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Date Posted: 19:21:33 03/22/02 Fri
Author: Anonymous
Subject: It looks like UGN was almost as bad as DD!

I rarely come to the boards but I must admit over the past week I have been on here reading allot. :-) For what I am about to write if you have any angry remarks please point them at me not my child...I will sign my name and glady put my email address for all to email me if they so desire.
My daughter whom is 3 competed last weekend at UGN, I could not be there due to my sons surgery and him needing his mommy home with him. A travelng companion took my daughter in my place (I had to defend that action on another board, someone felt I was a horrible mom for allowing my daughter to compete instead of making her stay at home with us.. she loves to go to pageants, I could not make her stay home if she wanted to go...her Babbie took her in my place)
My daughter did an awesome job (so I was told by many) however I took that with a grain of salt because we all feel our child does an awesome job rather they do or not so I was not taking stalk in what I was told by others...I felt her scores would reflect her performance on stage. At crowning my daughter won 2 RU in Photogentic.
Many were disapointed because they felt she had done a much better job than the scores reflected, however with me being home I could not judge how well she done, I looked at it as she had a wonderful time and there are others to win :-)
Master score sheet was not available for viewing but was told to call in a couple of days and it would be. I thought nothing more of this untill I read a post on this board...I saw my daughters name mentioned and a TIE...I was not told there had been a Tie in my daughters age group (3 yrs level 1) however since my daughter was mentioned I wanted to know exactly what scores they were talking about.
A wonderful person whom I shall not name came to me and told me that my daughter had Tied for MINI SUPREME however lost the tie when Facial Beauty scores were tallied..we can accept that, heck felt honored she had done so well but sure would have been nice if the Director would have mentioned this.
Next found out my daughter had also Tied for DIVISION QUEEN...well this was just TO MUCH...she had tied for TWO titles and we had not been told of ONE by the Director??. As we checked scores we could not figure how the tie had been broken.
Director was then called and she seemed surprised there was a tie, after checking her master score sheet there it was a TIE. Asked how the tie was broken, she said Facial Beauty....NOPE tied again! Alright she then said they went to the Head Judge for the tie breaker..NOPE tied again!She admitted she didn't remember how they broke the tie she was going to have to check with her Auditor...well I am sorry...if you are the Director of a Natioanal Pageant you better know when there is a tie and how that paticular tie was broken not have to call the person back after you check to see. JMO of course.
The Director promised to call later in the day to let us know how this tie had been broken....she didn't.....waited all day the following day, called her numerous times to see if she could/would answer our question...no answer. The last time we called we left a message that we were coming to the boards since she could/would not give us any answers....she then returned the call....her answer was this...
They had to use a THIRD tie breaker, they used the Head Judges Facial Beauty scores. Now if this is indeed her rulings at all of her pageants I accept that with no problem however after her not knowing HOW they broke the tie and had over a day to think of HOW they broke it I am left with more than a bad taste over this pageant! Why was my daughter at least not mentioned at the pageant or in person for doing so well since she had tide for both titles? I know most pageants that we have done use the High Point Overall score when breaking ties if facial beauty is also a tie if the Director will not honor both girls as winners. Is this what you gals have seen in the past or am I wrong in the way I am feeling?
PLEASE do not misunderstand...I do not begrudge either of these girls their wins as Queen in both Mini Supreme and Division....I want that to be known right here and now. That is not why I am writing this...I am writing this because I feel rules were made along the way instead of being guidlines right up front as to how these ties are handled....not the answer "I will have to get back to you"!!! We all pay allot of money to do pageants and rules should be put into place as how a Pageant breaks their ties when one arises.
I am going to put a banner on the Bravo board for the recognition my baby girl should have received from this Director but did not. Forgive me if I sound harsh I do not mean to...up until one month ago I have never questioned a Director but after the past two Nationals we have attended and the scoring I have had to. That is sad to me....we do these for fun...not the die hards just a mom and daughter fun thing to do. I am an older mom that waited 25 years for a baby girl, we enjoy spending as much time together doing the fun things that she enjoys doing as we can. She loves pageants, clothes/make up and esp. the friends she has made & her H/M friends..loves them to death and they are always so supportive of her. I want to thank them for that. :-)
I thank you all for reading my post, please if you have comments or if something like this has happened to you at this pageant or another please post or email me...again please understand I do not begrudge the winners of this pageant, I congratulate them both for a job well done!
Thank you all for reading.
Debbie (gawelker@y-city.net)

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