**Blasphemous comment to follow, so those who might be offended, please scroll past** Interesting thought, Rox -- and one that begs the question: if Baby G and Eddie maintain a similar sort of "cultish" power over people, shouldn't we assume, then, that Baby G had far more of a sexual draw than the Bible has thus far led up to believe? In other words, can you lead a movement successfully without bringing your own sexuality into play? -- Eddie Pedantic Gasbag Discussion Group

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Date Posted: 13:03:19 07/25/01 Wed
Author: Vex.
Subject: **Blasphemous comment to follow, so those who might be offended, please scroll past** Interesting thought, Rox -- and one that begs the question: if Baby G and Eddie maintain a similar sort of "cultish" power over people, shouldn't we assume, then, that Baby G had far more of a sexual draw than the Bible has thus far led up to believe? In other words, can you lead a movement successfully without bringing your own sexuality into play?
In reply to: Roxy 's message, "Now I don't mean to offend, but I often wonder if Baby G himself was funny. I like to think that he was, along with being spiritual and passionate. Believe me, I'm not looking to get struck by lightning (saying a little prayer), but if we feel this way about Eddie, I wonder if this is the feeling that people got around the world when they met some very attractive people, not attractive in the physical sense, but in that pull to the soul, to the inner spirit, whatever makes you YOU. So it's modern times now, and maybe Eddie is the prophet of free-thinking and laughter.....or something like that." on 15:31:38 07/24/01 Tue

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Oh yeah, absolutely! He was human, right? And we've all seen the drawings....I mean apparently he looked like...like.....Barry Gibb! ; ) (Hey Teri!) I know some very religious people get very upset at the thought that Baby G might have been a sexual being, but I think that it had to be *possible* , at least.....and that perhaps, he made the decision to make a sacrifice of that part of his person....like priests are *supposed* to do. (NT) -- Roxy, 14:57:34 07/25/01 Wed
- To me, the really interesting part of this thought is not the idea that Baby G had sex, but rather the thought that he may have been viewed as a sexual object by his followers. Now *that* would certainly change the tone of it all, wouldn't it? (NT) -- Vex., 15:46:31 07/25/01 Wed
  - Well, we'll have to have an interview with Mary Magdalene, for starters.... :D (NT) -- Roxy, 16:08:17 07/25/01 Wed
    - ...and what I meant by *sexual being* is not only that he might have had sex, but that he would be viewed as a sexual (I'm not sure if *object* is the right word, but you know what I mean), by some of his followers. (NT) -- Roxy, 16:10:37 07/25/01 Wed
      - I don't know enough about the Bible to be able to talk intelligently about it for too long, but is there anything that Baby G said or thought or believed that was particularly *anti*sexual, or would lead us to believe that he would not utilize his sexual (whatever) towards the betterment of his agenda? (NT) -- Vex.,it's a weird conversation, but interesting nonetheless!, 16:59:11 07/25/01 Wed
        Hmm, I can't say anything specific, I'd have to have memorized the Bible, which I haven't...but I don't think that he would have really *used* his sexuality - that would indicate a different intent - but I think he would have been attractive to some people in a sexual way, just like any other human being. The idea of being celibate comes from when he told the apostles to form the Church, and that they should not take wives, because the Church would be their "wife" - meaning that their lives would be dedicated exclusively to their beliefs, that having a wife would not allow them to be completely and fully dedicated. That's the gist of that part, that's why priests are supposed to remain celibate/unmarried/etc. (NT) -- Roxy, 17:22:18 07/25/01 Wed
        Yeah, you're right -- *used* isn't exactly the right words for what I was trying to say, but you got the gist of it. Interesting, that the logic behind celibacy is based on "best use of time", it sounds like, rather than being based on any sort of moral judgement. Who knows? Hell, we don't even know, really, what Baby G looked like. He could have been hideously unattractive for all we know. But I still think that a large part of creating a cult of personality is having that sexual shazam that just makes everyone weak in the knees... (NT) -- Vex., talking rubbish..., 09:24:45 07/26/01 Thu
- Well...I'll have to go and have a look at that....but would that be the Barry Gibb of the 60's early 70's (yummy) or today (kind of like the thin vs fat Elvis)..Hey Roxy! (NT) -- Teri, 16:15:36 07/25/01 Wed
  - Heehee...hey T! I'm just popping in every once in a while today...can't stay at the computer for too long...I believe it's more like Early Barry....though I think he *still* looks quite yummy, even with a little pudge....hey, don't we all??? LOL! MWAH! (NT) -- Roxy, 17:15:16 07/25/01 Wed
    - P.S. - but of course, this is all conjecture, according to drawings that I've seen, but I've never seen any documented footage..... (NT) -- Roxy, 17:25:14 07/25/01 Wed