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Subject: Hempy Water sponsoring Lora Current's platform Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 15:24:11 06/14/21 Mon Hempy Water has posted they are sponsoring Lora Current's personal platform: Lora's Platform is: They are a Miss Ohio Sponsor: [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Isn't this a conflict of interest? I thought the contract said specifically that sponsors can't endorse specific girls. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:54:19 06/15/21 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Huge conflicts!! She should be in Breach of contract now before it gets embarrassing for Ohio. Also heard her gown was paid for by someone affiliated with the board or member to henris!!! Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:28:08 06/20/21 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Paid for by Jeff Knedler of Hempy Water. Evidence circulating. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:33:35 06/20/21 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Pardon me but holy shit!!!! Steven and the board better reevaluate the top 5 and hand count the scores. So many huge conflicts!!! She needs the crown taken back! She doesn’t stand for anything Steven said he wanted either in a representative !!! So shady Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:51:18 06/20/21 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Are you saying the gown was purchased for Lora by Jeff Knedler/ Hempy Water? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:56:34 06/20/21 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: not just gown, ENTIRE WARDROBE Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:04:09 06/20/21 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: You better be backing these claims up with some hard evidence. If you dont have actual evidence, SIT DOWN! And stop perpetuating hearsay! Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:21:07 06/24/21 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Um. Can you see the screenshots that were posted? You may wanna check that indignation. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:34:44 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Your screenshots show nothing of a MO sponsor - endorsing a candidate. Her platform yes, but many platforms have been supported thru the years by sponsors. Thats NOT against any rules. Our Miss Ohio worked hard, got out and found businesses to support her platform. Nothing wrong with hard work. Your daughter could have done the same thing, youre just jealous that you/she didnt Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:34:09 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Oh, so Hempy Water, who is a Miss Ohio Sponsor, didn't 'endorse a candidate' but a "candidate's platform" just like other Miss Ohio Sponsors have done over the years. Yeah, name one. Author: nobody's jealous of a girl who's in cahoots with a sponsor [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:09:15 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: And did those 'other sponsors' not just support a candidate's platform, but did they go into business with them as well? Jeff's home address is Lora's non-profit's address. Explain why that is. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:21:26 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Finally, how is it not 'against any rules' for a sponsor to be in business with a contestant? Her business partner Jeff could dictate that unless she wins, he's not paying his sponsorship. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:22:38 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: if this were my daughter/granddauther I would be completely embarrassed. time for this to be addressed. put your so-called 'christian' values to the test and confess to all the inappropriateness happening here. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:19:11 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Agreed!! In all the years watching this program, never has there been so many issues as with this young lady. it's never the wrong time to do the right thing... cheating is wrong. period. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:22:53 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Sore losers say that EVERY YEAR! “There’s never been a worse, more evil, less talented, unattractive, etc winner. If you cant hang with the pageant world- get out but stop degrading the winner. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:58:46 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: spoken like a true hypocrite!! way to deflect what really happened!! CLASSIC!! LOL!!! Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:46:04 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Nothing Happened ! Had your daughter won, you wouldve been bragging about how awesome the program is, but since she didnt, youre sour grapes. 😂😂😂. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:55:55 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: What do you mean, nothing happened? She's in business with a sponsor! He bought her a very expensive gown. People's Choice was somehow funded too. Why did a man in his mid-50's take such an interest in a teenager? Explain their relationship, so we can understand how 'nothing happened'. Author: That's not sour grapes; that's something's fishy here [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:22:52 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: She is not in business with a sponsor. Go back thru the years, businesses have supported various platforms. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:50:04 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: OK, so explain why she used his home address as her business address. Author: And you can't name any girls who have taken up with a Miss OH sponsor, or you would. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:12:11 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Oh Honey, you must think we haven't been around the block a few times, trying to sell that old pageant drivel of 'sour grapes' on this board. This is how Ohio has always operated, it was just was so apparent this year because of talent and the winner and a sponsor being in bus together. Author: Somebody's triggered and super defensive. No one's degrading the winner. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:15:46 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: it’s a massive contract violation: “5.10. Prohibition of Endorsement of Competing Products and Services. I acknowledge that the State or Local Organization has contracted in the past, and will contract in the future, for the financial support of commercial companies and organizations, whose advertising commitments and other sponsorships are an important element of the financial stability of the Program. I agree that I will not in any way endorse or permit my name or likeness to be used in connection with the endorsement or advertisement of any products or services competitive to the products or services of an advertiser, sponsor, or licensee of the State or Local Organization, either during my Year of Service, unless the State or Local Organization approves such an endorsement or advertisement in writing. I understand that the State or Local Organization is under no obligation to approve or consent to any such endorsement or advertisement after the end of my Year of Service.” Author: every candidate signs off on this, she broke her contract. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:28:34 06/25/21 Fri she needs to be removed. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: This has nothing to do with this situation. They don't want whoever wins Miss America to advertise for a competitor of their sponsors. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:05:56 06/25/21 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Wait so she didn’t break the contact? It’s not sponsoring her they sponsor her platform? So what’s the problem LOL Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:26:49 06/26/21 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Mr. Hempy: “You know Steven, I’m sponsoring $5,000 in scholarships this year (wink wink). There's this one special contestant. She's really doing great things with our, I mean her nonprofit. I’m also going to sponsor her, I mean her platform. I hope you see my money, I mean her, as special as I do." Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:45:24 06/30/21 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: 2.6.4. Good Character. I am of good moral character, and I have not been involved at any time in any act of moral turpitude or behavior that is, or could be, perceived by the State or Local Organization as contrary to the GOALS AND OBJECTIVES of the Miss America Program or its elements as described in Paragraph 1.1 of this contract and as determined by MAO in its sole and absolute discretion. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:41:13 06/26/21 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: 2.6.6. Prior Conduct. I have never, knowingly or unknowingly, performed any act or engaged in any activity or employment that is or that the State or Local Organization could characterize as dishonest, immoral, lewd, or indecent. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:42:57 06/26/21 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]