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Date Posted: 19:04:56 02/03/00 Thu
Author: Ronbo
Author Host/IP: 6401pppc139.mpls.uswest.net / 63.224.22.139
Subject: Burton's Voice

First, let me say I have been and will be a huge BC fan. Living in flyover country in the US, I've supidly never availed the few opportunities to hear The Man sing live.

I have to say that although I was mightily impressed, in general, with his playing and singing on the Up Close and Alone release, I was disappointed with the nasal tonal quality of his voice when he hit the high notes. Was he doing this because he likes to sing this way, or does he now have to do the nasal thing to hit the notes. Either way, this takes nothing away from Burton. I know all two well we all get older and parts start to go to hell. My question for those of you who get to see him on Canadian TV etc, does The Man still have it, or has he lost a few notes over the years? All comments I've read indicate he still has the voice, what I have heard indicate somewhat differenly.

Best Regards
Thank You

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[> Re: Burton's Voice -- AW, 20:31:00 02/03/00 Thu [1] (proxy-676.public.rwc.webtv.net/209.240.216.76)

No, he hasn't really. If you'd heard Any Minor Miracle on the MM Music or Everything Happpens To Me at the CNE,ya'd know better. The problem with UCAA is he sings "too strong" the songs that should be sung softer like Undun/Sour Suite.Probably over compensating for no back-up.Anybody that can hold a note for 17 secounds- hey,need I say more


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[> Re: Burton's Voice -- Mark Mars, 22:01:18 02/03/00 Thu [1] (207-218-5-225.nas-1.scf.gblx.net/207.218.5.225)

> I have to say that although I was mightily impressed,
> in general, with his playing and singing on the Up
> Close and Alone release, I was disappointed with the
> nasal tonal quality of his voice when he hit the high
> notes.

I agree with you on this. Very unusual sound from his voice. I hope like AW said that it isn't normal now.


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[> [> Re: Burton's Voice -- bcpcfan, 08:59:51 02/04/00 Fri [1] (NoHost/208.160.141.113)

> > I have to say that although I was mightily impressed,
> > in general, with his playing and singing on the Up
> > Close and Alone release, I was disappointed with the
> > nasal tonal quality of his voice when he hit the high
> > notes.
>
> I agree with you on this. Very unusual sound from his
> voice. I hope like AW said that it isn't normal now.

I agree also. I felt he was sounding like Aaron Neville (loaned the UC&A to someone else who was not familiar with Burton and they said the exact same thing). Normally, those are not two voices I would compare. But as AW pointed out, his MMM special did not sound that way.


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[> Re: Burton's Voice -- carguy, 22:23:19 02/03/00 Thu [1] (ts2-g-p30.bmts.com/216.183.141.86)














Burton is in his 50's, as we all know, and many of the hits
with TGW were recorded when he was in his early 20's, and
many solo tunes when he was in his 30's, so THE VOICE might not hit the highest ranges, but it's still strong.
Many years ago, there was a little show done out of Kitchener (?) that featured different artists, and Burton was on with one of the Everly Brothers, Garry Peterson,
Troiano, and a few other musicians, in a studio setting,
playing tunes. I remember BC commenting back then that it was hard hitting some of the higher notes, in "These Eyes"
as he had sung them when recording the tunes.








> First, let me say I have been and will be a huge BC
> fan. Living in flyover country in the US, I've supidly
> never availed the few opportunities to hear The Man
> sing live.
>
> I have to say that although I was mightily impressed,
> in general, with his playing and singing on the Up
> Close and Alone release, I was disappointed with the
> nasal tonal quality of his voice when he hit the high
> notes. Was he doing this because he likes to sing this
> way, or does he now have to do the nasal thing to hit
> the notes. Either way, this takes nothing away from
> Burton. I know all two well we all get older and parts
> start to go to hell. My question for those of you who
> get to see him on Canadian TV etc, does The Man still
> have it, or has he lost a few notes over the years?
> All comments I've read indicate he still has the
> voice, what I have heard indicate somewhat differenly.
>
> Best Regards
> Thank You


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[> Re: Burton's Voice -- Charlie, 05:35:22 02/04/00 Fri [1] (spider-tr063.proxy.aol.com/152.163.201.203)

Burt started singing the "These Eyes" chorus differently as far back as 1973,(I have a tape of it) coming from under instead of over on the "These Eyes have seen..." part. Of course, that part of the tune has some of the highest vocal tones in any GW song. Still, he had the rough rock singer rasp going for many years, but it really started to fade out as his solo career took off. He has changed his style to suit his abilities over the years, but now I can understand it's tough to cover the wide range of vocal acrobatics he once ran through so easily. Freddie Mercury of Queen, Brad Delp of Boston, even Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin all had problems with the high notes they had recorded in the studio within a couple years' time in live concert. There are a few older rockers who still do a remarkable job like Steven Tyler from Aerosmith and even David Lee Roth from Van Halen.


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[> Re: Burton's Voice -- MF, 07:48:19 02/04/00 Fri [1] (spider-tr024.proxy.aol.com/152.163.201.184)

> First, let me say I have been and will be a huge BC
> fan. Living in flyover country in the US, I've supidly
> never availed the few opportunities to hear The Man
> sing live.
>
> I have to say that although I was mightily impressed,
> in general, with his playing and singing on the Up
> Close and Alone release, I was disappointed with the
> nasal tonal quality of his voice when he hit the high
> notes. Was he doing this because he likes to sing this
> way, or does he now have to do the nasal thing to hit
> the notes. Either way, this takes nothing away from
> Burton. I know all two well we all get older and parts
> start to go to hell. My question for those of you who
> get to see him on Canadian TV etc, does The Man still
> have it, or has he lost a few notes over the years?
> All comments I've read indicate he still has the
> voice, what I have heard indicate somewhat differenly.
>
> Best Regards
> Thank You

Here's my loonies worth- to be really fair we would have to compare his present voice under studio recording conditions, as most singers rarely sound as good live and on tour which is exhausting and less than ideal conditions. I think his voice has gotten thicker and deeper, the same change I heard in Lennon's voice starting with the white album.


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[> Re: Burton's Voice -- Chevrier, 12:04:39 02/04/00 Fri [1] (fw-admin.cssd.ab.ca/139.142.134.3)

> My question for those of you who
> get to see him on Canadian TV etc, does The Man still
> have it, or has he lost a few notes over the years?
> All comments I've read indicate he still has the
> voice, what I have heard indicate somewhat differenly.
>
>
I have always prefered Burton's lower voice, which probably explains why I like his 'Heart' album best, as he seldom uses his 'upper register'. However, I feel he has lost none of his vocal prowess, and though some may disagree, he still is one of the few performers who actually sounds even better live than on record. (Keep in mind that live albums undergo studio trickery and mastering, which often tends to homogenize the sound and take away the 'roughness'of the performance that usually makes it more endearing - which could explain why BC's voice sounded better on MM than on UC&A).


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[> Re: Burton's Voice -- MMaypole, 12:23:37 02/04/00 Fri [1] (NoHost/209.108.242.163)

Up Close and Alone offers a more seasoned artist. With age, his voice seems to have evolved in a way that compliments his artistic style. It seems to be deeper and richer. Maybe the high notes are easier on young, less seasoned vocal chords.


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[> Re: Burton's Voice -- Mari Gottwald, 13:19:14 02/04/00 Fri [1] (twe.transport.com/209.177.135.43)

I remember one time when we were all at the Palamino Club in North Hollywood for one of Burton's performances. He made the comment backstage that he was having trouble hitting the high notes, especially on These Eyes, and he said he thought he was getting old. I reminded him that he would have better range, and better breath control if he quit smoking. I sincerely hope he has quit for his health. As far as nasal tones, etc. Burton really likes to improvise with his voice, which is ok with me.


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[> [> Re: Burton's Voice -- Kelly, 14:56:57 02/04/00 Fri [1] (edtntnt5-port-157.agt.net/161.184.204.157)

Unless he made it his New Years Resolution, he was still smoking at the New Years Eve Performance.

Now lets just hope he doesn't get arthiritis in his piano playing hands.


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