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Date Posted: 20:01:41 09/05/02 Thu
Author: More responses
Subject: Perceptor II
In reply to: Icon 's message, "Can of worms" on 12:42:46 09/05/02 Thu

The US, after the terrible incident of last year, started out by seeming to realise there is a greater political reality than they are used to dealing with, and a whole bunch of people who don't automatically assume that Americans are the "good guys" by default. They were, it was suggested, going to be less insular and "grow up" to their position within the world, being more open to advice and sensitive towards others.

Speaking on a more individual level, many in the U.S. tried that, and we found that there are actually a whole bunch of people that assume that Americans are the "bad guys" by default. They are right to call this bigotry and right to be angry about it. They are wrong when they assume that all criticism is a result of this bigotry, though.

(Note: I am not accusing anyone here of anti-American bigotry, nor do I believe that any regular poster is a bigot. I thought I should clarify that.)

Take for example, the US holding facility at Guantanemo Bay(Might be misspelling that). The US should have adhered scrupulously to international law on this, so they could be above reproach from any observer. Instead they view it as their right to do as they please befcause they are the "aggrieved party",

Scrupulously, no. Yes, we have left room for criticism, but the detainees are prisoners of war (a war that is still going on) so it is legal to hold them there. Most of the criticism has struck me as people needing to find things wrong with it simply because it has an American flag flying over it.

To have the President of the US announce that they are seeking to depose an individual leader until, it is implied, someone they approve of is put in his place, is hardly an act that will stabilise an already volatile situation.

Agreed.

But all decent men are also shocked by the actions in Israel and Palestine, and the US's stand on those is, not "baffling" because one can see how they got there, but fairly indefensible.

Taken by itself, yes. Taken with the equally indefensible stance of most Islamic countries and the European Union, it becomes a necessary evil, if only to provide a counter-balance.

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