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Date Posted: 22:11:30 07/18/01 Wed
Author: Susan W
Subject: Shirley, this kind of discussion is exactly what I *want*--ramble away! (r)
In reply to: Shirleym 's message, "Looking at "classy" and The Mists of A" on 16:58:55 07/18/01 Wed

I think I have a different view of female manipulation than you do--I think that historically, women have practiced manipulation precisely because they have had a perceived *lack* of power, and that was the only way that they felt they could get what they wanted.

What a fascinating topic (...and especially since we are all fans of a show in which manipulation was practiced as a highly evolved art form). I think everyone does it at least to some small degree. When the ends are just--sound familiar?--it can be excused. But when people are willing to completely mow you down solely for their own advantage, it turns into a character defect, IMO.

I'm thinking about how Nikita felt every time Michael manipulated her. When he did it on behalf of Section (as in "War", I think she found it reprehensible. But sometimes he used manipulation to help her ("Escape", "Recruit"). In the long run, she probably found that type of manipulation easier to deal with.

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[> [> [> Yes, I suppose women did manipulate because it was one of the only forms of power they had. We are so very lucky to live in this time, aren't we. The vote and birth control have given us a freedom that no other generation of women before us has had. I was fascinated by the various forms of manipulation in LFN, especially when the writers had a clue... ;-) That was something I don't think I've ever seen in a TV show before. -- Shirleym, 23:36:22 07/19/01 Thu


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