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Subject: Former winners .. Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 17:38:03 01/02/26 Fri I am sitting at home watching some of the old Miss NC videos on YouTube. No offense to all of the young women who won and served us well, but NC has left some amazing first runners-ups standing on our stage who could have made top five and frankly, won Miss America. I am stunned and wonder what the judges could have been thinking. Some of the young women who won Miss NC yes, should have made top 10, bhut frankly should have never been in Top five. Not saying a pageant was fixed, but let's be real, let's agree that all it takes is an ED and committee who favors a contestant and auditors the state committee uses FROM THE SAME FIRM each year. Think about it! With that, EDs should be changed out every three years and no auditors who have served or worked previously under an ED should be allowed to tabulate. Judges are brought in from all over the country, auditors should be no different. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date Re: Former winners .. No name 18:02:31 01/03/26 Sat Who do you feel should not have won? (NT) -- No name, 02:21:38 01/04/26 Sun The board most definitely favors certain committees. The state board also gets to choose the judges. It just takes one judge with an agenda to throw everything off. That’s why the top 5 (and even the top 10) can sometimes seem suspicious. I’m not sure how you can change the local ED’s out every three years, that would be difficult. But, we do need new state board members. Not that the current ones haven’t done well at times but we have an aging state board. They know too many people “in the business” and choose their judges from their friends and acquaintances. Until leadership changes, these problems will persist. Definitely compete if you want but don’t expect different outcomes because they keep “picking” the wrong girl. (NT) No name 12:27:45 01/04/26 Sun But they chose the girl that year that those 5 judges preferred. Pageants are very subjective. There is no "right or wrong" girl if the points are added correctly. Have I been disappointed sometimes? Yes, very. I personally think that NC has let several Miss America's slip through the cracks, the ones that we know about, plus a few others. But, as they say, Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder, and pageants are a very subjective sport. (NT) -- No name, 13:56:16 01/04/26 Sun It all comes down to the judges and who they know (board members, mentors, local ED’s/board member, and coaches). You can’t un-know information told to you even though and all anyone wants is a fair competition, there are people that want to control the narrative. It’s as simple as “who do you like this year?” “What are your thoughts on Miss…”. It’s difficult to make things fair. The board was looking for someone who would be present in the community this year, not someone who would place at Miss A. Its political, the world is all about who you know. Unfortunately, it’s a moving target. Sorry, life’s not fair. (NT) -- No name, 18:05:53 01/04/26 Sun I don't want to see any tabulation errors. So I like that the auditors are the same each year. You need someone who understands the scoring system, how high and low scores are dropped, how to fill out a card for the emcee. You don't want a rookie doing that important of a job. And the auditors really don't mingle with the state committee or judges throughout the week. They just come in for the show. (NT) No name 10:38:22 01/05/26 Mon There were lots of times the first runner up would have been the better choice to compete at Miss America, but not necessarily the best to be Miss NC for a year. (NT) No name 07:32:29 01/06/26 Tue A few of the ones that got away: Kensley Leonard, Michelle Braxton, and Chesli Kryst (NT) No name 14:20:48 01/06/26 Tue Michelle Johnson Braxton would have been an amazing Miss NC! She is my favorite emcee. Another couple that got away....Claire Winslow and Stacey Parker. Quinn would have taken Atlantic City by storm. Which of Quinn's years did you watch and who won? (NT) -- No name, 13:45:08 01/07/26 Wed Patricia O’Quinn definitely (NT) No name 18:40:52 01/06/26 Tue I know it was a long time ago, but I watched the pageant with Patricia online. Still shocked she didn't win. People have always said it was her interview, but how bad could it have been? She was in the Top Five every time she competed. (NT) -- No name, 06:37:25 01/07/26 Wed Years later and people still talk about how she didn't win.she was definitely one that got away. I have my own suspicions about why she never won. (NT) -- No name, 18:03:50 01/07/26 Wed 1984 and 1986. Francesca Adler won in 1984 and Karen Bloomquist in 1986 (NT) -- No name, 11:03:05 01/14/26 Wed Did she only compete twice? 3rd Runner Up and 1st Runner Up....right? (NT) -- No name, 16:34:45 01/14/26 Wed Agree with these, but who got away in the last couple of years… (NT) No name 04:30:17 01/08/26 Thu To be honest....contestants in recent years are not as strong overall as several years ago. And going back even farther....it used to be a bloodbath just to get into that Top 10. You know when you had contestants like O'Quinn get left behind that there was some serious competition going on.… (NT) -- No name, 13:46:08 01/08/26 Thu Back in the 1970's, 1980's and early 1990's contestants were much stronger overall than they are today. You never knew who would make Top Ten, Top Five or win. I wonder how some of our recent Miss NC's would fare against the contestants of the past? (NT) No name 09:58:52 01/12/26 Mon I completely agree! Back then, if you had made Top 10 at Miss NC it was kind of like a mantle you wore....very similar to how they always introduce former Oscar nominated actors as "Oscar nominated....." Lol. I will never forget the first time I saw a former Top 10 girl lose a local on her way trying to get back to State. Everyone was shocked! Now it happens all the time. Of course, the girl that beat this girl also made Top 10 later that year. (NT) -- No name, 10:59:42 01/12/26 Mon I do believe it’s less competitive than it was in previous years. But you see many girls competing once then walking away because they see how things are done. Some girls come back but rarely the ones that would place at Miss America. Miss NC should be a celebrity of sorts that organizations pay to attend their events. She should make over $100,000 her year but instead she runs around working for free. This makes her less valuable than before. Someone should be actively finding paid appearances. Now, our queens post about the same “unpaid” appearance multiple times. Activity does not equal relevance. No real value. It’s so sad. (NT) -- No name, 16:55:38 01/13/26 Tue Turn her over to a real modeling and social media marketing agency that would have their own set of legit contacts and clients. They would be able to get any Miss NC social media product endorsement deals based on her face and marketing reach alone, not to mention the title. And each year publish her general earnings so other contestants will realize there is more than just scholarship dollars. There is 1099 income. (NT) -- No name, 12:06:07 01/14/26 Wed I do think the nc board needs a complete overhaul. Allyoops for buddies & friends is getting us nowhere. Needed desperately is fresh blood and younger faces not meaning Paige who is a racist bigot but her mom is friends with the board so there is that. It's the same circus and the same clowns that will run the show. Picking judges who align with their bias' and agendas'. I did not agree with 1/2 of the top 10 & top 5 in both teen and miss. A sixth judge and the results would have been different. Removing the highest & lowest scores means only three people really determined who won another viewpoint would be a good way of adding more perspective. MAO should oversee judges' selection in each state and a mandatory number of judges that is the national standard. Auditors just fill in numbers on a computer while the other tabulates the score by hand. Having the same auditors isn't the issue you ideally want someone who knows what they are doing. (NT) No name 09:19:28 01/14/26 Wed I didn’t agree with a lot of the top 10 and 5 either but what can really be done about it? Not a thing. Miss America should have an unbiased, external auditor. I think everyone would be surprised by what you’d see. But Miss America is no better. I like Cassie, she’s a sweet girl and is doing her best but there were more qualified, more facially beautiful, and better bodies on the stage. Taking the first Miss NY’s crown and then coming to NY to crown Cassie was suspect. I don’t think the state committees will stop letting their friends judge and crowning their friends until Miss America is willing to do something about it. (NT) -- No name, 14:54:11 01/14/26 Wed