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Date Posted: 06:15:12 11/10/22 Thu
Author: Stop the cheering mama
Author Host/IP: d-66-29-209-95.oh.cpe.breezeline.net / 66.29.209.95
Subject: Oireachtas splits

‘Make cheating harder. Why are the names of dancers in each split already published? Split competitions all start at the exact same time. There is no need for this information to be available three weeks in advance. Dancers don’t need to know what ballroom to go weeks in advance. Judges should not have access to the list of competitors weeks in advance either. This list of names gives them plenty of time to create their top ten lists based on previous results. We want more changes. Mid-America set the bar higher. Our children deserve better.

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[> Why are they split? No split in Mid-Atlantic region. -- ., 19:59:46 11/10/22 Thu (ool-18e43fa3.dyn.optonline.net/24.228.63.163)

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[> [> Splits done per syllabus -- No name, 20:20:34 11/10/22 Thu (mobile-107-77-208-213.mobile.att.net/107.77.208.213)

14) Split protocol will be as follows: All competitions with 120 competitors or more entered in the Mid-America Oireachtas will be divided into two separate competitions with NO ADDITIONAL WORLD QUALIFIERS. A list of competitors entered in competitions with 120 dancers or more will be shared by the tabulation company with the Oireachtas Chairs. The Oireachtas Chairs will hand organize the splits based on the criteria voted on in the January 2019 meeting as outlined here for 2020 and beyond:
a) To create splits of equal strength, entered dancers will be re-ranked from top to bottom by the previous year’s Mid-America Oireachtas placement in split A. Likewise, entered dancers will be reranked from top to bottom by the previous year’s Mid-America Oireachtas placement in split B.
b) In the case of a tied placement from the previous year’s Oireachtas, dancers will be sorted by birth order and then ranked accordingly.
c) From the above, all odd ranked dancers from split A and even ranked dancers from split B will be placed
on one side. Even ranked dancers from split A and odd ranked dancers from split B will be placed on the other side.
d) Dancers who did not compete in the previous Mid-America Oireachtas will be organized by birth order and numbered, then split accordingly, odd and even. In the event of the same birth date, dancers sharing a birth date will be ordered alphabetically based on last name, then first.
e) The current world qualifier formula will be applied to the total number of dancers who competed in the combined splits and awarded accordingly.
f) These splits will then be confirmed by the Regional Director. The Oireachtas Chairs will return the split competition lists (A/B, even/odd) to the tabulation company, clarifying with the tabulation company that the re-ranking is not the order they are dancing in. The tabulation company will then randomize the competition, making certain schools are separate as needed.

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[> [> [> Are split A and split B judged by the same judges? -- ?, 08:22:03 11/11/22 Fri (ool-18e43fa3.dyn.optonline.net/24.228.63.163)

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[> [> [> [> No...they are on at the same time at different stages. -- ZZ, 10:14:38 11/11/22 Fri (NoHost/50.207.7.2)

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[> [> [> [> [> That doesn’t sound fair to me. -- -, 12:32:17 11/11/22 Fri (ool-18e43fa3.dyn.optonline.net/24.228.63.163)

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[> [> I wish that all regions could decide to do it one way to try to make it fair across all regions. -- !, 08:24:08 11/11/22 Fri (ool-18e43fa3.dyn.optonline.net/24.228.63.163)

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[> [> [> Not all regions have competitions that large. -- MWM, 10:18:22 11/11/22 Fri (NoHost/50.207.7.2)

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[> [> [> [> Mid-Atlantic does. -- ., 10:55:00 11/11/22 Fri (ool-18e43fa3.dyn.optonline.net/24.228.63.163)

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[> [> [> [> [> What are your numbers/age groups this year in excess of 120 in Mid Atlantic? -- Curious, 16:17:12 11/11/22 Fri (NoHost/172.56.12.28)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> #s have not been released yet for this year, but I know in 2019(pre-covid) girls u13,u14, & u15 all had over 120 and did not split. -- #, 11:30:09 11/12/22 Sat (ool-18e43fa3.dyn.optonline.net/24.228.63.163)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Mid American u10-u16 all over 120 this year -- ., 09:01:01 11/14/22 Mon (NoHost/172.58.137.61)

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[> Will you all have a rotating panel, dropping hi and low? -- mum, 14:34:07 11/11/22 Fri (pool-173-79-149-239.washdc.fios.verizon.net/173.79.149.239)

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[> [> Yes, as per the syllabus: e) Rotating panel of 5 judges, dropping the high and low scores for each round. -- AM, 14:31:49 11/12/22 Sat (ool-18e43fa3.dyn.optonline.net/24.228.63.163)

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[> When did Mid-America starting splitting at theur Oireachtas? -- ?, 11:25:43 11/12/22 Sat (ool-18e43fa3.dyn.optonline.net/24.228.63.163)

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[> [> 2018 or 2019 split at 150 I think -- No name, 19:24:38 11/12/22 Sat (dynamic-acs-24-239-85-247.zoominternet.net/24.239.85.247)

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[> [> Started splitting as we had groups of close to 200 on some age groups. Sets took forever -- No name, 19:26:26 11/12/22 Sat (dynamic-acs-24-239-85-247.zoominternet.net/24.239.85.247)

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[> Judges -- No name, 20:55:03 11/14/22 Mon (108-217-89-130.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net/108.217.89.130)

The judges do not know until the morning of what comp they will be judging. They pull their assignment from a "hat" so they would have to have their list for every possible comp they might be judging.

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