Steven, Jeff, Lora, the board, the volunteers, the local EDs, all fine.BUT DON’T BASH THE GIRLS COMPETING! They’re young women wIth feelings & no one seems to care about that. Even if they are not on here themselves it gets back to them. Grow up! Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:27:32 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: There have been 60+ posts from your IP address, many putting down 4 of your daughter's competitors. You don't know who's posting. Author: MOD [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:41:15 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Well that is fascinating because due to my husband's work we have a VPN so my IP address isn't what is shown. It isn't the same every time. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:51:58 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Author: Do not respond to you own posts - it looks like several posters responded [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:02:52 10/13/21 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Looks like the hubby didn't add you on the work VPN. Author: are these your daughter's posts too? [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:08:55 10/13/21 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: OK Allie Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:53:26 10/12/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: This person was an idiot for doing this stunt, and I hope that she explains to her daughter how much the well was poisoned by this for her. Not only did she insult almost all the other competitors she was dumb enough to insult the State ED and the exquisite Hempy Highness. Not smart. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:56:21 10/15/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Who is Allie? Also, how would anyone know who wrote all these posts? I agree it’s weird but that’s not the point. I’m not a computer person in any way but I looked up that IP address on 3 sites to see the location. One said Lexington, KY, one said Elyria, OH and one said Newark, Ohio. (So much for narrowing down even an area.) I then looked up the IP address I was on just to see if it even sort of gave me an idea. One said Wichita, KS, one said Secaucus, NJ and the other said it was a VPN address. The last one is possible since I was waiting for my hair to process at the salon and on their WiFi. I definitely was not in NJ or KS so I don’t think without having some computer genius or law enforcement look for it we could know but nothing was a crime so that’s not happening. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:13:28 10/19/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Since you’re “not a computer person in any way”, maybe this will help. IPs are not static on cell phones. Your service will connect you to whatever network they have available, which can be all over the country, so it's completely normal an IP on a cell shows up in locations it is not. #2 Seeing some odd locations for 174.30.77.87 is prob bc you’re using crappy locator engine or don’t know how to interpret the info. Legit IP locators put this IP in Aurora, Ohio. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:50:28 10/20/21 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: (continued) I mean I guess process of elimination? Girls mentioned: Emma, Elizabetta, Emily and Autumn so I guess they’d be ruled out. That leaves Caitlin, Madison and Olivia or their parents. If I had to pick one of the three I could guess but what’s the point? No one actually knows. Could also be one of their siblings or friends, an ED, volunteer, former contestant, board member, MO fan, who knows? Point is I don’t know how anything could be ruined for a contestant when we have no clue who it is. Heck people on here blame Renee for all kinds of posts that I don’t think she has anything to do with. Nothing on this board is life or death so we all need to relax sometimes and not be so serious. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:15:37 10/19/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: All these messages were sent from the same IP address/household and your theory is an ED, Volunteer, former contestant, board member, MO fan, or ‘who knows’ drove to this IPs household in Aurora, Ohio just past midnight on Sat Sept 18th, again on Mon Sept 27th, also Mon Oct 11th at dinnertime then again at midnight, over 60 times, and broke into this IPs modem so they could send posts bad mouthing contestants. Uh huh. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:39:44 10/20/21 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: “I’ve never posted here before; I just lurk.” This could be true and she didn’t know her contestant daughter was the “tired Karen with nothing better to do than talk bad about all the girls.” Author: how embarassing [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:17:00 10/20/21 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: *They've also posted a thread, then answered their own question, several times. That’s a no-no on Voy. Double posting makes it appear like several others hold the same opinion, rather than it’s one person populating the conversation. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:18:04 10/20/21 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Boy that one is trying to deflect and deny desparately. Everybody knows the truth here, but we are being nice so far. Don't push it or names will be named. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:56:47 10/21/21 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Elizabetta Nies- Talent winner, Olivia Kentner- 1RU, Emily Fields, Emma Lewis- Miss Clayland 2022, Caitlin Seifert, Autumn Kessler- Community Service winner, Madison Miller. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:16:18 10/19/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]