VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

[ Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, 2, 3, [4], 5, 6 ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 12:27:27 11/15/01 Thu
Author: Nell
Subject: Wow - ! ITA (r)
In reply to: Nell 's message, "Re: Looking for some help :)" on 16:19:24 11/13/01 Tue

With alot of what you wrote about the progress of the show - male idots running things who couldn't imagine what to do with strong women (I include Mad Maddy, Adrian, Carla and others in this) and so, pretty much, destroyed them (they even went so far as to turn Adrian into a frozen vegtable!) over the process of the show - and much as I was shocked by the S4 ending line, I decided it made sense and was in some ways true(er anyway than some other options) to some of the main premises of the show. And I didn't care for much of S5 at all, though there were some bright spots, as you said the ep Roy directed wasn't bad at all.

But, if it was just anger that Nikita lost her spirit that would be understandable, it upset me to. But then, the whole show got a lot grimmer and less spunky as time went on, in some ways more interesting for its dark vision....(but what ever happened to the terrorists they were supposed to be fighting? even more than losing Nikita, losing the SOTWs was, marginally, even worse I think for the show....)

But to tell you the truth, I'm sure in part because I didn't find the web LFN community until sometime well into the second season, the anti-Nikita-ites were already out in full force by then, and it seemed to me that some of them NEVER liked her or admired her or felt for Nikita/Peta and her/their struggles in a totally male dominated universe.

But what disturbs me is that so much of that anger directed at Nikita for losing her spirit, if it is that anger, comes across as anger that Nikita didn't spend more time mopping Mikey's tortured brow, that she continued to have her own committments to the just and the good, that she stayed angry with Michael (Karl Peruze?! who wouldn't be angry about that! LOL!) over time and, unbelievably to me anyway, anger that she tried to free him from Section and from their tortured relationship - in short, angry that she wasn't more conventional, more classically the 'girlfriend' of the hero rather than a complete character on her own.

I remember that someone, I forget who, said at the end of S4 "well, I never believed she loved him anyway" and went on to say (I am paraphrasing and could be conflating, probably am conflating lots of people's posts) that all along they believed she had been lying and using and manipulating him. So - when did these people ever like her? Did they? Or were they hostile all along to the idea of a female lead who did not transform herself immediately into a subserviant girlfriend?

And, why do I care so much?! LOL! That's the freaky part. This is a TV show, the characters were fiction and the fans react how they will, why am I so concerned? I have no idea!!

Thanks for your long answer Shirleym - I really appreciate it.

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Replies:

[> [> Re: Looking for some help :) -- genie1, 11:38:49 11/16/01 Fri

Nell, ShirleyM

I wholeheartedly agree with both of you. Thanks for posting this. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.
cheers you guys
gina


[ Edit | View ]


[ Contact Forum Admin ]

Forum timezone: GMT-5
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.