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Subject: Re: I asked my parents about going naked at home


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Date Posted: 00:44:29 08/16/25 Sat
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In reply to: Lucia 's message, "Re: I asked my parents about going naked at home" on 07:39:53 08/15/25 Fri

Hi Lucia, I'm Italian too!!! I know well that nudism in Italy is very little practiced, in fact my parents prefer to go on holiday abroad. We will leave for Croatia on Monday. In July I was with my

grandparents on the French Riviera. However, we are lucky because just over an hour's drive away we have one of the few nudist beaches in Italy and we go there for day trips. Unfortunately we also happen to go to normal beaches: there I am almost always the only naked kid. My parents don't give me the choice: my swimsuit always stays at home or in the hotel.
Even my dad says I'm lucky to be able to be naked on all the beaches and that next year that might not be the case anymore. It would be nice to meet your children at the beach. Being the only naked person on the beach (small children don't count) makes me feel embarrassed. If my 8 and 11 year old cousins are there I feel better. I'll ask you some questions: - When at the beginning of the day at the beach you take off only your younger child's swimsuit, is he ashamed of being the only one naked? - Have your children ever met their friends on the beach?

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Date Posted: 10:33:19 08/16/25 Sat
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>Hi Lucia, I'm Italian too!!! I know well that nudism
>in Italy is very little practiced, in fact my parents
>prefer to go on holiday abroad. We will leave for
>Croatia on Monday. In July I was with my
>
>grandparents on the French Riviera. However, we are
>lucky because just over an hour's drive away we have
>one of the few nudist beaches in Italy and we go there
>for day trips. Unfortunately we also happen to go to
>normal beaches: there I am almost always the only
>naked kid. My parents don't give me the choice: my
>swimsuit always stays at home or in the hotel.
>Even my dad says I'm lucky to be able to be naked on
>all the beaches and that next year that might not be
>the case anymore. It would be nice to meet your
>children at the beach. Being the only naked person on
>the beach (small children don't count) makes me feel
>embarrassed. If my 8 and 11 year old cousins are there
>I feel better. I'll ask you some questions: - When at
>the beginning of the day at the beach you take off
>only your younger child's swimsuit, is he ashamed of
>being the only one naked? - Have your children ever
>met their friends on the beach?

Hi Matteo,

I assumed from your name that you were Italian. I was going to ask you, but then I forgot to mention it in the other post. It's nice to chat with an Italian! I'm happy to hear that other Italian parents feel the same way as my husband and I do. Every country has its own culture; what's "normal" here might be strange in another country, and vice versa.

I love Croatia! It's beautiful! We've been there twice, last year and in 2023. The first year we went to the island of Krk, and last summer we went to Valalta. My kids were very happy because there are many more naked kids on the beach there (even kids my kids' age, not just the very young ones), and they're all much more relaxed about nudity.
I hope you have a relaxing holiday and feel more and more comfortable with nudity on the beach. I know it can be embarrassing in front of classmates or boys/girls your age (sometimes), but trust me, you're lucky (as are my two kids). If I were your parents, I'd still bring your swimsuit to the beach with us (just in case, you never know), even tough I wouldn't make you wear it, like they do. Until they're "obviously" puberty, it's fine for children to be naked on the beach, regardless of age.
I agree with your parents and what your dad said. Try to enjoy this last summer as much as you can. It could be your last naked summer, and while you might be less embarrassed in your swimsuit, you might also regret it. I can imagine the presence of your two cousins makes you feel better. Great!
Wow! You're lucky to live so close to a nude beach! What a dream! You can't tell me the name of the beach, can you?

I've never been to the French Riviera; it must be beautiful. When I was a girl, it was said that the French were very relaxed about nudity on the beach. I don't know now.

I think it would be nice if you and my two sons could spend a day at the beach together. Seeing a boy, Italian like them, a little older than my eldest, naked like them would make them feel even more at ease than they do now. They certainly wouldn't make comments or make fun of you for your developmental delay. You'd just think about playing and having fun. That would be great!

To answer your two questions:

Tommaso (my youngest son) is very comfortable with nudity (for now, who knows when he's older he will be ashamed, but now he's happy and as soon as we have finished setting up the beach umbrella, he undresses right away, without me having to do it), so he's not ashamed. The first few times, however, he asked me why he was naked while Francesco (my eldest son) kept his swimsuit on. We explained the reason to him, and since almost always, a few minutes later, Francesco is naked too, it doesn't cause him much of a problem. Maybe when he's 12 or 13 and his brother has a swimsuit he'll be ashamed of being the only one naked, but for now he's comfortable with it.

We don't usually go to very crowded beaches (Rimini, Milano Marittima, Sestri Levante, Forte dei Marmi, Lignano Sabbiadoro, Cinque Terre, Lido di Ostia, etc...). We look for small, isolated, wild beaches, so it's very unlikely we'll run into any of their friends. But it's happened.

We once met a soccer buddy of Tommaso's. He was with his little brother who was naked, while Tommaso's friend was wearing a swimsuit. He was surprised that Tommaso was naked and asked him if he wasn't ashamed. My son shrugged and said no, though I thought he looked less comfortable than usual. And he was even more surprised that Francesco was naked too. However, after a couple of other comments, they started playing together and got along well. His mother tried to convince him to take off his swimsuit like his brother and friends, but he refused, and his mother didn't push him any further.

The episode that happened to Francesco was more embarrassing. Yesterday, "Ferragosto," we went to eat at my best friend's house. She has a house on the hill, with a large plot of land surrounded by a hedge that provides a certain peace and privacy. We had a barbecue, and then the kids played water fights war ("gavettoni"). She has two boys, like me, only younger (9 and 11). Her children and mine were naked all day (it was also very hot). It was all very fun and relaxing until, in the early afternoon, after lunch, during the water fights war, a friend of my friend arrived with her husband and daughter. They weren't expected to arrive; my friend hadn't told me anything, and she also seemed surprised by their arrival. Knowing that in addition to their house in the city, they have this house on the hill and that if they're not at the beach, they spend "Ferragosto" there, they stopped. They weren't sure if anyone was home, so they just tried, since they had to take that route to get home from lunch outside anyway. After the greetings and good wishes, my friend told her friend's daughter to go behind the house where the boys were playing "gavettoni" and have fun with them. Only since it was normal for them to be naked, she didn't think to warn the girl who ran behind the house. I can't tell you whether the girl's surprise or the boys' embarrassment was greater. We heard screams and calls for mommy... OMG... She's a classmate of Francesco's! The boys asked if they could get dressed, but since they were very wet and the girl had already seen everything, there wasn't much point in doing so, so we told them no. At first, they were all very embarrassed, but the more time they spent playing naked, the more comfortable they became. Only Francesco continued to play, keeping one hand covering his penis. He came to me a couple of times to beg to at least let him wear his underwear, but I told him that she had seen everything by now, that he was wet and to stop holding his hand down there. Eventually he gave in and took his hand away and played like the others. His classmate smiled and continued to stare at his penis, which caused her to lose many water fights because she was "distracted." When she got home, she told us it had been the best day of her life, that she never thought she'd be playing with four naked boys, including a middle school classmate. That it had been like a beautiful dream.
I assure you, Francesco was very, very embarrassed at first; he was almost in tears when I forbade him to wear underwear. But eventually he got used to it—a little, not much, but he got caught up in the game and "forgot" he was naked in front of his classmate (though it was clear he wasn't completely at ease like he was when there were just four of them). I'm sure if we did it again tomorrow, his embarrassment would be less, and within a few sessions, he'd be completely at ease. You prepubescent children should be naked at home and on the beach. It's good for you.

I wish you a great holiday in Croatia and look forward to hearing from you when you return (I don't think you'll be able to post from there...)

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Date Posted: 11:52:55 08/16/25 Sat
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Wow, what an embarrassing situation for Francesco! I totally understand! But did his classmate stay dressed? Didn't she get wet from the water bombs? Did Francesco say anything to you about yesterday?

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Date Posted: 13:52:12 08/16/25 Sat
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>Wow, what an embarrassing situation for Francesco! I
>totally understand! But did his classmate stay
>dressed? Didn't she get wet from the water bombs? Did
>Francesco say anything to you about yesterday?


Hi Matteo,

I just read your other post on the "Mistaken for a Small Child" thread where you talk about your high school friend.
We're talking about a middle school classmate here, but I'm sure and I believe you when you say that "you totally understand" how embarrassed Francesco was.

Yes, her classmate stayed dressed. She hadn't expected to have to play water games and didn't have a change of clothes with her. She was too embarrassed not only to undress naked like the boys, but even to be in her underwear. Yes, by the end, she was wet, and her light-colored T-shirt had become semi-transparent, revealing the tiny bra she was wearing underneath. Her jeans were also wet, but obviously you couldn't see anything. She remained in the sun for a while after the games and, thanks partly to the sun and partly to the towel lent by my friend, when she got into the car to go home in the evening, she was almost dry.

On the drive home and then during his evening bath, we (Francesco and I) talked about what had happened.
Luckily, I have a great relationship with him, and he always tells me everything.
He confirmed to me that he was incredibly embarrassed when his classmate arrived in the courtyard of the house. That he was very angry with me because I hadn't let him put on his underwear. She asked him a lot of questions, about how he felt being naked in front of her, if he wasn't ashamed, if it was the first time or if he did it often to play naked with his brother and friends, she asked him several times to take his hand away to let her see his penis better. As he said this he blushed a little, but I told him not to worry. I told him that I had been very proud of him, that I was happy that in the end he had played naked with his classmate, behaving freely as when they were all boys.
I understood his embarrassment, but it was another step towards accepting nudity and it was like on the beach when we met girls and boys his age.
He said things were different with her, that in September they'd be in the same class every day again, and that he hoped she wouldn't tell her other classmates about what had happened. I told him I'd call the girl's mother. Unlike your classmate, he told me that she never tried to touch his private parts, but after he removed his hand from his penis to play more freely, more than once she moved very close to him to get a better look. In one of these, she noticed the small, short, sparse tufts of blond pubic hair crowning his small penis (which she hadn't noticed while they were playing) and commented: "WOW, Francesco! You have pubic hair! I never would have guessed! And your penis and balls are like Paolo's (my friend's 11-year-old son)..." which made him very embarrassed and made him blush. "But it's very cute, I didn't imagine it like that... please let me see a little better... Can I come closer?" she added, increasing his embarrassment.
But he also told me that in the end he was much less embarrassed, almost (but not quite) at ease. This confirms the impression I had expressed in my previous post: you prepubescent boys should always be naked at home and at the beach. Even in front of your sisters or female cousins/friends/classmates. This would boost your self-esteem, your physical and mental health, and promote harmonious development. At the cost of some initial embarrassment (or some particularly embarrassing occasions) but this would gradually diminish with practice.
Even though Francesco told me that the initial embarrassment was very great and he doesn't know if he would feel like seeing her again soon with him naked and her dressed...

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Date Posted: 14:05:59 08/16/25 Sat
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How did the other three children react? Anyway, I thought the girl should be undressed too, so they were all equal.

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Date Posted: 14:31:38 08/16/25 Sat
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>How did the other three children react? Anyway, I
>thought the girl should be undressed too, so they were
>all equal.

Hi Matteo,

I agree with you, the girl should have been undressed too and played naked with the other four boys; they should all have been the same.
If she had been my daughter, I would have made her undress. If we had been in my house, I would have tried to convince her mother that it was my house rule.
But since she wasn't my daughter and it was someone else's house, I didn't have much of a chance. I tried telling her, "Look how happy the boys are when they play naked," but it had no effect. Her mother actually told her to take off her clothes so she wouldn't get wet, but she didn't want to. When her T-shirt started to get really wet and become partially see-through, her mother repeated the invitation, but she insisted on staying dressed. So her mother gave up and didn't say anything else, and she stayed dressed until the evening.

How did the other three children react?
Paolo (my friend's 11-year-old son) was also very embarrassed. Then, after the girl's comment comparing his penis to Francesco's, his embarrassment increased even further. He and Francesco were the ones who most insisted that their mother and I let them wear underwear.
The two youngest, perhaps because of their age or perhaps because the girl was more interested in Francesco's penis (and secondarily Paolo's), were much more at ease. They immediately called their mother, too, covering their little penises with their hands. Then, reassured by us that everything was fine, they almost immediately removed them and went back to playing and running carefree, without ever covering themselves.

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Date Posted: 14:41:01 08/16/25 Sat
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As far as you know, are Paolo and his brother also used to being naked on the beach?

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Date Posted: 14:59:30 08/16/25 Sat
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>As far as you know, are Paolo and his brother also
>used to being naked on the beach?

Hi Matteo,

Paolo and his brother are always naked at their house and in the courtyard of their house on the hill. Every time I've seen them, they've always been naked; I don't think I've ever seen them dressed... lol...

At the beach, it's different. If the beach isn't crowded, then they're naked; if there are other children "as old as them" naked, then they're naked too. But they've never been the only ones naked on the beach, or the oldest ones, like my sons have been. Let's say they're "nudists," but not always. My kids are naked much more often than they are

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Date Posted: 13:01:03 08/16/25 Sat
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We were in Croatia three years ago (even seven years ago, but I don't remember much, I was little) and spent a day in Valalta. I think we'll go again this time. We rented an apartment near Rijeka and will change locations every day. I hope to always go to nudist beaches or resorts, so I'm not the only one naked. I keep thinking about Francesco and the shame he felt when he showed his dick to a classmate. If he's still a little embarrassed, just tell him that a guy born in 2010 (me) experienced the same thing a few days ago. The nudist beach we have, just over an hour from home, is in Lido di Dante, near Ravenna.

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Date Posted: 14:05:22 08/16/25 Sat
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>We were in Croatia three years ago (even seven years
>ago, but I don't remember much, I was little) and
>spent a day in Valalta. I think we'll go again this
>time. We rented an apartment near Rijeka and will
>change locations every day. I hope to always go to
>nudist beaches or resorts, so I'm not the only one
>naked. I keep thinking about Francesco and the shame
>he felt when he showed his dick to a classmate. If
>he's still a little embarrassed, just tell him that a
>guy born in 2010 (me) experienced the same thing a few
>days ago. The nudist beach we have, just over an hour
>from home, is in Lido di Dante, near Ravenna.

Hi Matteo!

WOW, Valalta, you too... you're right to wander around and not stand still, it's much better to see various beaches. There are many nudist or clothing-optional beaches there.

As I wrote in response to the other post, Francesco was quite comfortable at the end of "Ferragosto", but he told me (and I wrote to you) that he was very awkward and doesn't ready to see his classmate again anytime soon (if he's naked and she's dressed again).
So we can say he's still a little embarrassed… and I'll pass your message on to him. He was born in early October 2012, which is why I wrote that he's almost 13.
Is she the high school classmate who tried to touch your private parts at the beach?

wow! I know the beach of Lido di Dante, near Ravenna… We've been there too… we live in Emilia Romagna (although for privacy reasons I can't tell you which city)

Happy holidays in Croatia!

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Date Posted: 14:22:49 08/16/25 Sat
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Yes, last week I met a high school friend and I have the same concern as Francesco: she'll tell someone at school. She touched me several times in the water.

Wow! We're from the same region. There's one thing I don't like about Lido di Dante: many parents from the regular beach take their kids for a walk in their swimsuits, and the kids often stare. Does that bother your kids?

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Date Posted: 14:51:48 08/16/25 Sat
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>Yes, last week I met a high school friend and I have
>the same concern as Francesco: she'll tell someone at
>school. She touched me several times in the water.
>
>Wow! We're from the same region. There's one thing I
>don't like about Lido di Dante: many parents from the
>regular beach take their kids for a walk in their
>swimsuits, and the kids often stare. Does that bother
>your kids?

Hi Matteo,

Exactly. As I wrote, in addition to the great embarrassment, Francesco's fear is that his classmate, when they return to school in September, will tell her friends everything she saw and that all the girls in the class will make fun of him. I called the girl's mother and explained the situation in detail, telling her to be very firm on this point with her daughter.

Can I ask you how you felt when she touched you in the water? Angry? Hurt? Offended? Humiliated? Embarrassed? Or what? What did she say while she touched you?
Did you get an erection? Of course, you can not answer if it brings back embarrassing memories.
Luckily she didn't touch him, but a couple of times, to get a better look, as she said, she bent over with her face a few centimeters from his penis and balls. Very embarrassing for him!

WOW! What a coincidence! You're also from Emilia Romagna! My kids will be happy to know there's a boy a little older than them who lives in the same region and shares their experiences. Great!

When we were at Lido di Dante, luckily there weren't many parents from the regular beach walking on the shore with their children in swimsuits. However, in fact, aside from the beautiful beach and pine forest, there are often people in bathing suits (and even parents with kids) who, while walking, enter the naturist area. And you're right, very often children stare much more than adults. When the kids who stare are about the same age as mine or are girls, then my two children are quite uncomfortable. Yes it bothers them as well as making them embarrassed.

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Date Posted: 15:13:26 08/16/25 Sat
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I'm writing you my last message for today because I have to turn off my phone and go to sleep. I felt humiliated because my partner kept calling me a child. She had an inflatable mattress, and we'd play with each other, climbing on it. I'd climb in first, and she'd help me, pushing on my butt. Then she'd climb in behind me and hold on to me: she'd put one hand on my belly and the other on my penis.

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