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Subject: Statesville OT - Who is competing this weekend in this pageant? Kinston-Lenoir Miss and OT? Good Luck to all of the girls this weekend.
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 07:37:44 11/19/09 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Good Luck Molly Deans! We love YOU! (NT) -- No name, 08:57:38 11/19/09 Thu Good Luck Dani Jarman! We love YOU MORE!! (NT) -- No name, 13:04:31 11/19/09 Thu Good Luck to Molly and Dani ! (NT) -- and to all of the contestants !, 13:17:35 11/19/09 Thu Did the pageant begin at 7:00 or 7:30? (NT) -- No name, 17:37:11 11/21/09 Sat No results yet? (NT) -- No name, 19:11:10 11/21/09 Sat Mindy Pope won Statesville OT. (NT) -- No name, 19:11:18 11/21/09 Sat I know K-L has got to be over...results???? (NT) -- No name, 19:50:40 11/21/09 Sat Dani Jarman (W); Molly Deans (1st RU); Emily Huneycutt (2nd RU) (NT) -- No name, 19:56:38 11/21/09 Sat Thanks! OT? (NT) -- No name, 20:00:20 11/21/09 Sat Kelsey Holmes (W); Meagan Griffin (1st RU) (NT) -- No name, 20:06:01 11/21/09 Sat Re: Statesville OT - Who is competing this weekend in this pageant? Kinston-Lenoir Miss and OT? Good Luck to all of the girls this weekend. -- No name, 20:02:54 11/21/09 Sat

Subject: from the national board...
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 13:01:34 11/16/09 Mon There is a thread on the national board about changes that need to be made on the state level--NC is mentioned as one that needs a new ED. Do any of you agree with that? Does NC need new direction? I don't know a lot about the situation but since I'm considering volunteering with a local pageant in my area, I'd like to know what I'm getting into. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What board did you see this? Are you the one who posted on the national board? probably... (NT) -- No name, 14:13:17 11/16/09 Mon Yes, NC needs to go in a new direction with a new ED. It's always the same old thing, and too many accusations, whether true or not, about favortism, etc. -- No name, 14:26:23 11/16/09 Mon My suggestion is you volunteer at your local food bank or homeless shelter. There's rumors in every pageant system with every ED that has ever been involved. This one's no different than the next one or the last one! -- No name, 15:09:32 11/16/09 Mon I like the way you think--food bank is a great idea. But I am curious...if things are that bad with Miss NC, why aren't changes made? -- No name, 17:48:13 11/16/09 Mon The stupid part of this is that even though its on a National board, its still a local NC person typing it. Nobody at National is calling for a new direction for NC. If they were, it would be done. -- No name, 15:16:19 11/16/09 Mon No, it isn't someone from NC posting; it is someone from NJ. -- No name, 07:21:44 11/17/09 Tue So exactly how does someone from NJ know or care what is going on inside the state operations of NC? -- No name, 10:14:58 11/17/09 Tue Isn't MAO located in NJ? -- No name, 17:24:40 11/18/09 Wed Well I applaud whoever wrote that NC needs a new ED because indeed we do. Alan doesn't really care about each individual Miss NC and that's like not knowing the product that you are representing. He doesn't really care about increasing scholarship or making this a strong pageant. He cares about being in charge, feeling important and being around pageant people. Just sad.... -- No name, 18:47:52 11/16/09 Mon The MAO is trying to survive, therefore new things are being tried all the time, some work and some don't. Can you remember when NC had over 100 locals? If the NC-MAO is going to survive, changes are needed. Best place to make changes are from the top down. (NT) -- No name, 23:35:10 11/16/09 Mon NC will never have a 100 locals again and neither will any other state. Pageants are not what they were back in the day and they never will be again. It has not one thing to do with Alan. It is a sign of the times. And no, he does not need to go anywhere nor is he going anywhere so give it up. We could have a lot worse than him. Shall I start naming? (NT) -- No name, 07:54:43 11/17/09 Tue I don't see it happening either. The only way NC finds 100 Miss and 100 Teens again is if they open the doors like NCUSA and say bring a check and enter as an at-large contestant. (NT) -- No name, 10:16:43 11/17/09 Tue There you go ! (NT) -- No name, 10:31:49 11/17/09 Tue NCUSA doesn't have that kind of response anymore either. They keep dropping too. Actually NCMAO had growth from last year and NCUSA lost #'s. (NT) -- No name, 11:26:19 11/17/09 Tue NC is full of klunk heads in leadership roles that need to be replaced. The ED of NC-MAO is just one of them. There are several states in which MAO is not only strong but growing. Take a look at South Carolina and Oklahoma for two examples. The leadership of the NCMAO are there for self-serving reasons; they want to be seen and feel important. But how impotent can they be? (NT) -- No name, 10:52:08 11/19/09 Thu Amen sister! I think it is high time that we women stick together on something an run the old geezers and male homosexuals completely out of the MAO organization. It is time that women run this organization and do it for all the right reasons. (NT) -- No name, 10:54:53 11/19/09 Thu Brilliant logic. Never mind finding bright and innovative leaders regardless of gender or sexual orientation, let's just get some women in charge cuz they know best. (NT) -- No name, 11:41:44 11/19/09 Thu Hate to tell y'all this, but without the gay guys there is no pageants ! (NT) -- They Just Have IT !, 11:42:46 11/19/09 Thu Re: Hate to tell y'all this, but without the gay guys there is no pageants ! -- No name, 22:27:15 11/19/09 Thu You ca say what you want to about this, but pageants would be very dull and boring with no flair with the absence of gay guys ! -- Straight from a Straight !, 08:48:31 11/20/09 Fri It doesn't matter who it is or what pageant system, there are always those they are sure they can do better. Right now they are blasting NCUSA also. However these posters are always unknown and not volunteering to help.....just complainers..... (NT) -- No name, 11:44:41 11/19/09 Thu You know, as a homosexual male I should probably be offended by that post but I'm not! It actually makes a lot of sense to have women in all the leadership roles in MAO. Make the pageant more "women friendly" and make the priorities what women want, not what a bunch of gay dudes and old geezers want. I would totally support such a move and would be on the front row applauding the first pageant. (Of course, you'd still need us to do the flowers for you! LOL) (NT) -- No name, 14:13:35 11/19/09 Thu hahaha what a great post :) (NT) -- No name, 18:22:24 11/19/09 Thu Now there is something I cannot understand. What is there about pageants that attract gay men? I mean you dont like women. It sounds just a bit hipocritical for you to try to run pageants of women. Tell you one thing, if some gay dude puts his hands on me during a pageant, somebody is going to get kicked where it hurts and i dont care if its the ED! Go have your own pageants with men and leave us gurls alone. (NT) -- No name, 22:24:59 11/19/09 Thu Wow.....where to begin responding to the comment above????? Let's just say I doubt most people feel this way. I for one don't and neither does my daughter, not by a long shot. In fact this is pretty much the exact opposite of how we feel. (NT) -- No name, 04:30:06 11/20/09 Fri A broad with that attitude won't have to worry about ANY dude--gay or straight--putting his hands on her. Probably a closeted butch diesel. (NT) -- No name, 08:13:43 11/20/09 Fri Gay men do not hate women, they just like men as partners, but they can be a females "bestest" friend ! (NT) -- ...and they sure as heck know fashion !, 08:51:41 11/20/09 Fri What a prejudice statement. Just because your gay does not mean you know interior decorating and how to do hair. Their are gay rednecks that don't know much more than flannel and wranglers. (NT) -- No name, 16:45:06 11/20/09 Fri You can forget that trash because I don't want no gay fruitloop as my bestest friend. If I want to know fashion, I will ask my mom and certainly not some closet queen. Dang fruitloop better keep his distance from this girl, keep his paws to himself and his tacky ideas too. (NT) -- No name, 22:09:51 11/20/09 Fri I, for one, wish you'd publish your name next to your insulting, name-calling, hate filled posts so we could ALL be sure to steer totally clear of you........ (NT) -- No name, 04:10:59 11/21/09 Sat I agree - would love to know who this closed-minded person is. I'd also like to steer clear of the poster who wishes they'd ask her that "lame question." What winners they both are! Geez, I reallyl hope neither (or maybe even just the same poster for both posts) is a titleholder now or ever will be. (NT) -- No name, 17:34:17 11/21/09 Sat Oh do I hope they ask me that lame question about what I think about same sex marriage and I will certainly tell them what I think. Which just maybe more detailed than Miss California USA had to say. I am for kicking gays out of our pageants too. While we are cleaning up MAO, lets clean up the morals too. (NT) -- No name, 22:13:01 11/20/09 Fri

Subject: Any winners yet from teen and miss ncusa?
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 19:04:54 11/14/09 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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teen winner: Lauren Martz. Now, getting results in haphazard way, but Courtney Hardin was 2nd ru in teen, and Mya Hipps was 4th ru in Teen. Don't know 1st r 3rd rus. (NT) -- No name, 19:09:15 11/14/09 Sat any news on side awards (NT) -- No name, 19:34:34 11/14/09 Sat Dang, from photos Martz, and Sowards look alike! (NT) -- No name, 19:48:43 11/14/09 Sat Teen Winner: Lauren Martz; 1st RU - Sigmon; 2nd RU - Hardin; 3rd RU - Cooper; 4th RU - Hipps (NT) -- No name, 19:49:44 11/14/09 Sat WINNER: Nadia Moffett... 1st RU - Erin Hendricks 2nd RU - Amanda Barnes 3RU- Ashley Jordan 4RU - K. Jordan (NT) -- No name, 19:50:31 11/14/09 Sat Miss Winner: Nadia Moffett; 1st RU - Hendricks; 2nd RU - Barnes; 3rd RU - A Jordan; 4th RU - K Jordan (NT) -- No name, 19:50:37 11/14/09 Sat Re: Congratulations! Great panel of judges! (NT) -- No name, 20:04:35 11/14/09 Sat Re: Who were the judges? (NT) -- No name, 20:21:38 11/14/09 Sat Paula's friend & cronies (NT) -- No name, 06:10:38 11/15/09 Sun YOU poor sport! I know Paula and her pageants produce winners! She uses celebrity judges and or judges with experience and knowledge of what the Miss USA system is looking for. (NT) -- No name, 14:44:42 11/15/09 Sun All of the people that work at USA are very kind and caring. They know there are only two crowns to be won and they go through the process of explaining how important it is to the other 97 or more contestants to learn and grown from their experience and keep pursuing their dreams whatever they may be. My daughter has gained so much confidence from this system and was made to feel "at home". (NT) -- No name, 15:56:32 11/15/09 Sun To Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm......That's great. You just keep on smiling as RPM Productions keeps on blowing sunshine up your....well, you get the picture. Call me when you get a crown. (NT) -- I'll make you feel "at home" too.....for 1000.00, 19:44:23 11/16/09 Mon $1000.00 , well if you think the MAO girls don't pay that and more during their quest for the title .... you are the one who is in fantasy land. (NT) -- No name, 06:20:08 11/17/09 Tue AMEN!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- No name, 09:59:56 11/17/09 Tue That's the durn truth! If a gurl does win a local title, she is still in the red financially and how much more is she going to have to pay out to compete at state? Most locals don't support their queens that well at state and the girl ends up paying out more. (NT) -- No name, 06:40:12 11/21/09 Sat To compete at the state USA pageant, girls pay $1000 + all other competition expenses. For girls to compete in MAO, they pay $100 for a local prelim for CMN fee then another $250 for CMN for the state level (total of $350 entry fee if you want to call it that - compared to the $1000 entry fee for USA) plus the competition expenses. Sounds like the less expensive program is MAO to me. (NT) -- No name, 08:34:17 11/21/09 Sat No you have work weekend hotel expenses and a whole week of hotel expense for the pageant. Compared to a 2 day hotel (really only 1 nights stay) expense at USA. (NT) -- No name, 10:57:31 11/21/09 Sat Girls have a work weekend for USA, too (the Forum, which many attend and have to stay overnight). Yes, they have a week of competition, but until this year they haven't had to pay anything to stay, and even this year, if they (or their committee) gets a golf team and sells 2 ads (it may be two golf teams - not sure of that), they still don't pay anything. But it's the committee that pays the fee for the girl to stay the week, not the girl (at least I would hope there is no committee that would make their titleholder pay that fee). But I guess if they did have to pay the fee for the week at Peace College, it still wouldn't surpass the $1000 fee even with the CMN requirement. Sorry, it's still less expensive to pay the required fees for MAO than it is to pay the required fees for USA. (NT) -- No name, 17:29:03 11/21/09 Sat And USA girls also have to pay hotel and food and other costs for the two nights they have to stay in High Point for the actual competition, too. I'm only talking the required amounts, too, not any extra expenses girls pay for their personal wardrobe choices, etc. for competiting. When you look at what's REQUIRED, it's still cheaper to do MAO. (NT) -- No name, 17:31:39 11/21/09 Sat

Subject: CLASS ACT PRODUCTIONS

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Date Posted: 17:19:44 11/21/09 Sat

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Subject: what is a good song to sing for talent?
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 17:17:14 10/15/09 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Too broad. Depends on the vocalist. (NT) -- No name, 20:18:01 10/15/09 Thu The best song to sing for talent is Sir Mix-a-Lot's "Baby Got Back." Trust me. No contestant has ever lost singing this one! (NT) -- The Rock, 05:54:03 10/19/09 Mon That and Supa-Freak are unbeatable (NT) -- No name, 07:55:27 10/19/09 Mon I'm too Sexy is a winner too (NT) -- No name, 10:20:07 10/19/09 Mon Anything by Lil' Kim (NT) -- No name, 10:30:18 10/19/09 Mon Wow...this goes to show how pathetic some of you people are! Someone asks a decent (NT) -- question and then you all have answers from a 10 year old. Grow up!!!, 11:18:54 10/19/09 Mon like you helped either... (NT) -- screw you, 13:36:13 10/19/09 Mon Please...if you need to ask what song to sing, then you should do a monologue! (NT) -- No name, 03:46:23 10/20/09 Tue This question cannot be accurately answered on the board. Your song choice is depends on factors that cannot be determined here. We don't know you r voice quality, range, key etc. You would be better suited to invest in a professionals opinion that you can physically meet with. In other words, it will be worth the investment for you to spend a little money on this, if you are serious, that is ! (NT) -- No name, 07:04:06 10/20/09 Tue What is the problem with doing a monologue? (NT) -- No name, 18:43:15 10/20/09 Tue You won't win. (NT) -- No name, 07:27:02 10/22/09 Thu Wow, I find it very suprising that you said "You won't win" if you were to do a monologue. There are very fews girls in which do monologues for talent and I believe that it is because there is no talent like it. Actors are extraordinary people. It is ashame that you have never seen a girl perform a monologue and win because everytime I see it done..they at least win the talent award. (NT) -- No name, 10:18:40 10/22/09 Thu I agree that actors are extraordinarily talented...I never said they weren't...I just said that you won't win if you do a monologue. Life is not fair...and neither are pageants. It's a fact....I know in the last 40 years no MNC has ever done a monologue and, to my knowledge, no winner from NC or any MA winner ever did a monologue. I was just stating a fact. (NT) -- No name, 19:10:58 10/24/09 Sat good point (NT) -- No name, 03:14:43 11/04/09 Wed It's a preposterous question, so forgive me and others for pointing that out through sarcasm. (NT) -- The Rock, 13:15:10 10/21/09 Wed Sheila E - The Preposterous Life. Helps if you can play drums too. (NT) -- Rock's Evil Twin, 14:42:37 10/21/09 Wed First, choose a song that you can sing really well. I don't care how much you like a song, if you really can't sing it well (and I mean really well), don't choose it. Second, it should be a song that you feel good singing because your reaction to the song will be evident in how you sing it. I know lots of people say you should choose a song that the audience is familiar with, but I don't think that's absolutely necessary. What I do think is important, though, is that you love singing the song. Even if the song isn't a well-known song, IF you feel good singing it AND you can sing it really well, it will be an audience pleaser. That's just my 2cents' worth. Hope it helps. (NT) -- No name, 20:49:46 10/21/09 Wed First, read the OP's question. Second, ask yourself, would someone who can sing "really well" ask this question. Third, doesn't it seem more likely that the OP was only baiting the crowd here with a hogwash question, warranting hogwash responses? (NT) -- The Rock, 06:16:43 10/22/09 Thu Actually, I don't try to psychoanalyze every poster's intentions when they ask a question. I was simply trying to answer a question in good faith, thinking it might even help others who are trying to make choices. I'm not sure why you want to question my reason for answering a question. Whatever happened to plain ole kindness and consideration? I'm not saying the above responses were uncalled for; in fact, I think they're quite humorous. I was just trying to be helpful. (NT) -- No name, 06:22:56 10/22/09 Thu I figured this must be a joke. Why would anyone rely on this board for actual talent songs. Hopefully they have someone assisting them. (NT) -- No name, 06:57:15 10/22/09 Thu perhaps the poster is new to pageants and just trying to get her feet wet and try out pageants to see if she likes it before commiting lots of time and money. Or perhaps she doesn't have the money to hire a professional advice. Perhaps she thought that the self-proclaimed experts on this board might offer some helpful advice.... not realizing the specialty of many of the posters here is unconstructive bashing, not useful advice. Kudos to the poster who tried to actually help out and be a positive influence. (NT) -- No name, 09:14:48 10/22/09 Thu I'm the original poster....thanks to those who left my daughter and I positive comments this is our first time doing a Miss NC prelim..and for those smart A$$E$, you are the reason this pageant system gets a bad name...jealousy is an ugly color to wear on stage..... (NT) -- No name, 09:43:16 10/22/09 Thu If this is your first prelim, do yourself a favor and do not come to these boards for guidance. Better yet, stay off the boards so you do not get your feeling hurt. This is not an advice board. (NT) -- No name, 10:10:04 10/22/09 Thu Why are you here then? Heck what's the purpose of this board at all? Then it needs to be REMOVED!!!!!! (NT) -- No name, 10:17:10 10/22/09 Thu She is right, its not an advice board, really.....as near as I can tell the purpose of th board is to allow spectators and other participants spread unsubstantiated rumors and say ugly things about the crowned girls without repercussions. If your daughter is planning to compete, then really, it is best not to read what's here since there is little benefit to her or you and a large chance for hurt feelings. The above poster was just trying to give you some helpful advice and save you a lot of pointless stress. (NT) -- No name, 14:41:14 10/22/09 Thu liar!! I am the original poster. I am laughing at all of you right now. Like a "mother" would make a post without identifying her intentions... like this... "Hey y'all... my little girl wants to do sing in a pageant. What do you recommend for her? She's classically trained, and prefers Verdi to Puccini. " Gimme a break!!! (NT) -- No name, 09:41:32 10/23/09 Fri SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD???????? (NT) -- No name, 15:59:18 10/22/09 Thu We discuss items related to Miss NC Pageant. (NT) -- No name, 21:22:20 10/22/09 Thu discuss??? hmmm, ......more like libel, slander, backbite, belittle, disparage, slam, smear, rumor about, attack, besmirch, sneer at, rip apart, criticize, bash, nit pick, scathe, and excoriate.......its all the same to some on this board, isn't it? (NT) -- No name, 08:11:04 10/23/09 Fri Libel??? Slander??? Nothing here has EVER qualified for those legal distinctions. But at least you used the word excoriate. I like that. (NT) -- No name, 14:40:34 10/26/09 Mon Good description of board! lol (NT) -- No name, 08:43:38 10/27/09 Tue hahaha..I know you are being facetious... I could point to at least 4 posts that easily rise to the legal definition of libelous and could easily give ground for a suit that have been made in the past month alone, and its been a quiet month on the board. And yes, I do have the expertise to know the legal definition of libel vs the colloquial use. Ladies, I'd be careful about unsubstantiated libelous statements if I were you. Your identity is easily obtainable for a private investigator's minimum retainer and I'm sure your parents would hate to be slapped with a lawsuit due to your actions. And yes, the law does hold your parents responsible for your actions if you are a minor. With lawyers costing $300+/hour it doesn't take long to financially ruin your family...so before you lie or cast aspersions about someone, think first is all I'm saying. (NT) -- No name, 07:09:43 10/28/09 Wed It's clear you are neither an attorney, nor possess any clue (as you aver) as to the legal standards which must be met in order to prove libel. Please stop trying to intimidate free speech here, no matter how unflattering it may be here. While the general sentiment you express for encouraging civility is all warm and fuzzy, boards such as these often flourish on rumor and controversy. Perhaps you don't patronize many other message boards, because what's said here is truly tame in comparison to some of the bashing that goes on. Your advice for kindness is well-intentioned, but I'm quite sure you're not ready to practice law. (NT) -- No name, 12:04:34 10/28/09 Wed Re: It's clear you are neither an attorney, nor possess any clue (as you aver) as to the legal standards which must be met in order to prove libel. Please stop trying to intimidate free speech here, no matter how unflattering it may be here. While the general sentiment you express for encouraging civility is all warm and fuzzy, boards such as these often flourish on rumor and controversy. Perhaps you don't patronize many other message boards, because what's said here is truly tame in comparison to some of the bashing that goes on. Your advice for kindness is well-intentioned, but I'm quite sure you're not ready to practice law. (NT) -- No name, 13:45:35 10/28/09 Wed You are wrong about my knowledge of the law. In fact the legal standard to file suit for libel is remarkably low. If those people posting lies and innuendo feel intimidated by the thought of defending themselves to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees because they think character assissination is cute or funny or in some warped way going to win a title, then so be it. I am merely passing along information to those who might not have realized how serious their actions could alter their financial lives if they anger the wrong person with a deep pocket book and good counsel. (NT) -- No name, 13:53:56 10/28/09 Wed Please read my previous post very carefully. (click down) -- No name, 19:26:19 10/28/09 Wed and please read my post above very carefully, as well -- No name, 11:43:22 10/29/09 Thu Spreading lies or unpleasant comments on an internet message board does not equal libel. That is MY point, and the crux of my disagreement with you. Click in. -- No name, 12:28:55 10/29/09 Thu Should be INcorrectly above!!! Missed it while editing!!! (NT) -- No name, 12:30:23 10/29/09 Thu yes, you are incorrect. -- No name, 17:12:11 10/29/09 Thu Wow. Off the mark on so many counts. -- No name, 18:25:58 10/29/09 Thu I made my points, you made yours. -- No name, 20:09:41 10/29/09 Thu Still waiting. -- No name, 13:06:28 10/30/09 Fri AMEN , WHOEVER YOU ARE THANK YOU! IT'S ABOUT TIME! -- WHO'S THE REAL ANTAGONIST ?, 14:39:31 11/03/09 Tue Further, if other Boards post more libelous statements is of no matter to this discussion. The discussion was about THIS board and THESE comments, which some do ,in fact, rise to the standard of libel. And, in my opinion, kindness and civility ought always be welcomed in a public forum, particularly when dealing with people's hopes and dream, not to mention their reputations. Comment on the girls' hair or wardrobes or talent ...fine... but character assissination is another matter entirely and some of the people on this board don't seem to know when they have crossed the line from opinion to libel. I am suprised someone as eloquent as you are would think to argue for continued incivility and rumor. (NT) -- No name, 13:54:44 10/28/09 Wed Find a good voice teacher in your area, one who has experience and a college degree in vocal performance. They can help you find the most appropriate selection for your voice and help you polish that piece to perfection. Don't waste your time with someone who isn't a professional coach as much damage can be done to your voice by someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Vocal damage is permanent. If you can't locate someone on your own, call the music department at the college or university closest to you and see who they recommend. (NT) -- No name, 18:21:01 10/23/09 Fri Excellent advice ! (NT) -- No name, 10:40:30 10/26/09 Mon Agree this is great advice. (NT) -- No name, 13:34:18 10/26/09 Mon Duh! Common sense. (NT) -- No name, 09:27:11 10/27/09 Tue But many on this board do not utilize that! (NT) -- No name, 15:10:59 10/27/09 Tue It sounds very simple but in fact isn't at all. Proper vocal training takes years not just a few weeks before an event. Secondly, few vocal coaches will even get involved in pageant work. Vocal coaching isn't cheap and I personally know of NO voice coach who will donate his or her services. The next problem is the 2 minute time limit. How many songs do you know that are 2 minutes in length? Then you have to involve an arranger who can make the appropriate cuts to get the song under 2 minutes. Then you have to deal with the copyright holder who might not be so willing to allow his or her song to be edited. Most will require the payment of a fee. Even if you can find a song and get the right coach, you have to deal with the rights to perform the song which also involves a fee. Few people are actually aware of the complexity of singing as talent. (NT) -- No name, 21:47:07 10/29/09 Thu Depends ...can you belt ? (NT) -- No name, 13:32:47 11/03/09 Tue Uh belting is forcing and forcing causes all kinds of problems vocally, such as harsh sound and singing flat. Not to mention that any kind of forcing in singing does damage to the voice. Vocal damage is permanent. (NT) -- No name, 10:29:35 11/07/09 Sat Well, maybe your definition is different than mine..... a lot of famous singers are said to "belt" ...... (NT) -- Making Lotsa $$ , too, doing that ....yeah .........., 13:45:40 11/07/09 Sat More fallacious information forme to rebut on this thread. Makes me wonder if it's from the same ill-informed legal adviser whom I debunked earlier. But here ya go wrt to belting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_(music) Note that it is possible to "belt" without permanently damaging the voice. There are man other sites refuting the previous poster's myth. Jyst let me know if more proof is required to dismiss this case. (NT) -- No name, 09:45:33 11/09/09 Mon Re: More fallacious information for me to rebut on this thread. Makes me wonder if it's from the same ill-informed legal adviser whom I debunked earlier. But here ya go wrt to belting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_(music) Note that it is possible to "belt" without permanently damaging the voice. There are many other sites refuting the previous poster's myth. Just let me know if more proof is required to dismiss this case. (NT) -- edited for bad typing skills!!!, 09:46:32 11/09/09 Mon basically there is much debate on belting, its potential damage, and how to protect against damage. This is not a black-and-white, cut and dried issue. It is open for debate (as is the subject of libel, incidentally). In both cases, the individual needs to decide how much risk they are willing to take. -- former belter who did fine with it but who knows other singers who developed nodes & blame belting., 14:57:59 11/11/09 Wed They may have blamed it fr their nodes, but I know people who have hardley sung a note who have them. -- No name, 08:52:43 11/12/09 Thu Re: Depends ... can you belt ?? (NT) -- No name, 16:28:45 11/21/09 Sat As a voice instructor at a NC university I have to offer my expertise in this area. Many popular singers "belt" but their careers do not span but a few years and their voice is gone. Belting is never a replacement for good training under a qualified teacher. I NEVER allow singers to belt. Belting is forcing. Calcium deposits do begin collecting on the vocal folds and in time form nodules. There is a treatment but the singing career is over. Think about it. Your voice has to last a lifetime. (NT) -- No name, 17:29:10 11/13/09 Fri

Subject: Miss UNCP contestant pics are up on the website....www.uncp.edu and go to student life.....and then to Miss UNCP pageant and you will see the ladies....there are originally 12 competing but only 8 contestants are posted...
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 10:01:37 11/21/09 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Re: Miss UNCP contestant pics are up on the website....www.uncp.edu and go to student life.....and then to Miss UNCP pageant and you will see the ladies....there are originally 12 competing but only 8 contestants are posted... -- No name, 11:11:11 11/21/09 Sat good question..... -- No name, 11:48:36 11/21/09 Sat Because she meets the requirements, has what it takes and should be allowed the opportunity to compete. -- Better question: Why do you care so much and whats it to you if she does?, 16:26:51 11/21/09 Sat

Subject: What prelims are left that are open??
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 19:12:19 11/19/09 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Harnett County, Cape Fear, Spivey's and Central Carolina.... (NT) -- No name, 16:36:01 11/20/09 Fri

Subject: Who is the Moderator?
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 18:09:32 11/11/09 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Board owners are anonymous. (NT) -- No name, 18:58:11 11/11/09 Wed Good Luck... this is the question that is asked over and over again on here to no avail............ (NT) -- No name, 08:50:12 11/12/09 Thu Floyd (NT) -- No name, 04:21:39 11/15/09 Sun He was one of my favorite 3rd-tier characters on The Andy Griffith Show. So glad he's here. (NT) -- No name, 10:56:14 11/16/09 Mon Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! (NT) -- No name, 13:07:27 11/17/09 Tue It's the Wizard of Oz!! That's who! (NT) -- No name, 13:54:54 11/17/09 Tue No, it's the Wicked Witch of the West (NT) -- No name, 12:40:08 11/18/09 Wed Oh no that is one of the main posters on the board. (NT) -- No name, 14:47:53 11/18/09 Wed And what about the Wicked Witch of the East? (NT) -- No name, 14:18:26 11/19/09 Thu She is a former clapper and a bitter has-been, hahaha! (NT) -- No name, 13:55:13 11/20/09 Fri

Subject: Who's competing in Miss Cabarrus Co tonight??
Author: Good luck to all the ladies! [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:11:23 11/07/09 Sat Just wondering if anyone knew who is competing in Cabarrus tonight both Miss and OT. I know Marcie Trivette is doing it but haven't heard much from anyone else about who is going to show up. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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contestants are listed with photos on www.misscabarruscounty.com -- No name, 11:52:35 11/07/09 Sat What do you click on to get the contestants? I didn't see it on the website? -- Thanks!, 12:24:20 11/07/09 Sat Right on the home page, click on "Miss and OT 2010 Contestants" - right in the middle of the page -- No name, 12:40:51 11/07/09 Sat Is there anyone who can send us updates? -- No name, 16:51:15 11/07/09 Sat Winners please? -- No name, 19:59:31 11/07/09 Sat Oh my gosh the talent tonight at Cabarrus was pitiful especially in OT and in the Miss also. -- No name, 20:11:26 11/07/09 Sat Agree with OT talent, however, the winner looks to have good technique but could use stronger choreography. In the Miss, I thought talent eas good for 1RU and irish dancer (but poor costume choice). The guest entertainers had the better talents. -- No name, 21:20:12 11/07/09 Sat The guest entertainers were Miss and OT from locals -- No name, 07:18:37 11/08/09 Sun Whitney James, Stevie Rivenbark, Molly Deans, Maddisson Sheppard, Katherine Puryear, Michelle Braxton. Might have left someone out; if so, I apologize. Pageant lasted well over 3 hours. -- No name, 07:38:39 11/08/09 Sun Visting queens? -- No name, 07:44:04 11/08/09 Sun Statesville, Stanly, Greater Sandhills, Wake, Gastonia, - don't remember OTs. -- No name, 07:57:16 11/08/09 Sun any standouts from visting queens? -- No name, 08:02:43 11/08/09 Sun I think they all looked great. -- No name, 09:33:57 11/08/09 Sun Gastonia org. has 2 queens, Gaston County & Gastonia I think Gaston County was there not Gastonia -- No name, 08:06:00 11/08/09 Sun You are correct; it was Miss Gaston County who was there. I get the titles confused all time. Sorry 'bout that. -- No name, 09:33:20 11/08/09 Sun I was actually sitting close to Miss Gaston County and I was very displeased. Her and her OT were gossiping about each contestant and giggling the entire pageant. I am sure they wouldnt want other to do that when they are competing. -- No name, 15:53:44 11/18/09 Wed yes, it was Gaston County visiting this pageant. -- No name, 18:37:37 11/19/09 Thu Don't say someone was doing something if you don't know for sure, I'm sure a lot of people were talking to each other at moments during the pageant. Thats not to say they were talking bad about contestants. -- No name, 19:34:20 11/19/09 Thu

Subject: Miss Statesville's Outstanding Teen 2010
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 08:37:07 11/19/09 Thu 1) Ashtin Gill (Former Statesville Dogwood Queen) 2) Claire Jeffer 3) Monterai Adams 4) Rachel Griffin 5) Mindy Pope (Former Cabarrus County OT) 6) Emily Outen 7) Breanne Perkins 8) Sarah Munday 9) Caroline McMurray (Carol Featherstone's Grand daughter) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Great job Statesville. Nine OT contestants. Good luck to all the young ladies. -- No name, 09:20:00 11/19/09 Thu Lots of contestants! What are their talents? Should be a good pageant. (NT) -- No name, 11:32:30 11/19/09 Thu

Subject: Miss Statesville's Outstanding Teen 2010
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 08:33:24 11/19/09 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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When and where is this pageant being held? (NT) -- No name, 10:19:35 11/19/09 Thu Nevermind. Found it on the website. http://www.missstatesville.org/ (NT) -- No name, 10:20:42 11/19/09 Thu

Subject: Anna needs to lighten up.. If you claim to be a Christian then your attitude needs to show it!
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 16:00:56 11/14/09 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Who and what in the world are you talking about? If you don't have the guts to spill what you're really talking about, then don't post please. (NT) -- No name, 16:09:24 11/14/09 Sat Re: Anna needs to lighten up.. If you claim to be a Christian then your attitude needs to show it! -- No name, 18:20:23 11/15/09 Sun So, now being disappointedc is now a sin? We all must be sinners to the enth degree, then....even Christ was disappointed ! -- No name, 07:42:47 11/16/09 Mon Who the heck is Anna and what are you talking about? (NT) -- No name, 07:45:38 11/16/09 Mon This really pisses me off. If you truely know Anna then you know she is an amazing level headed Christian girl and she deserved to win this pageant but she didnt and she accepted that and did so with grace. I am very proud of you Anna! (NT) -- No name, 16:11:56 11/18/09 Wed It's just your opnion that she deserved to win, I'm sure that all the contestants thought that they deserved to win also! (NT) -- No name, 16:30:43 11/18/09 Wed Agreed. (NT) -- No name, 19:03:58 11/18/09 Wed Marcie, please stay off these boards! You and Anna both did a great job as did the rest of the young ladies. To be truly honest, No one in the Miss pageant had any talent, so we need to drop whom was better. Different day, different judges, different results. (NT) -- No name, 00:44:14 11/19/09 Thu no one but a few people in Cabarrus even know who she is but ever time she competes someone builds her up so Big and she never does that well they would do better to not even bring her name up on here. (NT) -- No name, 05:46:07 11/19/09 Thu Ignorance is bliss. Some people should not make these things an obsession. The judges picked who they thought would best represent the title and everyone should just sit back and deal with it. (NT) -- No name, 07:04:57 11/19/09 Thu

Subject: Miss Cabarrus is Marcie Trivette, OT isKatherine Ezzell
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 19:59:34 11/07/09 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Congrats to Miss Cabarrus is Marcie Trivette, and to the OT Katherine Ezzell -- No name, 20:30:36 11/07/09 Sat RU's??? prelim award winners? (NT) -- No name, 02:56:10 11/08/09 Sun Cabarrus 2nd RU - Anna Seagrovs; 1st RU - Kathleen Campagna; Talent - Campagna, Fitness - Seagroves, Congeniality - Adriane Watkins (NT) -- No name, 06:24:59 11/08/09 Sun Cabarrus OT 2nd RU - Allison Efird; 1st RU - Hayley Jordan. Fitness, Talent awards - Ezzell (NT) -- No name, 06:38:48 11/08/09 Sun GO ANNA! You know who this is...I have been waiting to hear the results! I am so proud of you for placing AND winning fitness! Your work has paid off and I am so proud of you! Miss you guys! (NT) -- No name, 10:37:54 11/08/09 Sun ANNA DESERVED THIS. Anna Seagroves is a very well-rounded competitor and I am not surewhat the judges saw that the audience didnt see. (NT) -- No name, 15:50:22 11/18/09 Wed I did not see it and I was in thw audience. She looked great in swim suit and that was about it. Her OSQ was not good and her talent was above average but not great. I was disappointed with her EG modeling as it fell short compared to SS. I am not sure if nerves got to her but her performance declined during pageant. (NT) -- No name, 16:21:13 11/18/09 Wed I didn't see it either! SS looked good but she is just not a pretty girl! (NT) -- No name, 16:25:27 11/18/09 Wed I was looking forward to seeing Anna on stage because I heard so much hype about her. I was in the audience as well, judged fairly and didn't pick her to win. Bombed the OS ?, SS wasn't all that great, she didnt stand out to me. I thought the right winner was chose, however I don't feel any of the contestants stood out. (NT) -- No name, 18:17:39 11/18/09 Wed Congratulations to Katy Ezzell on winning Cabarrus County's Outstanding Teen! It was a pleasure meeting you. I hope you have an awesome year! (NT) -- Hayley Jordan, 13:05:05 11/08/09 Sun What a go Katy! Congratulations on winning OT (NT) -- No name, 17:40:59 11/08/09 Sun Congrats Marcie Trivette. Beautiful Girl and she is actually from Cabarrus County! (NT) -- No name, 06:36:57 11/09/09 Mon Cabarrus County is closed so she would be (NT) -- No name, 11:22:02 11/09/09 Mon it's open to Rowan County as well, though. (NT) -- No name, 11:37:35 11/09/09 Mon Re: Miss Cabarrus is Marcie Trivette, OT isKatherine Ezzell -- No name, 10:29:38 11/10/09 Tue Re: Miss Cabarrus is Marcie Trivette, OT isKatherine Ezzell -- No name, 10:37:45 11/10/09 Tue I agree. I wonder how long the girls stood back stage before each area of competition. They had to get tired of waiting and waiting. -- No name, 20:07:30 11/10/09 Tue And there should be a rule that farewells take no longer than 5 minutes. This part of the Cabarrus pageant was almost 25 minutes long. -- No name, 23:42:13 11/10/09 Tue i agree the OT farewell was ridiculous to long, they should have put a page in program book to thank everyone they came in contact with in their year instead of on stage, they people were nor even there. -- No name, 05:55:11 11/11/09 Wed The OTs farewell was longer, but they were BOTH way too long. -- No name, 06:11:28 11/11/09 Wed Re: Miss Cabarrus is Marcie Trivette, OT isKatherine Ezzell -- No name, 13:14:34 11/10/09 Tue It is clear that Anna wants everyone to say that SHE should continue competing. -- No name, 19:03:04 11/18/09 Wed Re: It is clear that Anna wants everyone to say that SHE should continue competing. -- No name, 19:23:10 11/18/09 Wed

Subject: Let's get back to Miss NC prelims....who's competing in Miss Kinston this weekend?
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 08:50:58 11/17/09 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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dani jarman, molly deans, emily huneycutt, erin jackson are in it. all from the goldsboro pageant (NT) -- No name, 09:15:35 11/17/09 Tue Re: Let's get back to Miss NC prelims....who's competing in Miss Kinston this weekend? -- No name, 12:07:47 11/17/09 Tue Thanks ! -- No name, 12:21:47 11/17/09 Tue Let's get back??? Where did you think we were before? (NT) -- No name, 13:30:42 11/18/09 Wed all on the Miss NCUSA pageant..... (NT) -- No name, 17:09:31 11/18/09 Wed

Subject: Heard the North Carolina Girls were rocking it over at USA: Jocelyn Hunt and Amanda Sowards in Miss, Mya Hipps, Vanessa McCleland, Meredith McNelis, and Brandi Scott in Teen!
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 05:15:30 11/14/09 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Hunt looked beautiful in gown! I also think McClelland did great! (NT) -- No name, 05:37:27 11/14/09 Sat Sowards has an awesome body and Scott had personality with a capital "P"! (NT) -- No name, 06:34:48 11/14/09 Sat All four girls looked awesome in swimsuit! Hipps, McCleland and McNelis great first-timers at USA. Scott--MAJOR MAJOR IMPROVEMENT! (NT) -- No name, 07:58:36 11/14/09 Sat THINK HUNT WILL TAKE USA! (NT) -- No name, 07:58:56 11/14/09 Sat and if she doesn't she will act VERY ugly backstage afterward. (NT) -- No name, 13:07:40 11/14/09 Sat Agreed! I competed with her once and she has a TERRIBLE attitude (NT) -- No name, 18:00:37 11/14/09 Sat Yes Brandi has worked hard with a personal trainer from Greensbo ro. (NT) -- No name, 09:21:31 11/14/09 Sat Hate to break it to you, BUT, none of these girls will win the NCUSA crown. Mark it down. (NT) -- No name, 10:02:35 11/14/09 Sat IDK Hunt and Sowards looked pretty darn good last night (NT) -- No name, 10:13:52 11/14/09 Sat How old is Sowards? (NT) -- No name, 11:32:13 11/14/09 Sat 21 (NT) -- No name, 11:54:09 11/14/09 Sat Maybe not, but at least the can cross over into USA and do just fine. I doubt some of them could cross back over into Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 12:30:50 11/14/09 Sat Meant to say that not everyone can compete in Miss America system. (NT) -- No name, 12:35:39 11/14/09 Sat Also, don't think that anyone said that any of the above-mentioned teens would win, but that they did well. They were able to compete right along with the other girls. In fact, as far as modeling goes, these Teens were some of the very few who actually could! I couldn't believe the lack of modeling skills on that stage. (NT) -- No name, 12:34:18 11/14/09 Sat I attended my first NC USA pageant last night. Very interesting. I do think Hunt looked VERY nice in EG, but I also think a few others did as well. Sowards wore the same black EG that I've seen her wear a few times, and she looked good in SS although her ribs were distinctly showing. I've picked my winners based solely on last night's performances, and none of them have been mentioned here. I won't mention them either because I don't want to elicit any kind of negativity at all for them. I think the teen winner, though, might be someone new to the pageant scene. (NT) -- No name, 11:16:37 11/14/09 Sat I was close up that was not ribs that was all muscles (NT) -- No name, 11:53:32 11/14/09 Sat No it wasn't. Her ribs protruded quite a bit - believe me, I know the difference. I still think she looked good, but I know for a fact her ribs werer showing, as they were for a number of girls. (NT) -- No name, 12:22:16 11/14/09 Sat so she has ribs no fat on them geeesss !!!! (NT) -- No name, 12:50:20 11/14/09 Sat RPM rarely chooses a "newbie". Check your records. (NT) -- No name, 12:36:56 11/14/09 Sat Well, you said rarely. This could be one of those rare occasions. It's jmo by the way. (NT) -- No name, 12:51:43 11/14/09 Sat Interesting that you say "RPM rarely chooses a newbie." Are you implying this pageant is fixed? (NT) -- No name, 12:52:47 11/14/09 Sat Didn't Amanda compete last year/ That would make her experienced. (NT) -- No name, 15:08:15 11/14/09 Sat Yes and was 2nd runner up as a Teen (NT) -- No name, 17:45:32 11/15/09 Sun I heard it was a very weak year. No hotties at all. (NT) -- No name, 12:40:52 11/14/09 Sat Melissa L was a newbie (NT) -- No name, 13:10:37 11/14/09 Sat only a newbie to usa. (NT) -- No name, 13:42:54 11/14/09 Sat You heard wrong. Just in the Teen Division, there were so many beautiful girls. Some of their pictures just don't do them justice--particularly the new winner who is prettier in person. (NT) -- No name, 15:53:41 11/15/09 Sun keep us updated on who wins please -- No name, 13:37:02 11/14/09 Sat Wish I could be there....Good Luck to Kandis and Amanda ! -- No name, 15:17:09 11/14/09 Sat Re: Heard the North Carolina Girls were rocking it over at USA: Jocelyn Hunt and Amanda Sowards in Miss, Mya Hipps, Vanessa McCleland, Meredith McNelis, and Brandi Scott in Teen! -- No name, 16:33:17 11/14/09 Sat They've announced the top 15, but I don't know who they are. As soon as I was texted that the girl I hoped would make the cut didn't, I didn't ask who did make it. Sorry. If I hear anything I'll let you know. I'm just very disappointed, and to be frank, extremely surprised. (NT) -- No name, 17:14:54 11/14/09 Sat Ok, Top 15 Teens: Hill, Turner, Saunders, Baker, Koontz, Duncan, Bebeau, Martz, McClellend, Coope, Hardin, McCarty, Sigmon, McCaleb, Hipps (NT) -- No name, 17:17:38 11/14/09 Sat Sorry about some of the spellings: should be Koonce, Cooper, McCartney (NT) -- No name, 17:21:52 11/14/09 Sat Top 14 miss (missing one): Hollifield, A. Jordan, K. Jordan, Mills, Moffet, Sowards, Shope, Weeks, Barnes, Floyd, Hunt, Wetzel, Hendricks and Gilley. (NT) -- No name, 17:39:31 11/14/09 Sat Top five teen: Cooper, Metz, Sigmon, Hardin and HIpps. Top Ten Miss: A. Jordan, K. Jordan, Mills, Moffet, Shope, Barnes, Hunt, Hendricks and Reid. (NT) -- No name, 18:09:08 11/14/09 Sat Sowards is top ten miss - just found that out (NT) -- No name, 18:14:33 11/14/09 Sat Dang, there are some great prizes for the winners! (NT) -- No name, 19:08:06 11/14/09 Sat Better than MNC with way less work. (NT) -- No name, 19:39:41 11/14/09 Sat But the only person who gets prizes is the actual winner. (NT) -- No name, 19:47:50 11/14/09 Sat Got to be about over who are the winners? (NT) -- No name, 19:40:47 11/14/09 Sat WINNERS??? (NT) -- No name, 19:45:04 11/14/09 Sat Okay.....anyone know who the Miss winner is yet???? (NT) -- No name, 19:46:19 11/14/09 Sat Winner: Nadia Moffett (NT) -- No name, 19:48:38 11/14/09 Sat Proud of our NC girls over at USA. (NT) -- No name, 07:30:12 11/15/09 Sun Would that be called crown chasers? Can't decide what they want to be when they grow up? (NT) -- No name, 14:12:23 11/15/09 Sun It could be that they just like to compete. Don't see anything wrong with that. I see pageantry as a sport, but you don't see anybody bitching and complaining about "how many" games Baby Boy or Baby Girls wants to play in. (NT) -- No name, 15:44:29 11/15/09 Sun I agree totally, the person who called these girls "crown chasers" are obviously not too fond of folks who have hobbies. My own daughter's hobby is competing in pageants and it has brought her from being a shy, tongue-tied little girl, to a well-spoken young woman who isn't intimidated by anyone. Also, my daughter was never good at sports and so pageantry was something that she could participate in. I say go for it ladies. (NT) -- No name, 15:59:12 11/15/09 Sun i dont care what anyone says. amanda sowards is the fakest person i have ever met! I'm sure USA and MAO judges see it, all she has going for her is her looks. (NT) -- No name, 16:14:29 11/18/09 Wed

Subject: When and where is Miss Asheville/Miss WNC this year?
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 00:10:00 11/09/09 Mon Even better question, why are they allowing Miss Asheville to run around Charlotte falling all over the place drunk, making out with random men(and GIRLS??)There were pictures all over the internet...Sounds like a great representative to me...I dont even know the girls name but go ahead and crown a new one! At least Miss WNC is a class act. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Ha she is always drunk all over the place... -- No name, 07:01:36 11/09/09 Mon you must be thinking of someone else this years miss asheville has never been seen doing anything like that, nor have i ever even heard of her doing stuff like that -- No name, 08:36:18 11/11/09 Wed Thats funny cause there were pictures everywhere to begin with not to mention people from UNC Charlotte all talk and laugh about her drunken nights. It's sad that a city titleholder is known for that...but anyway when and where is the pageant this year? The website hasnt been updated in a long time. -- No name, 07:29:12 11/12/09 Thu Thats funny becuase i have never seen anything she has been a great title holder and the community loves her, please dont ask again when and where the pagent is because we dont want you there if you are going to try and start stuff about our title holder -- No name, 09:34:54 11/12/09 Thu I just checked the website and it appears to be updated. It includes date and location - Saturday, January 9, 2010 at Diana Wortham Theatre. -- No name, 09:50:31 11/12/09 Thu Re: When and where is Miss Asheville/Miss WNC this year? -- No name, 15:44:10 11/18/09 Wed >Her name is Jill Ayscue and no i am not a parent or a >sibling, or even a friend for that matter but I do >know that she is a down to earth, sweet person. >Unlike half of the preliminary contestants, SHE IS >REAL. with Jill what you see is what you get! and if >you are a contestant writing this, you should be >ashamed. everyone knows what goes on behind closed >doors. I like Jill and will always root for her. (NT) -- No name, 15:59:42 11/18/09 Wed thanks jill (NT) -- No name, 16:04:22 11/18/09 Wed

Subject: Predictions for Statesville OT this weekend? The only girl I know is Caroline Murray, cause she is Carol Featherstone's Granddaughter.
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 10:42:44 11/18/09 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I know Mindy Pope was Miss Cabarrus Cty OT 2009. She has improved significantly over the past year. Without knowing any of the other contestants, I think Mindy will be a strong contender. (NT) -- No name, 11:30:26 11/18/09 Wed

Subject: NC STATE BOO BASH 2009: PRELIM TITLE HOLDER BEHAVIOR DISGUSTING
Author: No name (FROWN) [Edit]	Date Posted: 13:51:24 11/14/09 Sat I had a business associate ask me about our city title holder's behavior at the NC State Boo Bash 2009. According to this person our representative to the Miss NC was seen publicly drunk, kissing males and females and humping the DJ and dancing on stage provocatively. What was I supposed to say to this person. They looked at me and said "guess your girls are catching up with the USA girls!" I told this person I did not know what was going on and I was sure this young woman would be held accountable and responsible for her actions. There were pictures on FACEBOOK of this public display. This "girl" obviously did not think about how her actions would embarass the city and community that she supposedly represents. So, I would like to know why this behavior was ignored? Why has her crown not been taken away????? This is totally unacceptable. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Has she already competed at the state pageant or does her title take her there next summer? If she has already been, let it go since she will soon be a former. If she is going next summer, perhaps you could approach her director instead of posting this on a message board. Now people will be wondering about all the girls crowned thus far. -- No name, 14:20:06 11/14/09 Sat Re: NC STATECharlotte BOO BASH 2009: PRELIM TITLE HOLDER BEHAVIOR DISGUSTING -- No name, 19:50:27 11/14/09 Sat Was she recently crowned, or about to relinquish? Might I ask if she was legal, and is she a student at NC State? -- No name, 20:27:25 11/14/09 Sat you know what screw you for real for putting this up here! I know who you are talking about and I was at this event, yes she was on the stage (which she probably shouldnt have been) but in no way was she "humping" the dj, making out with guys OR girls, or dancing provocativly, she was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time! get a life and stop trying to ruin other peoples, its pretty patheic to get on here and judge a 21 year old college student who probably has accomplished more in her life then u ever could in yours. -- No name, 21:48:06 11/14/09 Sat Who was it? -- No name, 09:40:58 11/15/09 Sun Heres the thing. You completely fabricated this shit. No one in the real world knows any freaking difference between MAO or "USA Girls" and definitly dont pay enough attention to stigmatize one group as much as we do on the boards. -- so stop lying just to tear this girl apart., 16:43:00 11/15/09 Sun Actually, that's not true....plenty of people, both men and women in the general public, are familiar with the differences between MAO and USA. You'd be suprised. (NT) -- No name, 19:42:37 11/16/09 Mon every person i've ever met in my life besides pageant people havn't the slightest clue of the difference (NT) -- No name, 21:01:57 11/16/09 Mon I completely agree. I have to explain the difference to many folks that would consider themselves "pageant" people. And I bet Miss America gets called Miss USA all the time and vice-versa. (NT) -- No name, 21:09:28 11/16/09 Mon And I disagree...many people do have an understanding of the difference. Some people do know there's a difference between USA and MAO even i they get the names mixed up. Perhaps the poster's business associate is simply well-informed. (NT) -- No name, 05:00:03 11/17/09 Tue No they don't and it was proven when the Carrie Prejean fiasco started. The news media kept saying Miss America needed to do something about their organization and pretty much everyone I know thought it was the MAO.... and still do no matter how much you try to differentiate. (NT) -- No name, 06:16:22 11/17/09 Tue

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