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Date Posted: 23:49:11 08/26/11 Fri
Author: Lois
Subject: Re: General Denominational (Dis)Information
In reply to: George 's message, "Re: General Denominational (Dis)Information" on 21:55:43 08/26/11 Fri

>Lois wrote:
>
>(snip Windland's turgid rant against Christianity)
>>
>>HISTORY
>>
>>The church was legally organized on April 6, 1830, in
>>Fayette, New York. Following the assassination of
>>founder Joseph Smith Jr. in 1844, the church split
>>into multiple groups. Joseph Smith III succeeded his
>>father and was ordained prophet-president of this
>>denomination on April 6, 1860.
>>
>>And then this is what they turn around and say in
>>order to gain admittance into the National Council of
>>Churches:
>>
>><>
>>page 2
>>
>>The Membership and Ecclesial Relations Committee
>>(MERC) of the General Assembly of the National Council
>>of the Churches of Christ in the USA and Church World
>>Service recommends to the 2010 General Assembly that
>>the membership application of the Community of Christ
>>(COC) be approved. This recommendation is based on a
>>careful review of written materials provided by the
>>COC,
>>
>>page 3
>>
>>It is always important at the onset of any discussion
>>of the spiritual roots of Community of Christ to note
>>that its founder is not [Joseph Smith] of the Church
>>of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
>>Saints (LDS), but his son, Joseph Smith III,
>>---------------
>>
>>How can they have two distinctly different histories?
>>By their own logic Grant McMurray, who resigned
>>suddenly as president, was the founder of the
>>Community of Christ. That is when they changed their
>>name from Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter
>>Day Saints to Community of Christ. Maybe they should
>>get their history straight for their website.
>>
>>Submitted by Lois
>
>I tend to agree, Lois.
>
>This is all about same-sex marriage. Section 111 of
>the Doctrine and Covenants states that marriage is
>between a man and a woman. Since past RLDS conferences
>have voted that this revelation is still binding on
>the post 1860 church, the only way to get rid of it is
>to claim that the RLDS church never existed before
>1860. That allows them to discard Joseph Smith, Jr.'s
>doctrines and practices entirely, from rebaptism to
>heterosexual marriage. That renders all revelations
>from Joseph, Jr. as quaint and obsolete as Wycliff's
>Bible translation.
>
>If the Communitarian church is a reality and not a
>fiction, I would expect that its real inception
>occurred during the administration of Mr. McMurray.
>And, of course, if later the Communitarians want to
>jettison something from Joseph Smith, III, they will
>move the beginning of the church 140 years after 1860.
>Just think. Someday they may find Dr. Smith's
>revelations just aren't kinky enough and decide to get
>rid of them. After all, Dr. Smith is in lineal
>descent from Joseph Smith, Jr. Getting rid of him
>would completely get rid of the Smith family's "taint"
>(as the liberals see it.) But that will be past his
>human lifespan, so he won't have to deal with such an
>insult.
>
>What a bill of goods the leadership sold the NCC.
>After all, the Unitarians and the Mormons couldn't get
>into the NCC. The LDS don't want to, but the
>Unitarians get to participate as back-of-the-bus
>passengers. So the Communitarians have pulled off a
>great feat. Not wonderful, but great. Don't think that
>the exMormon forum participants haven't noticed this
>sudden change, and haven't compared it to the kind of
>mind control practiced by the LDS church and the
>Communist Party.
>
>George
>
>Links removed because they drive the Voy computer
>nuts.


You are absolutely right, George. I hadn't realized that of course Section 111, having been adopted in 1835 would somehow have to be repudiated.

Doctrine and Covenants

. . . at the general assembly of August 17, 1835. It was adopted unanimously by that assembly as part of the Book of Doctrine and Covenants.

[Sec 111:2a] Marriage should be celebrated with prayer and thanksgiving; and at the solemnization, the persons to be married, standing together, the man on the right, and the woman on the left, shall be addressed, by the person officiating, as he shall be directed by the Holy Spirit; and if there be no legal objections, he shall say, calling each by their names:

[Sec 111:2b] "You both mutually agree to be each other's companion, husband and wife, observing the legal rights belonging to this condition; that is, keeping yourselves wholly for each other, and from all others, during your lives?"

[Sec 111:4b] Inasmuch as this Church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication, and polygamy: we declare that we believe that one man should have one wife; and one woman but one husband, except in case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again.
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Lois

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