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Date Posted: 07:54:43 02/02/02 Sat
Author: Manda
Author Host/IP: 213.122.197.120
Subject: Thanks for your openness DJ
In reply to: DJ 's message, "Re: An interesting story unfolding DJ" on 00:08:26 02/02/02 Sat

hi DJ,

DJ
>My husband was someone I wanted to engage in sexual intercourse with; as a christian I had to be married first. I married in my state and it wasn't unusual at the time, to be married before having sex............

Out of nothing but curiosity, may I ask which State you are from?

DJ
>It was a feeling of embarrassment. I don't know why I felt embarrassed...........

Are there any other words that come to mind to describe how this embarrassment felt/made you feel?

DJ
>I was nine when I prayed and ask jesus into my heart. I don't remember the prayer, but I do remember being baptised, it happened in a pond...........

So are you saying that it was also at that age, 9, that you were baptised? Was this at the same camp or was it when you were back home? Would you like to tell me about the baptism and how you felt during it?

DJ
>I don't know if I was a christian then either. God didn't seem to care though. If it's a commitment god needs, then he sure isn't very secure, is he?.........

When you say that God didn't seem to care, could you tell me more about what you meant by that? I was not sure if you meant he didn't care about whether you were a Christian, didn't care about whether or not you were committed, or didn't care about *you* personally.

My view is that God doesn't need a commitment from us to meet His own needs, but in order to be able to live in us and through us. If He does not have our assent to do this, I believe He is a gentleman and will wait till He does.

DJ
>I took college courses and made the deans honor roll, I was very surprised to be shown that I was not a complete dummy.

Are you saying that there had been times before when you *had* thought you were a complete dummy? Who was it that had made you feel that way?

DJ
> Like I said, I came up around christians and their church and members. We were taught that we were miserable sinners with no hope apart from JC...........

Was this at a Christian college that you were taught this? How did this teaching make you feel?

DJ
>I wasn't crushed, I was smothered.

Could you tell me a bit more about this feeling of being smothered, to help me understand better?

DJ
>Don't we all?

Could you tell me a little bit about your father, whether he was with the family, or away from it, whether or not you got along?

take care

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Replies:

Here are some personal feelings expressed. -- DJ, 09:27:40 02/02/02 Sat
- Re: Here are some personal feelings expressed. -- DJ, 09:38:57 02/02/02 Sat
  - Re: Here are some personal feelings expressed. -- DJ, 10:18:51 02/02/02 Sat
- With respect ........ -- Manda, 09:48:05 02/02/02 Sat
  - These are not theories, you open mouth and expose your ignorance to quick -- DJ, 09:54:07 02/02/02 Sat
    - Well .......... -- Manda, 11:29:55 02/02/02 Sat
      - Yes, you were being very nosey. -- DJ, 18:48:55 02/02/02 Sat
        You seemed open at the time (NT) -- Manda, 19:01:59 02/03/02 Sun
  - Trust me -- squeak, 10:15:21 02/02/02 Sat
    - Pain? regarding Manda's comment... -- DJ ;^), 10:30:13 02/02/02 Sat
      - You know I didn't -- squeak, 11:09:48 02/02/02 Sat
        I feel like the fish in a school of pirana. (NT) -- DJ ;^), 11:24:18 02/02/02 Sat
        Instead of trying to find out ........ -- Manda, 11:36:57 02/02/02 Sat
        You just gum us to death (NT) -- DJ, 13:17:36 02/02/02 Sat
        If I may say ...... -- Manda, 11:31:45 02/02/02 Sat
        You may well, we can't stop you. -- DJ, 13:21:26 02/02/02 Sat
        So what? -- WOG, 21:40:23 02/02/02 Sat
        If a friend, then who needs the FBI? (NT) -- DJ, 10:51:37 02/03/02 Sun
        You don't have to answer DJ -- WOG, 11:08:07 02/03/02 Sun
        Nothing has changed, so long as we stick to the subject for why I'm here -- DJ, 11:12:31 02/03/02 Sun
        If I remember correctly -- WOG, 11:19:32 02/03/02 Sun
        I did that. If you will recall, we are to discuss the bible now -- DJ, 11:25:34 02/03/02 Sun
        Please do -- squeak, 09:04:07 02/03/02 Sun
        Not at all squeak -- Manda, 10:53:16 02/03/02 Sun
        Re: Not at all squeak -- DJ, 10:57:56 02/03/02 Sun
        Give ... -- Manda, 11:11:11 02/03/02 Sun
        Lady, you read like a gossip column. -- DJ, 11:17:13 02/03/02 Sun
        That is -- Manda, 11:19:58 02/03/02 Sun
        No mam, you were taking chances -- DJ, 12:10:16 02/03/02 Sun
        Again -- Manda, 12:14:47 02/03/02 Sun
        OMG -- squeak, 12:41:24 02/03/02 Sun
        repressed shame? -- DJ, 12:54:24 02/03/02 Sun
        You are -- Manda, 13:53:55 02/03/02 Sun
        The truth is self-evident -- squeak, 11:20:18 02/03/02 Sun
        A cop out -- Manda, 11:21:43 02/03/02 Sun
        LOL....Then why did -- squeak, 11:47:28 02/03/02 Sun
        I was -- Manda, 12:03:47 02/03/02 Sun
        Ma'am You're an open Book! There's No need to judge the obvious. (NT) -- DJ, 12:14:47 02/03/02 Sun
        That's -- Manda, 12:16:35 02/03/02 Sun
        no prejudice, just observing the obvious (NT) -- DJ, 12:57:02 02/03/02 Sun
        Yep it's amazing -- Manda, 21:36:27 02/03/02 Sun
        Now you're quibbling with me. This is so immature. -- DJ, 01:01:54 02/04/02 Mon
        And -- Manda, 06:49:27 02/04/02 Mon
        You don't have to tell me that -- squeak, 12:17:19 02/03/02 Sun
        Where -- Manda, 12:20:14 02/03/02 Sun
        This Manda person is causing me suspicions -- DJ, 12:59:57 02/03/02 Sun
        LOL, -- squeak, 13:05:43 02/03/02 Sun
        Speaking of Sunday -- DJ, 13:13:36 02/03/02 Sun
        You too Deej -- squeak, 13:18:43 02/03/02 Sun
        Funny -- Manda, 15:06:19 02/03/02 Sun
        Oh stop it, Manda. This is getting pitiful (NT) -- DJ, 16:43:02 02/03/02 Sun
        Well! -- Manda, 19:00:16 02/03/02 Sun
    - hi squeak -- Manda, 11:25:58 02/02/02 Sat
      - I never said I didn't want to answer you. -- DJ, 13:23:19 02/02/02 Sat
      - Right off the back -- squeak, 09:11:24 02/03/02 Sun
        It seems to me that.... -- Manda, 11:07:18 02/03/02 Sun
        Lady, you would like NOTHING better then to stick your nose in my dirt! -- DJ, 11:20:25 02/03/02 Sun
        I don't -- Manda, 11:26:31 02/03/02 Sun
        Do you know anyone without dirty laundry? -- DJ, 12:17:57 02/03/02 Sun
        Huh? -- Manda, 12:22:04 02/03/02 Sun
        Re: Huh?/ Stuff? -- DJ, 12:39:51 02/03/02 Sun
        Don't -- Manda, 19:13:56 02/03/02 Sun
        I don't have tactics -- DJ, 00:59:47 02/04/02 Mon
        Sure you do -- Manda, 06:51:37 02/04/02 Mon
      - Semantics -- squeak, 10:00:49 02/03/02 Sun
  - That's two of us Manda -- WOG, 14:52:40 02/02/02 Sat
    - I had no idea -- Manda, 15:48:51 02/02/02 Sat
      - I'll talk to you about the bible if you'd like -- DJ, 16:19:57 02/02/02 Sat
        Manda -- BL, 23:37:52 02/02/02 Sat
        Re: Manda -- DJ, 11:03:35 02/03/02 Sun
        Hah! -- Manda, 11:13:47 02/03/02 Sun
        You're not a bad person, you just don't know the limits. (NT) -- DJ, 11:24:05 02/03/02 Sun
        Too late DJ -- Manda, 11:34:29 02/03/02 Sun
        Wait a minute -- squeak, 11:59:32 02/03/02 Sun
        If you think -- Manda, 12:08:17 02/03/02 Sun
        Now see? -- squeak, 13:16:16 02/03/02 Sun
        No need -- Manda, 19:18:40 02/03/02 Sun
        Re: Too late DJ/ No you're nosey with ulterior motives -- DJ, 12:32:07 02/03/02 Sun
        No DJ -- squeak, 13:21:59 02/03/02 Sun
        Grows up? -- Manda, 21:33:52 02/03/02 Sun
        You what? -- Manda, 21:29:23 02/03/02 Sun
        you're very juvenile (NT) -- DJ, 01:06:10 02/04/02 Mon
        Sure -- Manda, 10:06:32 02/04/02 Mon
- Tell Charley and Rob -- WOG, 14:44:36 02/02/02 Sat