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Date Posted: 13:51:31 07/16/01 Mon
Author: Zzoo
Subject: Like I said, it's not my period, but
In reply to: Susan W 's message, "OT/"The Mists of Avalon"" on 11:32:10 07/15/01 Sun

Basically, as I recall, the Picts (who are sort of implied with the tattooing and blue face paint on Beltane), the Bretons (not sure about that one), and any Celts kicking around the area would have probably been matriarchal and worship the goddess. Saxons, Angles, Jutes, Norse (later) would all be patriarchal. The Romans would have just recently left the country leaving behind some Mithraic cults and Christianity. Guess I need to go check my history, too. LOL. I don't really remember all the players.

The most mixed up mess in the show was trying to keep track of who should be in line of inheritance, LOL. One side was working with matrilineal inheritance and the other with patrilineal. Some things just didn't make sense even if they made good drama. (For instance, if Ygraine's son can inherit, and Morgause's would be next in line -- why not Lancelot who is depicted as the son of the eldest sister?)
The only things that made perfect sense, actually, was the Ygraine/Uther and Morgaine/Arthur combinations. Both pairing would have produced a child who stood to inherit the crown through both the matrilineal and patrilineal sides thereby supposedly uniting the country.

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[> [> You're just like this regardless, right? -- wiboth, dodging bazooka fire, 21:16:57 07/16/01 Mon


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[> [> [> Why did you think people avoided me at cocktail parties? LOL -- Zzoo, 21:54:13 07/16/01 Mon


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[> [> [> [> um... could it be the exploding necklace??? -- Shirleym, 22:21:08 07/16/01 Mon


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[> [> [> [> Well, I don't know. People avoid me @ cocktail parties when it's my period and w/ good reason. But maybe they're not avoiding you, they just aren't looking downward. -- wiboth (We ALL remember "normal"), 22:27:04 07/16/01 Mon


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[> [> [> [> I could have sworn it was the bazooka...of course, it *could* have been the gas-mask handbag... -- sw, 22:32:44 07/16/01 Mon


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[> [> Zzoo, good point about a Morgaine/Arthur pairing producing a child who could inherit through both matrilineal and patrilineal lines. I hadn't thought of that. I really liked this POV about the Arthurian legends...(r) -- sw, 22:52:21 07/16/01 Mon

I felt the author really had a handle on a number of points in the legend that never really hung together otherwise. Having Morgaine be a priestess in the old religion made a heck of a lot of sense, as did Arthur being a focal point for religious conflicts of the time.

My heritage on my father's side is English, Welsh, (and some Irish), and I have to say that this legend just really speaks to my heart. I've always seen it as part history, part myth, part storytelling. I loved every bit of this retelling, even if some might see it as...er...*unusual*.

A ritual protest though: Why, why, WHY do they always miscast Lancelot? Don't they know that R.D. is just purrr-fect for the role? ;-)


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