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[> Re: I have a question for all these photo contest directors. Do you use the same judges every other month and are they all from your home state? Have you ever used judges from other states around the US? It just seems that the same kids win with different pictures which doesn't look good on your part. -- Anonymous, 22:43:40 02/24/04 Tue

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[> Re: Do not enter Liberty Dolls unless you have BTK pics. -- Anonymous, 08:24:02 11/11/03 Tue

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[> [> Every winner has been a BTK. The last winner is beautiful, but should have won the first month with her other pics. The other 2 winners were not the best at all. We will never do this one. -- Anonymous, 13:31:13 11/12/03 Wed

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thanks -- No name, 00:12:15 11/02/03 Sun
The things that are up these days - - let me be me and you be you --

1. I will never tell you what I think you should do with your child and how to dress her/him. Please return the courtesy.

2. I will never bash you or your child. Please return the courtesy.

3. I will never say that you stole my child's pro-am moves (everyone knows all the moves - it's just a matter of where they are placed in the routine). Please return the courtesy.

4. I will never post under your child's banner negative hurtful remarks. Please return the courtesy.

5. I will never make comments behind your back while pretending to be your friend. Please return the courtesy.

6. I will never put you down for the choices that you have made for your child. Please return the courtesy.

7. I will never say that my child is better than yours. ALL CHILDREN are Beautiful in their own way. Please return the courtesy.

8. I may not be happy that my child did not win Queen today but please don't rub your win in my face. Please return the courtesy.

9. I don't want to know who you coach with, who makes your dresses or who took your pictures. Please return the courtesy by NOT probing my child for answers to those questions.

10. I will never look through your pictures without asking your permission first. After all they are your private property. Please return the courtesy.

11. I will never go up to a director and complain that your child did not deserve to win. Please return the courtesy.

12. If I have a problem with you, I will be happy to discuss it with you in an adult manner, away from the pageant and our children. Please return the courtesy.

13. Please do not subject my child to your rantings and ravings. On any given day any child can win, maybe today was not your child's day but please don't spoil it for the child who did win. Please return the courtesy


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Anything and everything is possible. We won an overall photogenic at a National Pageant with a local photographer's picture.

Have a nice night and thanks for letting me vent.


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Princess of NC is an AWESOME system!!!! At least here in Catawba County that is. Pete and Penny Zucco give WONDERFUL prizes,and are GREAT people inside and out of pageants. We actually have their Princess of Hickory coming up in 8 days (10-25-03). I think Steve and Susan are great people as well. To me, this system is just all around good!!!! (NT) -- Melanie, 19:45:34 10/17/03 Fri
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Yes I do know what I am talking about (Click In) -- No name, 20:53:13 10/30/03 Thu
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Please, so you are telling me that this happened both times. No one is blaming Susan and Steve but I doubt they handled it. WE WANT WHAT WE PAY FOR! (NT) -- No name, 07:36:49 11/01/03 Sat
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Princess of Wilson did also, and it is directed by the same person and Johnston County (NT) -- No name, 20:23:48 11/01/03 Sat
HMMMM, so I guess the crown company messed up AGAIN. (NT) -- No name, 08:10:24 11/02/03 Sun
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I think you are full of it. Just because you sign your name doesn't mean its not a bash. I have seen your name on plenty of crap that could be taken as bashes. get over yourself! (NT) -- No name, 07:59:05 11/02/03 Sun
I am pretty sure that Penny Zucco is, was, and will be what most directors can never accomplish!! An honest person who loves pageantry, and her kids involved in her pageants. Year after year they change, yet I think thre is noone that can say they went to Penny for something and she didn't give it her all. IF Penny says something to or about someone, she is making a TRUE point,and can't be called wrong by many people. Penny is one of the greatest!! "No name" what can people say about you? (NT) -- Melanie, 13:29:12 11/02/03 Sun
You just kiss her ass because your kid won her pageant. Lets see how she does at the "REAL" Hickory pageant!!! (NT) -- No name, 13:59:28 11/02/03 Sun
Well if thinking highly of someone is ass kissing, then I am at fault. BUT I can assure you of one thing and thats I will think highly of many people in the pageant world, wheather my daughter wins or looses. And yes, do come and watch my daughter at Hickory. She's a spectacular show :0) (NT) -- Melanie, 14:15:55 11/02/03 Sun
You GO MEL!!!! Courtney is awesome and everyone will see in 2 weeks, won't they!! How dare you people come on here and bash an innocent 5 year old. She deserves every win that she gets (NT) -- Sarah, 16:36:34 11/02/03 Sun
Who are you "No Name" and what is your problem. I think you are an evil person and I hope I never meet you. I WILL make it a point to meet Penny Zucco, though. (NT) -- No name, 17:22:03 11/02/03 Sun
done it for years -- ATTENTION, 20:30:08 11/02/03 Sun
And the director's children of LMNC don't compete at state??? lol (NT) -- No name, 19:36:38 11/03/03 Mon
Courtney is awesome! it has nothing to do with her mom knowing anyone. Courtney does an awesome job She's a doll! (NT) -- No name, 21:05:35 11/02/03 Sun
There is no reason for this nonsense.This is a very "fair" pageant & directs everything toward the child,not clothes, etc. Sorry that you have very expensive clothes but the clothes are not being judged.This is not "feeling sorry" for anyone. You need to stop, take a deep breath and listen to what you are saying. Pageants should be a fun time for everyone....whether you win or not....it is not about YOU! All children are beautiful and everyone is a winner....do like I do...stop at CLAIRES, buy a tiara to take with you,that way your child will leave with a crown! I've done it plenty of times:} (NT) -- No name, 21:09:01 11/02/03 Sun
You Go COURT!You will ROCK AT HICKORY!!!! MMM (NT) -- No name, 21:09:28 11/02/03 Sun
talk about what goes around comes around, eh? lol looks like somebody is reaping what they been sowing. (NT) -- No name, 21:25:51 11/02/03 Sun
Princess Of NC Pageant -- No name, 20:50:47 11/02/03 Sun
PONC -- No name, 19:15:35 11/02/03 Sun
I am the original poster and I have heard what I needed to know. As far as the crowns go I was told that either 4 in round crowns or ADJUSTABLE CROWNS (aka tiaras in their explanation) were to be given, and that they COULD not be over 4 in...I was wanting to hear positive nad neg about the systmem and the year in reign...not about directors (NT) -- No name, 20:29:50 11/02/03 Sun
The Zucco's Child did not win at the State Pageant This Year! They do 3 prelims for Susan & Steve. If it was rigged, don't you think she would have won? Grow up NO NAME! Princess of North Carolina is a GREAT SYSTEM!!!!! (NT) -- No name, 05:52:16 11/03/03 Mon
Take A Preliminary To The Princess of North Carolina! (Read Link) Go to their website www.princessofnc.com -- No name, 06:36:05 11/03/03 Mon
Oh Please, you need over a 100 contestants to win $10,000.00, PONC has NEVER, EVER, had any where near that number, more like 20 or 30. For 200.00 more I'd rather do LMNC and have a chance of winning the $10,000. The only girls who do PONC are the girls who can't win LMNC. (NT) -- No name, 08:20:03 11/03/03 Mon
Is that the way it goes? Or is the that LMNC girls can't win at PONC? I happen to know of 2 PONC girls that are about to bust LMNC WIDE open!!! (NT) -- No name, 08:49:39 11/03/03 Mon
I think you have a real problem. You have gone from bashing me, which is fine, I'm a big girl and can over-look you, but when you start saying ugly things about our children, that's where the buck stops! You know nothing about our children or the children that compete in PONC. I'm sure LMNC would not want YOU associated with them either! I feel sorry for someone like you. I really do. I'll say an extra prayer for you tonight even though you don't leave your name, God knows who you are! May God Bless You, because if anyone needs it, it's you. (NT) -- No name, 09:08:13 11/03/03 Mon
This is my first post and I will tell you real quick that I am the mother who showed her butt not because my child didn't win but because I know she deserved to place and didn't!!! Girls placed who did not over my child who did not even have their hair brushed. Susan even told me that her judges made decisions that she didn't agree with. So if you are going to say that I posted something make sure you know I did it!!! (NT) -- Dana, 09:20:38 11/03/03 Mon
This system is truely a system for beginners. Click in -- No name, 09:15:21 11/03/03 Mon
Yes, I know of a "Queen" this year who was forced to give up their title because she wouldn't give up her other state title. I hold no grudges against any of these people. I believe the Zucco's are very kind but the truth of the matter is no matter what the prelim directors act like they don't run the show. I don't show my butt because my child doesn't win, I show my butt because she received a 19 and no explanation of it but received a 23 and got comments like need to smile for. Tell me how that is, you can give a negative comment for a 23 but not a 19 which considerably lower!!! (NT) -- Dana, 09:30:20 11/03/03 Mon
Oh by the way, the girl who won in my daughters age division was very pretty and I am sure that she deserved it. So don't say I was mad because my daughter didn't win. Unless you haven't gotten both sided of the story you don't know. And obviously, you don't have both sided because I haven't discussed this with you. (NT) -- Dana, 09:47:57 11/03/03 Mon
What exactly do you mean by "no matter what the prelim directors act like they don't run the show'? Click in... -- No name, 10:07:15 11/03/03 Mon
Penny - click in -- Dana, 11:17:25 11/03/03 Mon
Penny, I did not say that your child was a beginner nor did I make any post that my name is not associated with. I will sign my name because I am grown and if I have something to say I will say it. What I have posted has my name on it. (NT) -- Dana, 12:11:32 11/03/03 Mon
You're right, Dana, I didn't have any control at State and nor should I or anyone else have, other than the State Directors. And you are correct in the statement that "People tend to hear what they want to hear regardless of there being two sides to every story. That's why people should listen to these bashes, and try a pageant themselves before making up their minds about it. (NT) -- No name, 12:13:13 11/03/03 Mon
Correction: That's why people SHOULDN'T listen to these bashesand try a pageant themselves before making up their minds. (NT) -- No name, 12:15:06 11/03/03 Mon
Thank you, Penny. As far as I am concerned, this thing ended months ago. (NT) -- Dana, 12:22:14 11/03/03 Mon
Then, Dana, you're a first class pageant mom! Vent to the persons involved and then let it go! (NT) -- No name, 12:32:55 11/03/03 Mon
Dana, A MESSAGE FOR YOU: Click IN -- Susan, 19:05:34 11/03/03 Mon
First of all if I posted it, it has my name on it!!!! And I know who they were talking about because I know what I did and that I said some thing that should have been let go. I don't know anything about LMNC because my daughter has never competed. So check into other people posting bad things about PONC because it wasn't me posting all of that other crap. Evidently someone else besides me got mad. I am the type who will say what is on my mind and let people know I said it. I don't try to hide my identity because I am the only one who controls Dana!! (NT) -- Dana, 11:58:08 11/04/03 Tue
Correction, a queen was asked to give up another state title or give up the PONC title. Susan, what I have posted has my name on it because I answer to no one except for myself. That other stuff I did not post. As far as me assuming it was me they where talking about, I know what I said and my daughter immediatly started proam modeling after PONC state. My daughter has never competed at LMNC and I know next to nothing about that pageant system, so as far as that goes someone else posted it. Evidently, I wasn't the only one who have had issuses. (NT) -- If it has my name, then yes I posted it. If it doesn't, then I didn't. That simple. Someone has been talking and is hasn't been me. This is over and has been for months. - Dana, 12:13:06 11/04/03 Tue
AWWWW!!!! Susan's feelings are hurt! (NT) -- No name, 19:21:36 11/04/03 Tue

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LITTLE MISS NC PREIMS -- No name, 19:05:47 11/03/03 Mon
OK-WHAT PRELIM IS THE VERY BEST TO DO AND WHICH ONES SHOULD I STAY AWAY FROM?


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All of them!!!!!! Prev LMNC pageant mom who knows (NT) -- No name, 14:25:12 11/04/03 Tue
LMNC , from my experience, if you weren't invited, by a LMNC "person" then you're not welcome. (NT) -- No name, 14:29:27 11/04/03 Tue
Little Miss Prelims-Hickory -- No name, 16:11:12 11/04/03 Tue

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i JUST SAW AND READ THE POSTS BELOW ABOUT CINDERELLA -- No name, 08:17:30 03/27/03 Thu
PLEASE TELL ME WHAT STATES YOU ALL ARE FROM. WE WERE THINKING ABOUT DOING IT IN FLORIDA AND NOW I NOT SURE WE WANT TO.


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We are from Louisiana. (NT) -- Ex-Cinderella Mom. And I stress EX!, 10:22:16 03/27/03 Thu
Any large system have some issues -- current Cinderella family, 12:48:14 03/27/03 Thu
You are correct. All systems have imperfections because they are run by people and people are not perfect. However, it appears that Cinderella have quite a few problems and problem people starting from the top of the organization's leadership, to State Directors, to local Directors to rude moms. (NT) -- No name, 17:36:49 04/08/03 Tue
Please Read This IMPORTANT Message Concerning Cinderella! -- EX EX Cindy Mom, 21:10:56 03/27/03 Thu
This sounds like my state, Tennessee! Is it? Everybody in Tennessee Cinderella talk crap about people in other programs! Cinderella has gotten a bad name and deserves it. -- No name, 10:20:48 03/28/03 Fri
This is Cinderella in Utah--- totally fixed and the winners are the girls and families who have known the director the longest and the best! Total ripoff and then they have the nerve to gossip about everybody else! Shame on them! (NT) -- No name, 15:15:23 03/30/03 Sun
Tennessee Cinderella -- No name, 17:49:43 04/28/03 Mon
We have had horrible experiences with a local director from a western state, R.A. She would call and call and try to get us to do Cinderella and when I said that we had found another program we liked better, she started yelling at me and badmouthing the other program. I don't need this attitude! (NT) -- No name, 09:35:52 03/31/03 Mon
This is the original poster supporting Cinderella. If your daughter is good then you can do it. If she sucks then find something else to do. Cinderella is only for those "quality" girls! -- No name, 13:15:01 03/31/03 Mon
Whats the matter with you.... IF SHE SUCKS? what kind of a thing is that to say to somebody. I think competition has gone to your head. Find something more important to rant and rave about. (NT) -- No name, 17:12:36 03/31/03 Mon
This woman obviously is mentally ill and I question her ability to accurately report anything. "Quality girls"? Are you nuts? In our State Cinderella is definitely for new kids and not experienced girls. (NT) -- No name, 18:16:22 04/01/03 Tue
CINDERELLA IN ARKANSAS -- No name, 21:43:53 03/31/03 Mon
I need to reply to the past two responses: Only "quality" girls do Cinderella? In my book, "Quality" doesnt require me to smooch the State Directors ass & have lots of money. That is how Arizona works! Complaining to the "higher ups" as Arkansas suggests, does NOTHING! We TRIED to talk to F. Vollman who did nothing except stand up for his directors, did not even look into the allegations. I have said many times before, we were devoted to Cinderella, did everything right, loved the program but found out the nasty truth! If you like it, stay cause sooner or later, you will find out too! (NT) -- No name, 06:55:51 04/01/03 Tue
"Only Quality girls" sounds like a cruel remark about some children saying they aren't quality or up to your standards of what a child should look like. If you are referring to mothers who try to cheet then say that, don't say the girls aren't of high enough quality like your child, that's just not right. (NT) -- No name, 10:33:20 04/01/03 Tue
How do you change State Directors? We asked Mr Vollman about going to Internationals with a different state because of the horrible way our State director acts and were told that we could not do so. We were stuck with the State Director where we lived so we decided that Cinderella was not for us. (NT) -- No name, 10:30:54 04/01/03 Tue
Forget about changing State Directors. I want to change the International Director first. He is pompous, rude and only concerned about the all-mighty dollar. Taht is why he puts up with cheating State and local Directors! (NT) -- No name, 11:43:09 04/11/03 Fri
Cinderella has gotten SO bad in our state that when another "youth program" began last year, they have done EVERYTHING they can to sway people back to Cinderella-including emails BEGGING them to return, offering local directorships and the previous years state queens wardrobe if they would quit the other system! SICKOS! (NT) -- No name, 16:29:49 04/11/03 Fri
Oh, my gosh! I have heard of similar things happening in my state! Isn't that pathetic? I hope that other "youth program" does well and doesn't have to stoop to the level of Cinderella! (NT) -- No name, 16:42:34 04/11/03 Fri
Why doesn't Cinderella in your State just give it up? When you have to e-mail begging people to return and try to give them local directorships to be in Cinderella they are to be pitied. Obviously, they must feel threatened by that other "youth program"! I agree and hope that other program kicks their butts! Imagine, offering the state queens wardrobe to quit the other program! (NT) -- No name, 10:32:54 04/15/03 Tue
Why can't Cinderella accept that people don't respect their groveling? (NT) -- No name, 08:54:31 04/16/03 Wed
I don't see ANYTHING wrong with ANY of this! They NEED to do this cause the other "youth program" might be taking girls away. Any way that you can get girls is fair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- No name, 15:51:45 04/16/03 Wed
You don't see anything wrong with begging and trying to "buy" contestants with local directorships and winning wardrobes? What planet are you from? SO WHAT if the other "youth program" takes some of the girls away?!? I would run the other way too! Far away from Cinderella! (NT) -- No name, 10:19:59 04/17/03 Thu
No, there is NOTHING wrong with getting girls any way you can!!!!!!!!!!!!! That other "youth program" probably sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- No name, 14:10:40 04/17/03 Thu
The "other youth program" is actually awesome, that is why Cinderella is doing everything they can to bribe kids to come back! I applaud the directors of the other system for remaining honest & trustworthy-that is why they are doing SO well. (NT) -- No name, 22:32:38 04/17/03 Thu
That is so awesome! Perhaps finally there is a "youth program" that benefits the girls, not just the directors like Cinderella. (NT) -- No name, 22:51:04 04/19/03 Sat
Get kids however you can! All is fair in pageants! Who cares what Cinderella does to get kids? (NT) -- No name, 13:25:45 04/21/03 Mon
What a terrible attitude! Are you saying that unethical behavior is OK because it is done in the Cinderella pageant? This sort of behavior is a bad example to kids and gives pageant and youth scholarship programs a black eye! Shameful! I hope that the other youth program continues to do well. Good luck to those who are rewarded for their ethical behavior! (NT) -- No name, 08:33:03 04/23/03 Wed
In response to Ex Ex Cindy mom....YOU GO GIRL!!! -- No name, 05:59:42 04/21/03 Mon
I second that! You go girl! At the our State pageant the photographer was shooting nude pictures of one of the judges during the pageant week! At least do it on your own time! What caliber judge is this? Many of the kids found out about this. Drugs were readily available from one of the Royalty mothers (unless she didn't wish to share them on that day). These incidents have been reported but Fred stands up for his state directors because of the money they bring in to him without concern for the best welfare and example for kids. (NT) -- No name, 10:16:48 04/21/03 Mon
For the main poster, I will tell you how judging is done at this pageant, you may change your mind and not go -- No name, 21:06:56 04/21/03 Mon
And to the posted who claims this pageant is for the "NEW" kids, think again...... -- another X cindy mom by choice, 21:19:46 04/21/03 Mon
Some of the State Directors run their programs dishonestly too! (NT) -- No name, 15:52:28 04/22/03 Tue
Love to see this return to the top! Let's have at a "new" "old" topic! (NT) -- No name, 14:48:13 11/02/03 Sun
Same story, different day. Cinderella continues to be crooked and a bad experience on the international level and in many states. That isn't to say that some people may luck out and have a decent experience but on the whole,watch out! (NT) -- No name, 13:39:29 11/03/03 Mon
Please Cinderella is as crooked as it gets - we went to Internationals 2 years ago to watch. OH MY GOD what a joke -- No name, 16:00:22 11/02/03 Sun
I am sure that Cinderella has it faults as do ALL major systems, we did it in NC at Gastonia and had a blast...sure it started late...but they were all so nice nad sweet, way to go Angela Harding and Ms Lowe....we had a great time ! (NT) -- No name, 20:22:42 11/02/03 Sun
Kudos! We also did the Gastonia pageant and it was lots of fun. It's just like anything else in life. IT'S WHAT YOU MAKE IT!!!! If you go into it believing all the negitive things you hear, then you're going to find every little nit-picking thing there is to find wrong with it. NC Cinderella is obviously a step above the rest . (NT) -- No name, 14:59:03 11/03/03 Mon
Cinderella program -- Ohio Mom, 21:12:50 11/04/03 Tue
And the same old story seems to be that at some prelims and states, you can have a good time and the directors try to be honest/fair. But the bottom line is that the organization is not as good as some others and Internationals was way too much $$ for getting absolutely nothing out of it. And feeling like it didn't matter what you did, unless you were in the 'circle' based on your own or directors pull, it just didn't matter. (NT) -- No name, 06:50:50 11/05/03 Wed

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Very Disturbed -- No name, 14:34:23 08/05/03 Tue
Why would a mother Dye a 3 year olds head????????? Why would she continue to tell that poor baby she's fat - stop eating - practice practice practice. Why would no one say anything to this mother!!!!!! This is very very upsetting- This is the type of Mother that gives pageants a bad name.

Please remember these are children-- they have feelings - Winning is not about you!!!! It's about them!!!!


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WHO is this mom?? Where was this scene witnessed and if you were there, why didn't you say something?? (NT) -- No name, 15:05:31 08/05/03 Tue
Mom was from Ohio! and yes I did say something but it basically turned out to - It's my kid and I will do what I want. I just find this very disturbing that I was the only one to say anything and I felt so bad for this baby- yes BABY (NT) -- No name, 15:32:55 08/05/03 Tue
Its not just pageants. I know these poor little girls whos mother has told them they are either fat or ugly sence they were old enough to talk. The told me they were fat and ugly themselve and I told them they were not at all but just the opposite. It just some moms are crazy (NT) -- No name, 19:52:57 08/05/03 Tue
All I have to say is that I am an overweight mother & I DO watch my children, only because I do not want them to be heavy like myself! I never tell them they are fat, I merely remind them of eating habits & try to set a good example for them. As for coloring childrens hair, if you are possibly adding some highlights or a rinse to compliment their natural color (even lemon juice), I feel it is okay but changing the color is not cool! (NT) -- No name, 22:18:55 08/05/03 Tue
Big deal, some colored their kids hair. Do you realize who many kids hair is colored? what makes the difference if its hair color, teeth, falls, tans or whatever. They all do it sister (NT) -- No name, 06:11:47 08/06/03 Wed
What is wrong with using a fall? My daughter has medium length hair but for pageants we use the fall to add some volume and save her NATURAL hair from all the stying and such. (NT) -- No name, 13:00:15 08/08/03 Fri
Well, my mother-in-law is a beautician and she tells me that you should not dye or perm a childs hair who is under 12 otherwise it can permanently damage their scalp and/or hair. I dont know how it could damage it, I never asked. (NT) -- No name, 19:26:37 10/20/03 Mon
OK I know who this witch mother is, she has been caught being nasty to her kid before, and they say she puts her on a diet so she is not so "cherubic" (NT) -- No name, 06:58:07 08/07/03 Thu
Bad mommy -- No name, 11:24:54 08/07/03 Thu
WHAT STATE????? (NT) -- No name, 18:17:00 08/07/03 Thu
Must have been KZ from Ohio, she's got a fat daughter. Takes after the mother. (NT) -- No name, 16:53:57 08/12/03 Tue
Who????????? (NT) -- No name, 03:40:12 08/13/03 Wed
I would never dye my childs hair!Parents should have there head examined! (NT) -- No name, 05:47:53 09/29/03 Mon
This mother should be reported to child protection services. This is clearly child abuse, and it is idiot moms like her that give all of us a bad name. -- No name, 10:11:19 09/29/03 Mon
Actually, coloring your child's hair Cherry Coke Red isn't abusive. It just looks fake. (NT) -- No name, 11:02:33 09/29/03 Mon
Hey, I like cherry coke! I object to that comment! (NT) -- No name, 16:54:26 09/29/03 Mon
You would be nuts to dye your childs hair! (NT) -- No name, 20:03:21 10/05/03 Sun
SD colors her child's hair cherry coke red! Who else does this? (NT) -- No name, 12:26:28 10/07/03 Tue
And Mollie S Bleaches her daughters hair, and April P bleaches her sons hair, who cares and by the way, SD uses a non permanent rinse to even out her daughter hair from playing in the sun, mind you own business (NT) -- No name, 13:34:45 10/07/03 Tue
how many of those 6,7,8,9,10 year olds do you think have blond hair naturally??? lets get real blond sells at the big pageants. I have personally been told I should dye my daughter's hair - but she WINS and WINS BIG with her Auburn Hair and Blue Eyes. Different is good. However if that is the choice that is made - then that is their choice. (NT) -- No name, 13:51:54 10/07/03 Tue
kids are dying their hair these days get a clue! (NT) -- No name, 17:59:32 10/09/03 Thu
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does a 3 year old really need to start dyeing their hair at such a young age? (NT) -- No name, 18:41:38 10/12/03 Sun
real blondes -- No name, 05:59:14 10/21/03 Tue
What Die????? -- No name, 15:59:23 10/20/03 Mon
You people are sick children should not be put through the process of bleaching there hair it bruns your skin. My aunt staRTING BLEACHING HER HAIR WHEN SHE WAS 14 YEARS OLD AND SHE BLEACHED IT SO MUCH THAT BY THE TIME SHE WAS 25 HER HAIR STARTING FALLING OUT SHE NOW HAS TO WEAR A WIG BECAUSE IT IS SO THIN NOW THAT YOU CAN SEE HER SKIN THINK WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO YOUR CHILDREN'S SKIN WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY TO THEM WHEN THER HAIR STARTS TO FALL OUT (NT) -- No name, 19:18:39 10/26/03 Sun
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY WILL SAY ' BUT LOOK AT ALL THOSE BEAUTIFUL CROWNS YOU GOT OUT OF IT" PRETTY PATHETIC HUH? (NT) -- No name, 21:55:48 10/26/03 Sun
I think there is a very LARGE difference between HIGHLIGHTING and BLEACHING a child's WHOLE head! Some people indicated that a mom "bleached her child's hair" when in fact the child received 4 streaks of highlights. I would not bleach my child's entire head, no matter what anyone says, my kids knows she is pretty, she doesnt need platinum hair to be cute! (NT) -- No name, 23:41:58 10/26/03 Sun
You People Have Lost Your Minds. All Of This Just For A Crown.This Is Plain And Simple Abuse.I Think We'll Stick With The Natural Pageants. To Much Fake Stuff In Glitz. (NT) -- No name, 09:52:34 10/27/03 Mon
A 4 YR OLD DOESN'T NEED HIGHLIGHTS OR ANY COLOR CHANGES TO BE CUTE! WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE?????? (NT) -- No name, 04:16:53 10/28/03 Tue
We are new to Gem Stars and we really enjoy this system. The winners all seemed fair and yes my daughter did win, but she did not win the first time we tried it and the little girl who did win, deserved it. They are great directors and they really try and make the kids feel special. They even had a halloween party afterwards, with a bunch of games and prizes. We would recomend this system to anyone!!!!! WE LOVE Gemstars!!!! (NT) -- No name, 13:06:40 10/27/03 Mon

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WHAT IS THE EAST COAST PAGEANT EXPO - CURIOUS the only pageant system that I have even heard of that is going is GK&Q. Who is running this expo -- curiousity killed the cat, 13:22:01 10/26/03 Sun
why is it up with this EXPO
why have I not seen any advertising for it
I live on the East Coast Boards - where is it
who is running this EXPO
does crowning beauties have state pageants
does sweethears have state pageants
any information would be appreciated


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East Coast Expo -- No name, 13:28:43 10/26/03 Sun
thanks lisa for the information (NT) -- No name, 13:34:23 10/26/03 Sun
I though Millinum Glamour & GK&Q were going to be in attendance. I know about GK&Q situation, so what happened to Millinum Glamour? So there is only 2 pageants going on now? also is this pageant put on by the Lisa from AZ (NT) -- No name, 13:35:56 10/26/03 Sun
Glamour Kings & Queens will not be there, I am not sure on the other system, I do know that Star Spangled Sweetheart and Crowning Beauty will be there. The two of them. I believe this lisa was from arizona now in the east coast somewhere. (NT) -- No name, 13:39:03 10/26/03 Sun
That would be correct -- No name, 13:39:49 10/26/03 Sun
Becareful of SSS they just had their State Finals and there was LOTS of Complaints (NT) -- No name, 13:45:29 10/26/03 Sun
Copied from another board... SSS -- click in for more, 11:19:02 10/27/03 Mon
I heard SSS pulled out too. So that just leaves one pageant? (NT) -- No name, 14:01:32 10/26/03 Sun
Thats not true (NT) -- No name, 14:06:21 10/26/03 Sun
systems don't seem very reputable when they pull out at the last minute and leave people hanging, some people actually go out and purchase items just to do a pageant (NT) -- No name, 14:14:42 10/26/03 Sun
Actually it is true. SSS will not be at the Expo either. (NT) -- No name, 17:12:11 10/26/03 Sun
Star Spangled Sweethearts will be attending the Pageant Camp in Kansas City (Got this from one of the boards) (NT) -- No name, 18:05:24 10/26/03 Sun
Click In- Message from SSS (From another board) (NT) -- No name, 18:06:31 10/26/03 Sun
CLICK IN- SORRY FORGOT TO PASTE -- No name, 18:07:32 10/26/03 Sun
? CLICK IN -- No name, 13:23:56 10/27/03 Mon
So since SSS also backed out does that just leave Crowning Beauty for the Expo? Please advise. (NT) -- No name, 08:40:17 10/27/03 Mon
Expo -- No name, 09:10:08 10/27/03 Mon
I have not received a confirmation from Regina or her Director April that she has cancelled her pageant. Here is my e mail address crowningbeauty@comcast.net -- No name, 09:59:16 10/27/03 Mon
So why dis the other 3 pageant systems back out too? Makes me want to know why?? Only leaving one system to do an expo. That is not an expo, mind you. Anyone know why everyone backed out? (NT) -- No name, 21:47:07 10/27/03 Mon
please -- No name, 21:59:24 10/27/03 Mon
starting to see a trend in GK&Q -- No name, 13:57:05 10/27/03 Mon
What many many more are you talking about? shut your face and do something else with your life already- everyone knows the situation with GK&Q. Why dont you sign your name? (NT) -- No name, 21:27:32 10/27/03 Mon
For the record- I was told that Ms Regina will not be having any pageants this year. She will be starting them back up in January. Her other directors will continue to have pageants. Please already knock this BS off.. Bashing GK&Q only made us want to do the system even more. Continue to bash it , it will only bring her more contestants. Grow up ! (NT) -- No name, 21:44:59 10/27/03 Mon
Stop posting to yourself (NT) -- No name, 21:50:19 10/27/03 Mon
well then we will just have to get those other e mails where she cancelled several in Arizona. Lets see there was 2 times that someone supposedly cancelled her room? I doubt that. And of course her brother fell ill during another one. Easily proved she posted to groups. (NT) -- No name, 22:14:09 10/27/03 Mon
WELL THEN PROVE IT bitch (NT) -- No name, 22:33:14 10/27/03 Mon
Your right I can be lets see what I can do do for ya you have cause enough trouble with your lies now lets see what kind of facts we can get for you april (NT) -- No name, 22:38:47 10/27/03 Mon
DO YOU KNOW ME CAUSE I DONT KNOW YOU CHICKEN SHIT - - DO YOU REALLY KNOW WHO I AM - - SIGN YOUR NAME HONEY CAUSE I WILL BE HAPPY TO COME TO AZ TO SEE YOU IN PERSON (NT) -- No name, 22:50:43 10/27/03 Mon
BRING IT ON IF YOU THINK YOU ARE BIG ENOUGH - DOUBT IT (NT) -- No name, 22:51:33 10/27/03 Mon
yes lori and mollie owners of the air it all board - -- yes you are the owners fess up it is amazing that when I posted that you are the owners of the air it all board you erased it pretty fast before someone sees it (NT) -- No name, 08:58:34 10/28/03 Tue
Scroll Down That Post Is Still There. (NT) -- No name, 09:12:15 10/28/03 Tue
Hey Dumb Ass, It's still here, ever here of a scroll down? You must be the accuser cause you are a total fool! Lori & Mollie have MUCH better things to do with their time than moderate this piece of crap! Learn to use a computer & look around before you open your trap! (NT) -- No name, 23:50:54 10/29/03 Wed
As a matter of a fact, it is still there SEVERAL times since you are SO sure of yourself that you posted it MANY times! I would LOVE to know where your "source" is & possibly, if you know SO much & you are SO smart , why are you afraid to sign your name?! WUSSY! (NT) -- No name, 23:53:53 10/29/03 Wed
is that a director writing that (NT) -- No name, 05:29:54 10/28/03 Tue
WELL WHATS GOING ON????????? (NT) -- No name, 07:02:48 10/28/03 Tue
well thats the question of the week -- No name, 13:06:43 10/29/03 Wed
You need to stop -- No name, 16:08:44 10/29/03 Wed
who are you referring to? there are tons of systems out there... (NT) -- No name, 16:58:58 10/29/03 Wed

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thanks -- No name, 00:12:15 11/02/03 Sun
The things that are up these days - - let me be me and you be you --

1. I will never tell you what I think you should do with your child and how to dress her/him. Please return the courtesy.

2. I will never bash you or your child. Please return the courtesy.

3. I will never say that you stole my child's pro-am moves (everyone knows all the moves - it's just a matter of where they are placed in the routine). Please return the courtesy.

4. I will never post under your child's banner negative hurtful remarks. Please return the courtesy.

5. I will never make comments behind your back while pretending to be your friend. Please return the courtesy.

6. I will never put you down for the choices that you have made for your child. Please return the courtesy.

7. I will never say that my child is better than yours. ALL CHILDREN are Beautiful in their own way. Please return the courtesy.

8. I may not be happy that my child did not win Queen today but please don't rub your win in my face. Please return the courtesy.

9. I don't want to know who you coach with, who makes your dresses or who took your pictures. Please return the courtesy by NOT probing my child for answers to those questions.

10. I will never look through your pictures without asking your permission first. After all they are your private property. Please return the courtesy.

11. I will never go up to a director and complain that your child did not deserve to win. Please return the courtesy.

12. If I have a problem with you, I will be happy to discuss it with you in an adult manner, away from the pageant and our children. Please return the courtesy.

13. Please do not subject my child to your rantings and ravings. On any given day any child can win, maybe today was not your child's day but please don't spoil it for the child who did win. Please return the courtesy


I have now had my 2 cents worth. Please excuse my rantings - It is all getting old. People attacking other people over a coach a photo or a win they feel that they feel their child should have.

Please I will use the vendors I choose to use and can afford and you use the vendors you choose and can afford.

Anything and everything is possible. We won an overall photogenic at a National Pageant with a local photographer's picture.

Have a nice night and thanks for letting me vent.


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I agree ; except you should be flattered someone wants to know where you got pics / clothes (but they should ask the ADULT) and also, most of the time, that's how new people learn! Don't be wound so tight... not everybody is an "enemy"! Apparently, you have had some bad experiences and that is too bad. You must be WINNING!!! (NT) -- No name, 08:32:20 11/02/03 Sun
wow food for thought (NT) -- No name, 11:28:25 11/02/03 Sun

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PREDICTIONS! -- Anonymous, 09:40:21 10/26/03 Sun

HOW ABOUT IT LADIES. ANY PREDICTIONS FOR YGTL, BFI, 10+ FACES, AND ANY OTHERS THAT ENDED LAST NIGHT?

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[> Re: PREDICTIONS! -- Anonymous, 04:21:29 10/27/03 Mon

I'm gonna be honest and NO WE AREN"T ENTERED- Based on FACIAL BEAUTY ONLY

BFI
0-5 Kylie

6+ Meagan

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[> [> Re: PREDICTIONS! -- Anonymous, 05:54:57 10/28/03 Tue

OMG I can not BELIEVE WHAT PICTURE WON BFI -

My God what were they thinking

Done with that contest forEVER

BFI - You should think before you yourself pick the winners

what a joke

Glad we didn't enter!!!

I'm Sorry that picture is HORRIBLE! I have seen MANY better pictures of that little girl- this one plain SUCKS

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[> [> [> Re: PREDICTIONS! -- Anonymous, 16:52:24 10/28/03 Tue

and what pic is that you are talking about i think the winners are beautiful sounds like your green lol!!!

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[> [> [> [> Re: PREDICTIONS! -- Anonymous, 03:44:34 10/29/03 Wed

Not at all - I LOVE her picture with the hat- I just don't like the picture they chose. It's not that I'm not glad she won because that's not it at all.

I just can not BELIEVE they picked the T/M Picture! Over the one with the hat

She's a Beautiful girl and deserved to win - just NOT that picture

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[> [> [> [> [> That pix is one of Billy the Kids new pix of hers...its nice and natural even though it beat all the T/M pix and TO pix...maybe it is a new trend but I tell you when I get done paying off my T/M pix I would like to see what BTK can do with my daughter! :) -- Anonymous, 10:46:57 10/30/03 Thu

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[> [> [> [> [> [> I'm sorry I thought you were speaking of TS in TDF...I do agree with your original post about that pix...there is a shadow on the child's face...what's up with that? -- Anonymous, 10:49:32 10/30/03 Thu

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: I'm sorry I thought you were speaking of TS in TDF...I do agree with your original post about that pix...there is a shadow on the child's face...what's up with that? -- Anonymous, 03:47:03 10/31/03 Fri

I have NOOOO Clue No I was speaking about BC. I just don't get it that picture is absolutely HORRIBLE and her others are so good!

Means to me they judge on Photographer not Quality or Child!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: That pix is one of Billy the Kids new pix of hers...its nice and natural even though it beat all the T/M pix and TO pix...maybe it is a new trend but I tell you when I get done paying off my T/M pix I would like to see what BTK can do with my daughter! :) -- Anonymous, 03:48:13 10/31/03 Fri

The Brownone is a BTK? OMG IT'S HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!! SOmeone told me it was a T/M??????

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> No that is a T/M I thought the lady was commenting on $1000 faces -- Anonymous, 05:43:51 10/31/03 Fri

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[> [> Re: PREDICTIONS! -- Anonymous, 16:54:56 10/31/03 Fri

If you kim kaylies mom have a problem with t/m work then e-mail them ok just because your daughter did not win does not mean you can come on here and bash another child GROW UP!!!It seems your the only one who does not like it!!!

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[> [> Re: PREDICTIONS! -- Anonymous, 17:02:13 10/31/03 Fri

I will tell you it is fishey because G doesn't win much in any other photo contests. -- Anonymous, 11:43:56 05/08/03 Thu

She has won almost every time she has been in any of Keri's. Why?????
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[> Ok this has gone on ridiculously too long. -- Anonymous, 12:17:41 05/08/03 Thu

If you would like a list of the wins my daughter has had in the past few months please email me directly. She has won or placed or been an optional winner in MANY contests since she got her new pictures. We are very pleased with the new photos and apparently the judges have been too. She has won supreme or division or optional titles in "The", Darling Images, Most Beautiful Faces, Starquest, Dolls For Dolls, Rainbow, Supermodels, etc. We entered Keri's contests BEFORE she joined the Real Deal. If you don't like the pictures then fine but she has won alot with them recently and we are very happy and her wins have nothing to do with Keri. THANK YOU TONI OVERBY for the beautiful new pictures and thank you to all the photo contest directors we have had the pleasure of being part of!
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[> [> Sorry I hit send too soon. -- Anonymous, 12:18:42 05/08/03 Thu

You can contact me at justgeorgi@aol.com if you have a problem with what she has (or hasn't won) lol!
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[> Have you looked at a board lately? She wins ALOT. Where have you been? -- Anonymous, 12:23:49 05/08/03 Thu

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[> Re: I will tell you it is fishey because G doesn't win much in any other photo contests. -- Anonymous, 12:28:05 05/08/03 Thu

They live in the same state right?Judges also in the same state too?I know there is no way she should have won the grand in that last one.That was such a joke it was a dead give away.
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[> [> Re: I will tell you it is fishey because G doesn't win much in any other photo contests. -- Anonymous, 12:55:05 05/08/03 Thu

Really than who should have Hmmm Maybe your ugly ass kid
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[> [> [> Re: I will tell you it is fishey because G doesn't win much in any other photo contests. -- Anonymous, 13:16:03 05/08/03 Thu

ya know it's okay to defend one child but you don't have to put another child down.
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[> [> [> [> Re: I will tell you it is fishey because G doesn't win much in any other photo contests. -- Anonymous, 13:19:00 05/08/03 Thu

I agree, the problem this person has is with ME, LEAVE the children OUT OF IT! They are ALL beautiful, and ANY of them could win at anytime, your comment was totally uncalled for.

Keri - vze26gzg@verizon.net

I'm still waiting for an email telling me what your problem is.
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[> [> Re: I will tell you it is fishey because G doesn't win much in any other photo contests. -- Anonymous, 12:59:15 05/08/03 Thu

"They live in the same state right?Judges also in the same state too?I know there is no way she should have won the grand in that last one.That was such a joke it was a dead give away."

I have no idea where this child lives, I only know she lives in the north. LEAVE HER ALONE Already!! My judges are NOT all from NY. The 3 contests that this child won, had a total of NINE DIFFERENT Judges, 1 of those judges was from the state of NY, and I highly doubt that he knew this child as he is a LOCAL photographer. And guess what that judge ONLY judged my FREE contest that month.

Again take your problems out on ME, NOT This child. I can't wait to see what you come up with next!

Keri
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[> [> Re: I will tell you it is fishey because G doesn't win much in any other photo contests. -- Anonymous, 16:39:56 05/08/03 Thu

Really then who should have won the grand exactly? You are being so petty. That little girl has AMAZING pictures and they have been winning all over the place. You only bash THIS director? Why is that? Why don't you bash all the other directors for all the other photo contests Georgianna has won recently? Were you only entered in Keri's contests? You know what I think? I think that you are entering the new Dynamic Duo contest and you are just worried that Georgianna will win it too! Stop being so petty and mean!
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[> Re: I will tell you it is fishey because G doesn't win much in any other photo contests. -- Anonymous, 12:31:37 05/08/03 Thu

I have to finally speak up. I can not believe your ignorance! Just PLAIN STUPIDITY!!!!!

Keri is one of the best directors around! Why do you want to start touble with her? Hmmmmm Did her child beat yours or better yet- do you have some type of psycological problems?

and for Georgie- My god Woman that girl is beautiful!!! Give me a break she doesn't need any help with her wins!

I think that you should just get over yourself. No one is gonna bite on your little bash crap- Keri will always be in the top for us and a ton of other people.

If you are so hell bent on bashing her- why don't you sign your name? Hmmmm maybe because you are a little child in some ways and you yourself are afraid of bashing.

Leave Kerri alone - she is a wonderful director and she has great idea's for contests.

and guess what- We have not won her contests in over a year- but we still enter! and yes I have come to defend her from your childish antic's because I can honestly whole heartedly say - you need to get a life!
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[> Re: I will tell you it is fishey because G doesn't win much in any other photo contests. -- Anonymous, 12:45:56 05/08/03 Thu

Ok this is getting ridiculous. You have a problem with ME that is fine, EMAIL ME then, tell me what your problem is because I'm tired of this!

G won because she is a beautiful CHILD with great photo's, LEAVE her OUT of your problems with me. I have not nor will I EVER "let" someone win in one of my contests because of who they are wether I know them or not, PERIOD so get over it!

Like I said before I have met this child ONCE at a pageant almost a year ago, talked to her mom for maybe 15 minutes! We joined The Real Deal not even 2 weeks ago!

Now I do not know for sure WHO you are as of right now there is only ONE person online that I KNOW of that has a problem with ME, and quite frankly that is their own fault. If you ARE this person, then I suggest you stop, you seem to WANT me to tell your dirty little secret. If you are NOT this person, then please EMAIL ME tell me what your problem is, you stated below that I know who you are and what your problem was and I don't so please, DO TELL! BUT STOP TRYING TO DISCREDIT THIS CHILDS WINS! You are UNBELIVEABLE! She is a CHILD LEAVE HER ALONE!!! She won FAIR and square, GET OVER IT!!!

I'm not going ANYWHERE, My contests are here to STAY until I can no longer do them, you can bash ME all you want to just leave this child ALONE!!!

EMAIL ME your problem!
Keri - vze26gzg@verizon.net
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Dynamic Duo -- Anonymous, 18:24:32 05/03/03 Sat

Neat idea but I wish it was ran by someone else. Funny the director's kid just joined the Real Deal and then the coach's best friend keeps on winning all her contests. Fishy to say the least.
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[> Re: Dynamic Duo -- Anonymous, 15:53:34 05/04/03 Sun

What's fishy about it? Has it occured to you that maybe noone better entered???? She finally has some decent pics, leave the kid alone!! The director of this contest is awesome and I can say that because I know, we have entered and won and entered and lost. Find something else to gripe about and leave the GOOD and HONEST contests alone!!!!!!!!
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[> Re: Dynamic Duo -- Anonymous, 16:13:43 05/04/03 Sun

Grow up. This is a good director and I think this is just someone trying to scare off the competition!!!!! This idea is wonderful and would be a lot of fun if people like you would lay off! You don't like the director, then don't enter. But don't ruin it for others!!!!!!!!!!
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[> Re: Dynamic Duo -- Anonymous, 19:37:31 05/04/03 Sun

Fishy? no Coincidence, YES. If you would like to be picky about this here are the facts.

I have met this child once, at a pageant last year. Recently she was entered into 3 of my contests. Yes she won all 3, was this because of me? Not on your life, this child won because she had the face and the photo's that those judges LIKED that month. She entered again in one of them, you failed to mention she didn't win that time, why leave that out? Was it because of me? Not on your life, she just didn't have the look the judges liked that month.

You also failed to mention that all of this took place before I had even decided to get a coach for my daughter. We just joined the real deal LAST WEEK, and guess what? My daughter LOVED IT so we aren't going anywhere. This does not mean that The Real Deal kids can not enter my contests, and if they do it doesn't mean they will win.

If you have a problem with me, or the way I run my contests then you may feel free to say what you will about ME, I'm a big girl - I can take it, but I will NOT sit back and let you discredit this childs wins or any other child who may win in one of my contests. My contests have been and always will be FAIR and HONEST and if this scares you, then your entry will not be missed.

Email me if you have any other concerns - vze26gzg@verizon.net

Keri
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[> [> Re: Dynamic Duo -- Anonymous, 19:40:40 05/04/03 Sun

Whoo Hoo Keri! Count us in this month! We like directors who aren't afraid to stand up to the bashers!
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[> [> Re: Dynamic Duo -- Anonymous, 13:35:02 05/05/03 Mon

Us too!! Got my partner and we're ready to roll. Even got another party ready for next month! Glad you're not letting this ONE person get to you!!
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[> [> [> Re: Dynamic Duo -- Anonymous, 13:36:50 05/05/03 Mon

Oops, should say partner not party
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[> Re: Dynamic Duo -- Anonymous, 16:26:26 05/05/03 Mon

what is the dynamic duo? I thought only NES pageants had that not an online photo contest?
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[> [> Re: Dynamic Duo -- Anonymous, 07:00:19 05/06/03 Tue

It's a new online photo contest that this director came up with. And NES isn't the only one who has a pageant Duo competition, I believe Elite Miss has one also as I'm sure more do too. I think this is such a cool idea and can't wait to see who pairs up for this photo contest!
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[> [> [> Re: PREDICTIONS! -- Anonymous, 14:09:00 11/04/03 Tue

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WOW -- Anonymous, 15:37:06 11/03/03 Mon

YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE? -- Anonymous, 16:55:58 02/05/03 Wed

I HATE WHEN PHOTO CONTESTS LET RUNNERS UP OR SUPREMES OR WHATEVER ENTER THE NEXT MONTH FOR FREE OR HALF OFF. YOU GET THE SAME 10 TOUGH PICS OVER AND OVER AND NEVER ANYONE NEW TO WORRY ABOUT. JUST THOSE SAME ONES THAT KEEP WINNING FREE ENTERY OVER AND OVER AND TAKING TURNS WINNING THE BIG PRIZE, SIT OUT A MONTH (OR ENTER THE NEXT MONTH WITH A DIFFERENT PIC) THEN WIN THE NEXT ONE, OVER AND OVER SAME OLD PEOPLE. SICK TO DEATH OF THE WHOLE PROCESS.
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[> You know what I dislike???...........People like you that do noting but BITCH about everything! If you, yes YOU do not like the way a contest is ran, then find one that suits you and leave us that are having fun alone! -- Anonymous, 18:07:42 02/05/03 Wed

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[> [> Re: You know what I dislike???...........People like you that do noting but BITCH about everything! If you, yes YOU do not like the way a contest is ran, then find one that suits you and leave us that are having fun alone! -- Anonymous, 19:51:00 02/05/03 Wed

Yes indeedy.lol Whoooo hoooo having a blast entering month after month after month. Wheeeee! What fun! Hang on, here goes another....Yippppeeeeeeeeeeee! Whooooooooooo! You should try it sometime. I enter every contest every month and every picture.lol I win, enter free, win, enter free, and watch all the people get pissed off. I just got new pics, I think I will go get more. Hmmmm, instead of the usual 10 looks, I think I will get 20 this time. That will piss off eeeevvvveeerrryyyooonnneee.lol
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[> [> [> Re: -- Anonymous, 22:16:14 02/05/03 Wed

So what exactly would you like ? A contest rif of all good photos so that your mediocre one can have a shot ?

If it's a pity win you're after, enter a pity contest.
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[> [> [> [> that was RID not rif.. obviously. Whiny moms piss me off ! -- Anonymous, 22:17:33 02/05/03 Wed

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Why do some girls have blonde hair yet have black eyebrows? To me that looks horrible. If I were judging someone like that they would get dead last. -- Anonymous, 18:06:15 02/04/03 Tue

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[> Re: Why do some girls have blonde hair yet have black eyebrows? To me that looks horrible. If I were judging someone like that they would get dead last. -- Anonymous, 21:45:20 02/04/03 Tue

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[> [> Re: Why do some girls have blonde hair yet have black eyebrows? To me that looks horrible. If I were judging someone like that they would get dead last. -- Anonymous, 08:49:16 02/05/03 Wed

My family has natural white-blond hair and very dark eyebrows and lashes. Actually my daughter's lashes are coal black, WITHOUT mascara. That's just the way we are and I'm not about to bleach anybody's eyebrows because it'd look terrible. I dont like it when you have to look for eyebrows because they've been bleached to match the hair. Just looks gross to me !
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Big Crown predicts - JMHO -- Anonymous, 20:05:32 02/01/03 Sat

0-1 - Madison (too cute)
2-3 - Delaney (adorable)
4-5 - Victoria (pretty girl)
6-8 - Andi (can't get past those green eyes and those dimples)
9-12 - Ainsley (hands down best pic)
13-16 - Mallory (natural beauty)
17up - Natasha (pretty)
Boys - Auston (cutie)
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[> Re: Big Crown predicts - JMHO -- Anonymous, 15:56:24 02/03/03 Mon

Wow! You should predict more often. I just saw winners and you were right on. Congrats to you!
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[> Re: Big Crown predicts - JMHO -- Anonymous, 20:35:29 02/03/03 Mon

I got them all right except for the 4-5 winner. She is very pretty too so all in all I would say great group of winners! I am so impressed I think I will give this one a try. My daughter will be in the 2-3 and boy was it ever tough this month!
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God forbid I should ask over there everything will be deleted again in 5 minutes. Anyone know why she deleted all the other stuff too?
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[> Re: Hey does anyone know who they were talking about on 21070? -- Anonymous, 21:05:11 02/02/03 Sun

There were several posts a few minutes ago about someone posting their kids name over and over in predictions and a post from Lorinda saying she never predicts contests her kid is in.lolol I don't see those now. There are also some predictions that have been deleted for a couple of photo contests, not sure why. Anyone know who they were bashing earlier?
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[> [> Re: Hey does anyone know who they were talking about on 21070? -- Anonymous, 00:06:07 02/03/03 Mon

Shaenen G's mom was bashing Sam C.
She was caught being a copycat (nobody ever said Shaenen wasn't beautiful) and the only answer mom could come up with was that people shouldnt bash HER daughter and that "For those of you saying SCs is better and she is more beautiful you are full of SH**"

Talk about bashing LOL
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THE photocontest -- Anonymous, 07:05:54 02/02/03 Sun

Predictions anyone?
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[> Re: THE photocontest -- Anonymous, 20:23:19 02/02/03 Sun

My favorite is olivia. She is precious. Anyones game for the personality supreme.
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cash cuties jmo, -- Anonymous, 19:24:57 02/01/03 Sat

Alyssa
Delaney
Meghan
Ainsley
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D4D -- Anonymous, 16:46:10 02/01/03 Sat

Dolls For Dolls
0-23 Britney port Ashlyn
2-4 London port Mikaela
5-7 EmilyJo port Tori
8+ Nicole port Julian
Boys Ian
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Here are my D4D,CC,and BC picks. -- Anonymous, 14:09:15 02/01/03 Sat

Dolls For Dolls
0-23 Britney
2-4 London
5-7 Savannah
8+ Nicole
Boys Ian


Big Crown
0-1 Madison
2-3 Delaney
4-5 Fae
6-8 Andi
9-12 Ainsley
13-16 Mallory
17+ Natasha
Boys
4-5 Tanner
6-8 Austin

Cash Cuties
0-1 Madison
2-3 Delaney
4-8 Megan
9-12 Ainsley
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My predictions. -- Anonymous, 12:14:47 02/01/03 Sat

Dolls For Dolls

0-23 Britney
2-4 London
5-7 Savannah
8 and up Nicole
Boys Austin #2


Big Crown

0-1 Madison #1
2-3 Delaney
4-5 Fae
6-8 Andi
9-12 Ainsley
13-16 Mallory
17 and up Stephanie

Boys
4-5 Tanner
6-8 Austin
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Dolls4Dolls -- Anonymous, 01:13:41 02/01/03 Sat

0-23 Britney
2-4 London
5-7 Savannah
8 and up Nicole
Boys Austin #2


The CA Queen
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[> Re: Dolls4Dolls -- Anonymous, 10:46:28 02/01/03 Sat

The CA Queen ????????WHATS THAT
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Does anyone know how Stunning Faces photo contests are? We are thinking of entering. Thanks -- Anonymous, 17:18:18 01/31/03 Fri

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[> Re: Does anyone know how Stunning Faces photo contests are? We are thinking of entering. Thanks -- Anonymous, 18:53:07 01/31/03 Fri

You and everyone else.that contest is loaded.lol
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[> [> Re: Does anyone know how Stunning Faces photo contests are? We are thinking of entering. Thanks -- Anonymous, 07:34:41 02/01/03 Sat

What do you mean loaded? How about the natural one they are running right now, is that one ok? thanks
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[> [> [> Re: Does anyone know how Stunning Faces photo contests are? We are thinking of entering. Thanks -- Anonymous, 10:24:58 02/01/03 Sat

Both the Main Contest and the Natural contest are low in entries right now. So not as many Contestants as Normal.
The Natural Contest may only run one time. It depends on how much interest it gets this Month. If it gets a lot it will run again. If not this may be the only chance to enter!
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[> [> Re: Does anyone know how Stunning Faces photo contests are? We are thinking of entering. Thanks -- Anonymous, 10:18:10 02/01/03 Sat

The contest is not laoded this Month!It actually is a few contestants short on closing. So it would be a good Month to enter.There are not as many as normal!
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[> Re: Does anyone know how Stunning Faces photo contests are? We are thinking of entering. Thanks -- Anonymous, 10:17:12 02/01/03 Sat

Stunning Faces is one of the VERY best contests we ever did. The director is so nice, helpful and honest. If you are thinking of entering a contest, this one is a must!! My daughter was lucky enough to win and we received the money as soon as we decided what we wanted, lol. I give this contest a major thumbs up!!!
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Big Crown -- Anonymous, 00:53:04 02/01/03 Sat

0-1 Madison #1
2-3 Delaney
4-5 Fae
6-8 Andi
9-12 Ainsley
13-16 Mallory#2 I guess
17 and up Stephanie or Natasha I can't decide

The CA Queen.
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[> Re: Big Crown -- Anonymous, 00:55:55 02/01/03 Sat

Boys
4-5 Tanner
6-8 Austin


The CA Queen
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Any Big Crown predictions? -- Anonymous, 21:37:40 01/31/03 Fri

Any one know when they will post the DD and D4D entries?
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[> Re: Any Big Crown predictions? -- Anonymous, 22:32:53 01/31/03 Fri

D4D has entries posted already. DD doesnt post until after closing ...same like everymonth
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To the lady posting about MC below.... -- Anonymous, 21:50:07 01/31/03 Fri

In order for her to make sure she speaks to YOU, she will have to go around and say Hi to everyone in the ballroom. Does your daughter do that? I don't speak to everyone at pageants do you speak to every single person there? Wait just a second, I have a question for you, did you speak to them? If not, then you are as bad as they are. Forget them....OMG this strange lady would not speak to poor little MC and her mom at a pageant. You would think she would take the time to speak to everyone there so that she would not be bashed on the boards. Geez what nerve. If you did speak to them and they ignored you, then that is a different story. If this happened then we can talk....
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[> Re: To the lady posting about MC below.... -- Anonymous, 21:57:43 01/31/03 Fri

You know this really pisses me off. This girl I work with said she saw me at the mall and I didn't speak to her and was mad. I said, I didn't see you at the mall and asked her where? She told me and I felt bad, I told her I didn't see her. I then said you should have said Hey to me to make sure I saw you and she said I wouldn't look at her so she refused. So then I said wait just a minute, 1st of all if I didn't LOOK at you then you know damn well I didn't see you and 2nd of all if YOU DID SEE me then you are the stuck up one because YOU DID SEE ME and CHOSE and REFUSED NOT to speak to me so lay the hell off me!!!!! And lay off MC for not speaking to you!!!! And for the record I met them at Priceless Moments and then again at Glamour Dolls and they both spoke to me and were very nice. So maybe she thought you were some kind of weirdo since you act like it on here.lol
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[> Re: To the lady posting about MC below.... -- Anonymous, 22:00:20 01/31/03 Fri

I must agree here! I don't know the MC's very well, but my child does compete with MC and they have never been anything but nice to us. She is a little bit hard to read, but as another person said, it's probably because she has been bashed all over these boards. I can't say I blame her for sticking to who she knows. They are nice enough if you talk to them, you'd know that. I won't sign my name in fear of getting bashed myself. But if MC sees this, just know you have a VA friend!! And think back to the beginning, like TDS mini in Bristol, LOL.
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Enchanting Faces... -- Anonymous, 21:40:59 01/31/03 Fri

My choice is the other Megan.lol I like them all!!!!

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A look at the past winners -- Anonymous, 14:11:41 01/31/03 Fri

A friend emailed me a list of the winners and I have to say I will not ever be entering this contest. I had went to look at the entries and it took days to see them all because of the bandwidth problem. There were a few photos that were pitiful and made me glad I did not compete back in those days and there now photos were not much better and none of those were in my top 10 and they won. These were pageant photos and should have had someone that knew a little about pageants judging them. I am sorry but the winners were way way off and this whole thing was a joke. If I was the mom of 4 of these kids I would be pissed. And Taylor should have won more then she did. I know my daughter would have a good shot in a contest like this but not this one because it looks to me like they judged it backwards. The ones that should have been last place won and visa versa. I will be letting my friends know not to enter this one.
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Why is it that LKP,MC,TS,HF and a few others moms are so greedy. They win a contest and the next month they enter a different picture. Is it just greed or stupidity. The contest should have a clause if you win once in the year then you must sit out and give others a chance. Or have a contest for those that have never won over $100.cash in any photo contest. Let's be fair to everyone and quit building the pot for the same kids. -- Anonymous, 18:53:02 01/26/03 Sun

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[> I was thinking the same thing but you beat me to it. Pageant mom of a little one. -- Anonymous, 19:00:32 01/26/03 Sun

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[> [> OH Boo hoo hoo, These kids must Beat your little ones!!!!! -- Anonymous, 17:10:53 01/27/03 Mon

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[> What contest are you referring to? -- Anonymous, 05:58:31 01/27/03 Mon

I don't remember ever seeing MC entered in T$F and since its only one of two I see her in you must be referring to T$F. I haven't seen her entered in to much lately.
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[> Re: Why is it that LKP,MC,TS,HF and a few others moms are so greedy. They win a contest and the next month they enter a different picture. Is it just greed or stupidity. The contest should have a clause if you win once in the year then you must sit out and give others a chance. Or have a contest for those that have never won over $100.cash in any photo contest. Let's be fair to everyone and quit building the pot for the same kids. -- Anonymous, 12:31:21 01/29/03 Wed

I would like to say that we have met MC in person. She acts like a robot & is very clicky & unfriendly to children(unless of course she competes with them every weekend!)and so is her mom(unfriendly). My daughter has competed with MC & my daughter took home a higher title, in a way, I was glad because is it fair for MC to always win? No, & I agree with the photo contest statement that someone wrote:these people shouldnt enter every single one! Give others a chance. And by the way watch how MC walks when she is in her "regular" clothes, she walks on her toes, legs apart & struts like a boy. This was quite a shock to see since she "is the best one in pageants out there!" LOL LMAO!
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[> [> I met Meagen and Mary and you couldn't be more wrong -- Anonymous, 12:47:33 01/29/03 Wed

Meagen was very friendly and her grandmother (not her mom) was nice too.
When you go through as much bashing as Mary has, you start being careful who you talk to and what you say. Everything she says is repeated, deformed and amplified. I would be weary too !! And I would also tell my child not to interact with children/parents she doesnt know.
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[> [> [> Re: I met Meagen and Mary and you couldn't be more wrong -- Anonymous, 06:31:30 01/30/03 Thu

Well Then, you must compete at every pageant with her(them), be a vendor, or a close friend! We were NEWBIES at the time & from out of town and we are very friendly. Neither her nor Meghan cracked a smile at us. We were just sitting there during awards, and Meghan walked over(in front of us, not even politely)to the person sitting next us & starting talking to them & totally acted rude to all of us sitting there. Maybe this is why they get bashed! No one wants to HANG OUT or become best friends with either of them, but for goodness sakes, atleast be polite! Even during line up, the child had her nose in the air. It is sad that she is like that at 6yrs. old. Imagine as an adult??? Oh well, whatever. From now on if we ever are unfortunate to run into either of them OUR NOSES WILL BE UP IN THE AIR & I hope my daughter BEats her again!!!hummmmmmmmm, should we boo MEghan when she is onstage????????????No, we are more respectable than that. Maybe boo her grandma for being a snob but.............
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[> [> [> [> Re: I met Meagen and Mary and you couldn't be more wrong -- Anonymous, 07:37:38 01/30/03 Thu

We can all see how friendly you are.
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[> [> [> [> To the MC Basher, -- Anonymous, 07:54:46 01/30/03 Thu

In my opinion your actions on this board are much worse than anything you have described about this mom and child.
I myself teach my child not to talk to strangers and maybe thats what her mom does as well. Especially in pageants you never know what people are capable of. Take for example, YOU! For you to make caddy remarks concerning this child the way you did in your first post only leads me to believe you are extremely obsessed with her and beating her. You really should seek some help for your problem Its not healthy at all!
I know both the mom and the child and they are not what you have described at all. One encounter with someone is not enough to become best friends. Maybe you should have taken the time to try to get to know them instead of bashing them on this board. Oh and if you think that her mom cares what you have to say on here well think again. She has many friends and knows who they are. She picks them very very carefully these days!
And as far as beating her child goes it doesn't bother her one bit if someone wins and does a better job.
She knows no child is unbeatable and hers doesn't win all the time like you say she does anyway.
Your post is full of untruths about this mom and child. I have to wonder why you started this now of all times.
I suggest you hurry up and pick up the pbone and seek some help for your obsessive behavior problem. Good luck!
Oh and good luck to your daughter to. Remember what comes around goes around and your bashing of this child could come back to slap you in the ass!!
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[> [> [> [> [> Re: To the MC Basher, -- Anonymous, 11:19:03 01/30/03 Thu

I'am so glad you teach your daughter not to speak to strangers. We do the same. If you never know what people are capable of in pageants then why do you enter them? Are you not there supervising your daughter or are you off bashing/badmouthing someone you dont know? But teaching a child not to be rude is a different story & that is what was stated. Please put your glasses on when you read.First your opinion means nothing to me, Second, It is not ME9I dont enter pageants)beating her;that was never said in any of my posts. Unless you are a psychologist, how can you diagnosis someone as obsessed. Usually Psychologist/psychiatrists are out working this time of day not sitting on computer stating "their opinion". Then you state Maybe I should take time to get to know them & then turn around & say SHe doesnt care what I say & has many friends & picks them very carefully. Are you rambling? You state my post is full of untruths, but how are you to know this when you weren't there or haven't really watched the video of MC? Bye the way, you spelt phone wrong "pbone". Thank you for wishing my daughter Good Luck. And how very caddy of you to use a swear word. We are sitting here laughing so hard at this post & had to respond. You are a joke! Go stick your head up MC's "you know where" & kiss all over her grandma too! LOL. Who cares about you?
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[> [> [> [> [> [> I take back the part I said about you being obsessive. YOU ARE A SICKO! -- Anonymous, 12:36:00 01/30/03 Thu

And I will be sure to let MC know that someone like you is out there and to keep her child away from strange people she does not know WELL! Have a good day and don't bother to respond as I won't be back to respond to you.
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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: I take back the part I said about you being obsessive. YOU ARE A SICKO! -- Anonymous, 12:41:58 01/30/03 Thu

EXCELLENT! JUST WHAT I wanted to read!!!LOL! YEs, please tell her to be MORE AWARE OF STRANGERS & More UNFRIENDLY than they(MC & Mary)already are! Yippee! Thanks for not responding. This made my DAY! LOL LOL. Bye, Freak!
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[> [> Re: Why is it that LKP,MC,TS,HF and a few others moms are so greedy. They win a contest and the next month they enter a different picture. Is it just greed or stupidity. The contest should have a clause if you win once in the year then you must sit out and give others a chance. Or have a contest for those that have never won over $100.cash in any photo contest. Let's be fair to everyone and quit building the pot for the same kids. -- Anonymous, 04:53:39 01/30/03 Thu

And you have given her a reason to be unfriendly to you just by posting what you did above. You deliberately bashed this child and mom and you want her to be nice to you? Yeah right!
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[> [> [> Re: Why is it that LKP,MC,TS,HF and a few others moms are so greedy. They win a contest and the next month they enter a different picture. Is it just greed or stupidity. The contest should have a clause if you win once in the year then you must sit out and give others a chance. Or have a contest for those that have never won over $100.cash in any photo contest. Let's be fair to everyone and quit building the pot for the same kids. -- Anonymous, 17:27:31 01/30/03 Thu

You have some nerve to come here and call people freaks !
Meagen's grandma is right on it, and you're just prooving her right.
Hell you probably just pissed that your kid lost to her in a contest, because Meagen has been winning every competition she's been in since summer.
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I will tell you what is wrong with the contests. -- Anonymous, 21:49:31 01/28/03 Tue

They are not contests at all, they are a device to lure the unsuspecting prey for the sheer pleasure of revenge seekers and those who want favors, or owe them.

They are set up to let friends win, (swap and trade) and to disgrace and humiliate the ones that have beaten the owner's little precious in other contests. That's what! I have seen it with my own eyes.
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[> Re: I will tell you what is wrong with the contests. -- Anonymous, 00:28:53 01/29/03 Wed

That is true for the tiny snapshot or bad enhancements contests. Move on to the real contests !
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[> [> Re: I will tell you what is wrong with the contests. -- Anonymous, 16:44:10 01/29/03 Wed

Then tell my why certain pageant directors kids and photo contest directors kids are sure to win the top prizes?
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[> [> [> Re: I will tell you what is wrong with the contests. -- Anonymous, 08:03:38 01/30/03 Thu

where are they sure to win the top prize? NOt all contests are like that so dont lump them together some are very fair and dont go that route.
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My Stunning predicts. -- Anonymous, 20:20:13 01/29/03 Wed

My favorites are Alisha 12 and Shelby 16 (or Shelby 13 or 18) these are just beautiful.
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[> Re: My Stunning predicts. -- Anonymous, 21:27:33 01/29/03 Wed

I like Alisha for the winner.
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OMG OMG Did anyone see Kylie's new picture? At least I think it's her - who took it- anyone? -- Anonymous, 09:39:44 09/25/03 Thu

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[> Re: OMG OMG Did anyone see Kylie's new picture? At least I think it's her - who took it- anyone? -- Anonymous, 17:07:05 09/27/03 Sat

yes i did and its better then the other pics i have seen of her in the past.Its about time her mom payed for a real photographer.good luck with it

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[> [> Re: OMG OMG Did anyone see Kylie's new picture? At least I think it's her - who took it- anyone? -- Anonymous, 15:42:38 09/29/03 Mon

Welp guess there not that good she's not winning shit and she entered in everything ROTFLMAO

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[> [> [> Re: OMG OMG Did anyone see Kylie's new picture? At least I think it's her - who took it- anyone? -- Anonymous, 06:24:44 09/30/03 Tue

I don't think that is funny at all. The pic is beautiful, but it is harder for the little ones to compete against the older girls. I'm not sure how anyone could find it "funny" that she hasn't won a contest yet. This is a 3 year old child that is being talked about, I'm sure she's never said a bad thing about you, and you shouldn't say such stuff about her (or about ANY child for that matter!).

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[> [> [> [> Re: OMG OMG Did anyone see Kylie's new picture? At least I think it's her - who took it- anyone? -- Anonymous, 07:36:03 09/30/03 Tue

No what's funny is is this mother thinks her daughter has Beauty Potential - This child can't stop traffic - she was hit by it

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: OMG OMG Did anyone see Kylie's new picture? At least I think it's her - who took it- anyone? -- Anonymous, 13:59:49 11/04/03 Tue

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Shame -- Anonymous, 17:25:48 08/15/03 Fri


My Lord! I have sat and watched your stupid ass BS for months. I won't even say I'm sorry for what I'm about to say because I mean every word of it!!!! It's sooooooo beyond obvious that you do indeed have something personal against this director and I really don't give a crap how many times you try to deny it. We can all read between your lines my dear and you are more than obvious. For the record, I have had occasion to deal with this director during her various contests while entering my daughter and she has won and lost her fair share, but at no time did I ever consider it less than fair. You say you've been involved for 5 years? Sorry hon, we've been at it for 7 now and the "Jackpot" contest you are referring to must not have been worth a dime because I had never heard of it until you mentioned it and even if I had, what exactly is your problem.... You said yourself that was over FIVE years ago!!!!! This directors Jackpot photo contest is the first, most recent contest that has been decently successful whether you want to admit it or not. Since you started on your little tirade with this director I have been watching things a bit more closely and since we are talking about copying, I believe there has been 3 maybe 4 that have copied her, so why are you not up on that soap box preaching to them???????? If you can't get your spill right on your box then hon it's time to come on down and let a real woman handle it. If you would like the urls to those contests, I will get back with you on them, that is, if they have not already bombed out. You see, the ONLY difference in them and this directors is that she gave all the money back into the contest where all the others only gave back half. Duh! Wake up and stop being such a sniveling little bitch and get some back bone and take your crap up with this director in private because I am sick and tired of you trying to start crap every damn month. Every time you do that, it only wants to make me enter more. LMAO@u!!!!!!!!

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WOW!! -- Anonymous, 15:33:55 11/03/03 Mon

WOW is all I can say!! -- Anonymous, 17:39:23 12/17/02 Tue

I am sorry but I must admit I have NEVER been a big fan of SW's pictures and have quite honestly, quite often wondered how she won so many photo contests. I am NOT bashing this child, you will see that I did NOT say anything bad about her. I have just always thought her pictures were just okay and that others had way better pictures. Now with that said I must now eat crow because I have just seen one of the prettiest pictures that I have EVER EVER seen and OMG it belongs to SW. If she does not kick some major butt with that pic then something is wrong. Go look if you do not believe me. http://www.pageantsite.net/photofile/savannaW1.jpg
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[> Re: WOW is all I can say!! -- Anonymous, 17:49:40 12/17/02 Tue

This contest has some tuff comp and I'm sure glad I did not enter. There are a lot of pretty pics and I do agree with you that SW has an awesome shot with the very pic you mentioned.
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[> [> Re: WOW is all I can say!! -- Anonymous, 18:50:23 12/17/02 Tue

I've always liked Savanna's photos but this one is not my favorite, by far. Especially the black and white version because whoever turned the photo didnt realize it made the face out of focus. Even in the color, the position of her face and the sweater (one shouldered ?) gives me an urge to reach out and keep the child from falling.. LOL.. She has amazing photos and is definitely a favorite in this contest.
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Designs by Debra -- Anonymous, 17:14:16 12/17/02 Tue

OMG so sad I wasted my $$$ and entered!! Way too many good pics for us to stand a chance. Really glad my kid ain't in 7-9 thought cause the grand is coming from there Rebecca or Hilary). I thought I had the grand pegged. I liked #4g Hilary the best of all pics entered and thought it was the grand hands down but OMG when I clicked on it to admire it I noticed the strangest thing with her teeth. I am not bashing here I still think that picture is good and the child looks gorgeous in it but I want to make sure this is not my eyes messing with me. Is there something wrong with her teeth? It looks like a bad mouthpeice or a bad touch up job it looks like one of her front teeth has a big chip in the top of it or like their is a big slanted line that didn't get filled in or the peice doesn't fit just right. Help is it just me seeing this?
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[> Re: Designs by Debra -- Anonymous, 17:20:37 12/17/02 Tue

http://www.pageantsite.net/photofile/hilaryF6.jpg
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[> Re: Designs by Debra -- Anonymous, 17:29:54 12/17/02 Tue

I see what you are talking about, but it just looks like it's something from the scan to me. It's a great pic and one of my favorites in the contest.
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OYBD my pix -- Anonymous, 12:25:58 12/17/02 Tue

0-3 : Brooke (What a doll, those eyes and pouty lips are
beautful!)

4-7 : Danica (What a gorgeous face and so natural looking,
hair is very simple. Reminds me of the girl
next door look, love it! )

8-up : Kala (Again, what a gorgeous face and so natural
looking, hair is very simple and has the
natural look as my pick in the 4-7 )

Good-Luck to all of you, you all are so beautiful and it will be a tough job for the judges.
We did not make the top 15, but we are proud to have made the first cut.
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My pick for BFI 0-5 Charlsey : love the personalty what a smile, simple hair all you see is face -- Anonymous, 09:15:59 12/17/02 Tue

6-up
Andi(beautiful girl
Love the B/W forgot her name ?
hair up, simple. B/W shows true beauty IMO
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OYBD,you must be joking,joking,joking.No way. -- Anonymous, 21:59:03 12/16/02 Mon

I do like some of the photos and MHO is Taylor,Shayla,and Kaylee are the best. Total photo and facially.
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BFI 0-5 -- Anonymous, 20:57:49 12/16/02 Mon

Facially the obvious ones are Victoria, Savannah and Delaney. I don't know what in the world a couple of those are doing there, not that they are not pretty, they are gorgeous in some of their other photos, but NOT those. And I don't know how that one pic got in there, notice I said pic, not kid.
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[> Re: BFI 0-5 -- Anonymous, 21:40:16 12/16/02 Mon

I agree with your 0 to 5.The 6 and up was even tougher though and I think the most facial are,and I mean nit picking,is Andi,Haley,Nicole,Abbi and Raeann.
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Is it the norm for pics to win just because of pretty eyes doesn't the face count for anything ? -- Anonymous, 08:04:05 12/16/02 Mon

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[> Re: Is it the norm for pics to win just because of pretty eyes doesn't the face count for anything ? -- Anonymous, 21:06:33 12/16/02 Mon

Obviously, the face don't mean squat anymore. My gosh people do you think we are that stupid? When you say facial, then it becomes much more opinion based, and personal. If your child doesn't make it, then you know they didn't like your child's face, not the pic necessarily. Also, when it is facial, even though it falls more on opinion and an issue of taste and preference, the rest of us have eyes too and can clearly see when a contest is unjust. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and some can see better than others.lol but the rest of the world is not totally blind and in some cases you can tell it is not just an opinion, it is just wrong with no doubt.
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THIS IS A WARNING ABOUT DEANNA MEREDITH, PHOTOGRAPHER! -- Anonymous, 12:55:03 12/14/02 Sat

This is just a message to warn everyone of this louse! Never met her & never will! She did pocket $350 of mine & right before Christmas!!!She had a shoot scheduled, & backed out less than 24 hours before shoot! She is pathetic, a big piece of lieing scum & I hope she rots in her grave very slowly! She picked the wrong person to SCAM! I will haunt her lousy soul 4ever! Made my daughter cry all night because she cancelled this shoot! I booked 4 weeks in advance & that disease ridden broad, cancels!!!BEcause she is to greedy for peoples money & took it out on me when other people cancelled this shoot! And you know the unprofessional thing, She never returns my calls!!!She must be on drugs if she thinks I wont get her for credit card scam!!!!And I heard her H&M artist is an alcoholic, always drunk for shoots. Sometimes the stuff you hear is true & it really isnt rumors. So all you moms or dads or gaurdians looking for a photographer, DO NOT DO NOT GO with this cockroach! You will be sorry! And wont it be a MERRY Christmas for my 2 kids when there mom has lost this money for no reason!!!
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[> If your kids don't have a Christmas because of this photo shoot -- Anonymous, 19:25:45 12/15/02 Sun

it is your own fault. How Merry of a Christmas would they have had if you had attended the photo shoot? What kids wants pageant pictures taken for a Christmas gift? If you didn't have the money to spare you shouldn't have scheduled the shoot no matter what. Of course you don't sound like a very smart person anyway. Broad? Do people who live outside of low class bars use that word anymore? Again, you have no one but yourself to blame for blowing 350.00 on a pageant photo shoot rather than give your kids a decent Christmas.
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[> Re: THIS IS A WARNING ABOUT DEANNA MEREDITH, PHOTOGRAPHER! -- Anonymous, 22:40:20 12/15/02 Sun

wouldnt you have been out the money either way?
I mean you spent the money on the pics right? so even if you had them taken thats where the money would have gone. Not to christmas presents. sounds more to me you are just angry cause she canceled and are ruining her name because of it. Maybe ifyou are that upset you should get off the boards and go contact your credit card company or however you paid and try to get your money back. it certainly would be a more effective use of your time. also did you ever think maybe she is rescheduling the shoot?
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Top 20 for BFI announced!!!! -- Anonymous, 08:35:49 12/15/02 Sun

http://www.beautifulfacesinternational.com/top20page1.html
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[> Re: Top 20 for BFI announced!!!! -- Anonymous, 08:50:02 12/15/02 Sun

0-5:
Kori
Charlsey
Delaney
Alexsa
Reann
Victoria
Savanna
Paige
Katelin
Savannah

6 up:
Andi
Caitlin
Haley
Deidra
Hannah
Nicole
Athena
Abbi
Sharline
Cherisa

Congrats girls!!
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[> [> Re: Top 20 for BFI announced!!!! -- Anonymous, 09:07:31 12/15/02 Sun

I do not have a kid entered and never did so this is not a bash at all, I am just wondering why in the 0-5 Paige's pic is smaller than the rest and in the 6 & up Andi's and Caitlin's photos are smaller than the rest. I will post my top 5 in each if I can narrow it down, such beautiful girls.
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[> [> [> their new webmaster posted on boards that if your photos werent clear or big enough moms were welcome to resend, we did (and lost lol) apparently some decided not to -- Anonymous, 09:29:37 12/15/02 Sun

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[> [> Re: Top 20 for BFI announced!!!! -- Anonymous, 10:36:26 12/15/02 Sun

Carrington added to 0-5. Reann moved to 6 & up.
Predictions on top 5 in each, anyone???
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[> [> [> Re: Top 20 for BFI announced!!!! -- Anonymous, 22:09:44 12/15/02 Sun

I will pick the winners, or my opinion. Katelin 0-5, Diedra 6 and up. Just something there.
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Wanting to get pro pictures for the first time and need an opinion -- Anonymous, 11:51:30 11/24/02 Sun

Who do you think we should try to get in with? The child is around 4-6. Our choices are Donna Mallard, Tony Overby, and Troy and Michael. Thanks in advance.
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