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Subject: Miss NC
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 20:09:54 07/03/09 Fri I have watched Katherine in her TV interviews this week. I hope State has someone that can help her with her speaking skills and with hair/makeup and wardrobe appearance outfits. When I see a Miss NC or Miss whoever, she needs to look the part. This is not being critical, but an observer that is proud of whoever wins. She just needs some polishing. I know she's been around a while now...maybe this is just her. But when you are making an appearance, I just expect a more polished, fresh look. She looked great on stage so I know she should know how to do. She should look at these videos and learn from them. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Oh you want another pageant Patty? Must be one of them old school Garner Pageant Patty's. I say her on several news interviews and she looked great and spoke wonderfully, just not programed. She wasn't my 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice but I'm proud to say she is Miss NC and I'm glad now that she won. -- No name, 20:43:35 07/03/09 Fri

Subject: To Funny
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 05:57:27 07/03/09 Fri I think it is hilarious how some people come on this board and give their "personal opinions" about the outcome of Miss NC or any other pageant. The judges picked who they wanted. I'm sure they did'nt ask your opinion when they did it. Get over yourselves. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What's wrong with giving personal opinions about an outcome? People do it for Presidential elections every four years. Get over yourself -- No name, 06:11:12 07/03/09 Fri I think it's hilarious when people come on here and can't spell --- to or too? LOL -- No name, 06:31:23 07/03/09 Fri Well, I don't find it "too" funny when people are being absolute assholes! -- No name, 14:41:08 07/03/09 Fri What do you think this board is for? It allows people to say whatever the heck they want to and they don't even have to own up to it. -- No name, 15:57:20 07/03/09 Fri I think it's sad there are so many chicken shit people who bash and hide! -- Mother Goose, 15:58:29 07/03/09 Fri Look at the title of this thread --- what did you expect? -- No name, 17:05:14 07/03/09 Fri STFU -- No name, 16:49:21 07/03/09 Fri wow such an insightful response (NT) -- No name, 18:15:26 07/03/09 Fri hahaha sometimes...that is the perfect response. (NT) -- No name, 20:12:00 07/03/09 Fri

Subject: Pageant Pics are up!
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 06:33:03 07/02/09 Thu Which MISS contestant's wardobe do you like best in each portion of competition. Opening- SS- Talent- EG- Caroline Princess- Finale- Still working on mine. Only positive remarks. Everyones taste is different. If you dissagree, just post yours. Will post when I finish looking! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Lenn did a great job with all the photos. I can't believe he took over 11,000 images - WOW! Anyway, I've looked at all the Miss girls in interview, and I'm surprised at how many still chose suits. And I have to say that although I think her dress was a tad too dress, Lily Templeton (Anson) looked absolutely fabulous. With a little styling help, that girl could be a top model. She is absolutely gorgeous in her interview photos. -- No name, 06:37:56 07/02/09 Thu holy cow batman! You're right. In her interview pictures, she looks absolutely breathtaking. Geeze, louise, the girl looks BEAUTIFUL. Amazing eyes and perfect makeup. Maybe she'll come back? -- No name, 08:04:15 07/02/09 Thu ttt -- No name, 08:02:03 07/02/09 Thu I loved Stevie Riverbank's gown but it was probably a little much for MAO. -- No name, 08:17:19 07/02/09 Thu Re: Pageant Pics are up! -- just me, 10:06:50 07/02/09 Thu www.pageantpics.com (On first pull-down menu, click Miss NC and OT pageant; on second pull down, click on either the Miss or OT to view the girls individually; and then on the third pull-down, click on the particular girl you want to see - you'll see every pic taken of her in every phase of competition, during the pageant luncheon, etc...) -- No name, 10:16:32 07/02/09 Thu OT Wardrobe - Interview - Mary Warren, Evening Gown - Kacy Lee, Fitness - Katherine Puryear, Talent - Mary Warren, Opening Number - Rachel Chavez, Finale - Brookelyn Riley (NT) -- No name, 11:05:44 07/02/09 Thu Miss Wardrobe - Interview - Lisa Mace, Evening Gown - Adrienne Core, Swimwear - Katherine Southard, Talent - Tiffanie Wagner, Opening Number - Lora Black, Finale - Amanda Sowards (NT) -- No name, 11:08:39 07/02/09 Thu I really did not like Mace's interview choice. It was just missing something and didn't really look good on her. (NT) -- No name, 11:24:48 07/02/09 Thu I thought Mace's interview outfit was just way too formal for interview. (NT) -- No name, 12:08:21 07/02/09 Thu I thought it was very cool --- different. (NT) -- No name, 06:32:16 07/03/09 Fri Please keep this MISS only! Dont mesh the 2. If you want to do OT's than please start a seperate post. You OT moms get to crazy, and I want to ready only about the miss. -- OP, 11:20:56 07/02/09 Thu Might as well look at it as all the same. Those OT's and Carolina Princesses keep the Miss NC in $. (NT) -- No name, 11:23:50 07/02/09 Thu Yes, but they don't buy the girls wardrobe. This is a MISS wardrobe discussion. (NT) -- No name, 12:18:43 07/02/09 Thu How rabid of you. And, not even an OT mom... -- No name, 06:10:03 07/03/09 Fri WHO THE HELL ARE YOU, THE BOARD POLICE....I'LL POST WHEREVER I WANT. THAT'S WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM NOW, TOO MANY HOLIER THAN THOU PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY RULE THE PAGEANT WORLD...NOT -- No name, 09:29:28 07/03/09 Fri I am the OP. I started the discussion for MISS contestants. To discuss their wardobe. Start a new thread for OTs if you want. it is to much to have miss and OT together. You OT moms do not know how to take any type of direction period. its annoying. -- No name, 09:53:43 07/03/09 Fri Sarah Portella looked beautiful in the pictures, how was her new talent? -- No name, 22:46:10 07/02/09 Thu Good, not great but good, she won a nft award that in itself says alot. -- No name, 17:34:48 07/03/09 Fri OT: Opening-Kacy Lee; Fitness-Katherine Puryear; Talent-many of them; EG-Arlie Honeycutt or Katherine Puryear; Finale: Brooklyn Riley and Katherine Puryear -- No name, 01:45:17 07/03/09 Fri I thought that Jill A. thought amazing in everything, i cant believe she didnt make the top ten...she looked 10 times better than last year -- No name, 19:34:14 07/03/09 Fri Miss: Gown- Ward, Talent- Rivenbark, S/S - Southard. Several opening number outfits looked great. -- No name, 20:04:13 07/03/09 Fri

Subject: OK....back up!!!! I wasn't at the pageant last week, but in looking at the pictures Sarah Portela played the marimba. Wasn't she a tap dancer last year and when she won the Miss Thomasville pageant? Why did she change?
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 20:03:28 07/03/09 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: What were your favorite talents during the pageant week this year?
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 13:28:29 07/03/09 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Rivenbark (NT) -- No name, 13:33:04 07/03/09 Fri Second that motion (NT) -- No name, 18:04:46 07/03/09 Fri Surprisingly I enjoyed the clogging and Mace's tap (NT) -- No name, 17:44:34 07/03/09 Fri Alycia McLambs comedic monolog was a nice break from the tap/sing/dance recital I was watching. (NT) -- No name, 18:06:59 07/03/09 Fri

Subject: An honest review
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 21:11:56 06/27/09 Sat Okay, so I was there tonight and thought I'd add my two cents to the board for those of you who were not in attendance. First of all, the pre-show was horribly boring. Kelly Fletcher performed and Dana Stephenson performed but the rest of the time was just silly, boring, banter with Dana Reason, Brooke McLaurin, Lorna and a few other formers who I just can't remember. So, on to the actual show. I love, love, love having the pageant in Meymandi Hall. Something about it just seemed so classy adn elegant - mildly reminiscent of the past. However, I hated the production itself. The fashion theme sort of worked but just wasn't pulled together tightly enough. For the first time I can honestly say that I would like to have seen more of Nina's dance recital:-) Michelle Braxton was a hoot as well and I would have loved for her to have been featured more too. So top ten - working from my memory here so bare with me: Swimsuit - the only ones I liked were Southards and Core. Beautiful bodies indeed! I thought Cabarrus was actually too thin and the rest of them just didn't look right for some reason. Talent - I have to say that I was extremely disappointed in the talent displayed by this group of young women. Southards was good but will need to be amped up quite a bit to be competitive at the national level. I loved Core - surprisingly. It was a very well choreographed clogging routine. I also really enjoyed Stevie Rivenbark and Lisa Mace, although I still can't figure out why they didn't mic the tappers better. The singers left very little to be desired. Jamie started out beautifully but just pushed and pushed her voice harder and harder until she just was flat. I felt for her! Cabarrus was just weak and should have picked a different song altogehter. And poor Garner was obviously sick or got a frog in her throat prior to singing. I would loved to have heard her really sing because she seemed to at least have some potential. At any rate, the talent was just mediocre adn I expected so much more at this level. Evening Gown was kind of lame for me as well. I gave top marks to Southard and Hunt, who was stunning in her red gown - the best of the bunch by far! Otherwise, I wasn't blown away at all. The gowns actually all seemed to be the same to me by the time it was over. They all just blended together. I was kind of taken aback that there was not a top five this year. That surprised me and I would love to know why that decision was made. The audience choice was obvious from the get go. That poor girl was definitly the oddball in the top 11. Pitiful really. The Carolina Princess number was so long and drawn out. UGH! Amanda Watson can not sing! She can hit notes, but she just can not sing. It's my opinion so please don't jump me for it. She is just not my taste when it comes to classical singers. Alan Clouse killed me with all the time wasted on frivolous "awards". He just rambled on and on and on . . . . Final- Lisa Mace - 4th runner-up. I love the drive of this girl and wish two girls could've won the title. She was on top of her game tonight and I thought she would place higher. Ashley Beasley - 3rd runner-up. This was a shock to me and still is since I can remember nothing - seriously, nothing about her at all! Jamie Hunt - 2nd runner-up. Not terribly surprised by this. Her gown was stunning, her talent was average and swimsuit was okay. I guess she was somewhat consistant in her scores all week. Adrienne Core - 1st runner-up. The double preliminary award curse strikes again. I really really liked this girl. She would have been an amazing rep. at Miss America. I truly believe that she was the point winner of the pageant. Miss NC - Katherine Southard. So pleased that this girl won the pageant. She is beautiful and could actually be one to watch in January. I'm excited for her. Okay, that's all I can think of for now. Nite-Nite everyone! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Re: An honest review -- Mantard, 21:57:25 06/27/09 Sat Who was the top 11 girl? -- No name, 22:01:45 06/27/09 Sat Re: I was shocked there was no on stage question either. I really did not like not having a Top 5 separate from the Top10. It totally killed the suspense and excited IMO. The auditorium was ok but the lobby was insane. If they have it there again they need to have a preshow every night instead of everybody standing in that tiny lobby on top of each other. Speaking of preshow what happened Saturday night? The preshow was so good Friday night. Performers were good, Jay Sauls is hilarious and talented. Saturday night's was a joke. Just one of the many inconsistencies at Miss NC. The production was great. Dancers were awesome as always and good singers this year. Somewhat surprised with the winner. She's just so plain. Nice girl from what I hear though. Agreed with everyone in Top 5 except Beasley. Where did she come from? -- No name, 08:07:59 06/28/09 Sun Actually, Johnston County looked good in swimsuit and gown and was fantastic in talent. She would have had my 2nd highest talent score, behind Mace. She was a very good dancer. -- No name, 08:30:04 06/28/09 Sun NONE of the talents would've scored more than a 5 in my book. Mace would be the exception but without her taps mic'd it was hard to really tell. -- No name, 08:59:00 06/28/09 Sun You're an idiot! -- No name, 09:06:45 06/28/09 Sun I think most of the talents in the 10 were awesome. I have taught dance for 16 year and I really thought Ward might have beaten Mace. I do agree with the decision but It was very close. I think she and Rivenbark, gave Lisa a run for her money. -- No name, 16:40:13 06/28/09 Sun I think Ward's costume hurt her presentation. I'm not going to say anything else because I don't want to sound negative, but Ward was nowhere close to Mace. -- No name, 16:45:21 06/28/09 Sun to say anyt -- No name, 07:33:56 07/01/09 Wed I agree with ward danced circles around lisa.I don't know either one of these girls and I own a studio. I come every year to watch and Ward is one of the best tappers I have ever seen. It had to be close between mace and ward. I'm guessing mace's gymnastic skills are what made for a points booster and set her over ward. -- No name, 07:40:51 07/01/09 Wed No sorry, I disagree...have studied as well as seen alot of dancer's and the problem is Mace makes it look so easy, which is what she is suppose to do. She was an excellent talent ! -- She wins IMHO!, 07:47:52 07/01/09 Wed I love Ward! -- No name, 10:07:11 07/02/09 Thu Stop teaching dance. -- No name, 19:14:52 06/28/09 Sun I agree - if you think Ward out-tapped Mace you can't be very good -- No name, 19:36:23 06/28/09 Sun Wards tapping was outstanding so was mace.... Now that mace has aged out ward is the new mace. The tapper no one will want to tap after. Both these girls are great and congrats lisa in everything you do you have gear things in store for you!! -- No name, 12:18:24 07/02/09 Thu Great* -- No name, 12:22:02 07/02/09 Thu As a dance instructor, I disagree with you. Ward was okay but she wasnt all that. There have been many tappers through the years better than Ward. -- No name, 13:46:39 07/02/09 Thu I have attended Miss NC every year since the mid 80s. The only other Tapper Ive seen even close to these two was Stacy Parker, I agree Ward will easily hold up the tap standards as Mace exits, I say bravo to both girls. -- No name, 19:46:22 07/02/09 Thu Then you clearly don't know tap dancing. -- No name, 03:27:28 07/03/09 Fri Oh good God. What do you want everyone to say? That Mace was/is the best thing from sliced bread? She is NOT that but she is good. We have all said it and thats all your going to get. If she was more than that then we would say it. You Mace fanatics need to REALLY CHILL OUT because this is so unlady like. And for those maybe males in the bunch I'm talking to you too. -- No name, 04:33:57 07/03/09 Fri Hahaha!! Unladylike? Pot calling the kettle black? -- No name, 06:35:03 07/03/09 Fri You don't know who the hell I am so stop your insinuations. -- No name, 12:32:31 07/03/09 Fri And Lisa'a supporters have been nothing but positive and optimistic. You're the one calling them FANATICS and telling them to CHILL OUT. -- No name, 13:12:10 07/03/09 Fri Look it up. It means extreme and uncompromising. That's about what I have witnessed -- No name, 13:38:18 07/03/09 Fri All I said was that YOU were not being very ladylike by being rude to them. I am not "one of them." I don't know Lisa; I don't know you. All I know is you were being rude by telling them they were not ladylike and calling them names. -- No name, 15:54:50 07/03/09 Fri People need to stop this...these girls would not want you arguing about this.....I mean did you see the top 10 reations.....Aryn and Lisa displayed a congratulatory affection on stage when they both were called and they also shared a dressing room...... -- Watch the Tape and Get Over it !, 12:17:26 07/03/09 Fri The talents of the Top 10 OTs were definitely better than Top 10 Miss. I was amazed at the OT talent this year. (NT) -- No name, 13:34:50 06/28/09 Sun With the exception of Sauls and a couple of performers - Friday preshow was awful. Friday night became the reason I did not attend Saturday's preshow. Also shows me why former OT queens probably are not ready for Miss yet, they spoke poorly or were boring and unprepared. -- No name, 09:47:30 06/28/09 Sun Someone is jealous that their daughter was not asked to perform during the Friday pre show. All of the girls did a great job and I look forward to all of them coming back for MNC. The next 5 years will be very interesting competition. -- No name, 10:13:09 06/28/09 Sun Re: Wow you must be a tough critic. I thought the Friday preshow had a good mix of talent and girls from each year. Their still teenagers what do you expect from them? I thought the questions Sauls asked were very appropriate and he seemed to make the girls feel very comfortable. Lighten up. At least I felt like I got my monies worth for my $45 ticket -- No name, 11:31:06 06/28/09 Sun Beasley was amazing. great ss body and pretty face. She had a great interview and her talent was great. She was a strong contender that noone paid attention to. Not a shocker to see her place after she stood out all week. -- No name, 14:08:40 06/28/09 Sun That wasn't Kelly Fletcher singing but Jennifer Smith -- No name, 12:49:23 06/28/09 Sun Kelly Fletcher singing but Jennifer Smith -- No name, 12:55:47 06/28/09 Sun oh yah, my bust. and to th other poster, no, I'm not an idiot - just a person with an opinion, no biggie -- No name, 13:08:27 06/28/09 Sun Those $10,000 or so CP's deserved thir time. Get over it! -- No name, 13:19:13 06/28/09 Sun Oh, I agree with you completely. I just thought the number was terribly long and boring. There have been really good CP number's in the past. I just didn't like this years. -- No name, 19:13:32 06/28/09 Sun How were the performances by the formers? What did they sing/do? -- No name, 15:33:38 06/28/09 Sun Jennifer did her talent from Miss America and was incredible. Dana sang Amazing Grace and was good but I don't particularly care for her voice. -- No name, 11:07:40 06/29/09 Mon I hate I missed Jennifer, then. Her rendition of "Half a Moment" is one of the best. -- No name, 11:49:15 06/29/09 Mon Jennifer actually did her talent when she competed with Scarlet. Jennifer was Miss Elkin Valley then and sang a medley On a clear day/Don't rain on my parade. That is what she sang Sat nite. Wished Lorna had sung during the preshow. I'm A Woman with Michelle and formers was the best talent all night! -- No name, 12:12:14 06/29/09 Mon Re: An honest review -- No name, 16:08:46 06/29/09 Mon Re: An honest review -- No name, 16:13:44 06/29/09 Mon Re: An honest review -- No name, 21:36:27 06/29/09 Mon Re: You should've come on Friday night. The preshow was not just foolish banter and it did last almost an hour. I wonder if it was the Miss NC board who organized the performers or the emcees? -- No name, 10:23:09 06/30/09 Tue The emcee schedules the performers for the preshow. -- No name, 10:25:33 06/30/09 Tue I don't know about Friday night's show being scheduled by the emcee but I know for a fact that Lane got what was there - period. He was not in charge of inviting (and by the way our only MA EVER was not invited to participate and that is why she did not go on stage as she felt she was not dressed appropriately). -- No name, 10:51:30 06/30/09 Tue As a former Miss NC, let alone a Miss AMERICA, coming to the pageant, she should have dressed appropriately. She had to know she would be asked to come on stage. That's just common sense. -- No name, 12:31:26 06/30/09 Tue All of the Formers were invited to be on stage and perform if they desired on Saturday night. Maria and a few others chose not to come on stage but to be recognized from the audience. If they had wanted to come on stage OR sing, they would have been prepared. All were given the invitation. I think they should do away with the pre-show. Many formers commented that it is not a show as they are simply stage dressing while the lights are up and folks chat in the house as well as in the lobby. Other formers don't want to be criticized and therefore choose not to perform. I say do away with the pre-show! -- No name, 12:53:33 06/30/09 Tue I agree. Do away with it. Most people don't want to tear themselves away from the wine bar anyway. I know I don't. -- No name, 13:41:40 06/30/09 Tue Why does it matter to you, if you don,t want to attend you arent expected to. Its you choice, I say keep it for the people who wish to see it. -- No name, 14:08:19 07/01/09 Wed The thing is, the Formers are not given the respect they deserve if lights are up and people are free to talk etc while they are on stage - it is demeaning. If the production/MNC org are not going to treat it as part of the show, then don't have it. Make it something special and promote it as such or do away with it. -- No name, 14:57:58 07/01/09 Wed I would like to see the special awards - voy, CMN, best local, etc. moved to the preshow to keep from running the other nights so long. In addition, I would prefer that the sponsors' acknowledgement be done just prior to the start of the show. If you try to attend at night as well as go to visitation AND work during the week it makes for very long days and nights. And while I'm offering my wish list, why not start the prelims at 7 instead of 7:30? First night it was 8:00 before it got started. I certainly understand that it was a new venue and the kinks had to be worked out but if we want folks to attend, we need to be timely and not drag it out so long. -- No name, 17:03:29 07/01/09 Wed I totally disagree about recognizing these people during preshow. If you had devoted so much of your time and MONEY to an organization, would you really want your recognition time to be during the preshow when people were so rudely standing and talking, not taking their seats, and totally be ignored? These people deserved their moment, and what did it hurt? It kills me that everyone wants these folks to do the work, but they don't want to be bothered when someone taks the time to actually say THANK YOU. And before you come back with some remark about me being a sponsor or someone that was recognized, no I was not, I am just a person that goes every year and sees the hard work these people put forth. -- No name, 04:56:00 07/03/09 Fri Formers ARE JUST THAT formers. Nothing special. The pudding is in the getting there and the night of. Both Miss NC and then Miss America. After is just well, after -- No name, 18:22:16 07/01/09 Wed Wow, if that is what you think then I hope you nor anyone you work with would ever win Miss NC. It so much more than just the finals of the state pageant and Miss America. Good thing is, most girls with this attitude never win. They make the worst representatives for their title. -- No name, 18:33:22 07/01/09 Wed the problem is , sometimes they do win...and after they are done , never to be seen or heard of again. -- No name, 07:35:09 07/02/09 Thu take off the rose colored glasses. many think like that -- No name, 13:50:27 07/02/09 Thu then we are doing our jobs as parents, teachers and friends to these girls and volunteers to this org - if the girl is weak after a few competition nights, she sets back the ENTIRE program. -- No name, 14:51:03 07/02/09 Thu

Subject: The news is that some of Jamee's pageant items were stolen and cut up......
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 16:59:25 06/29/09 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I heard this today myself from someone who knows Jamie. (NT) -- No name, 17:57:48 06/29/09 Mon why in the world would anyone want to do such a terrible thing to that young lady belongs. (NT) -- No name, 18:11:27 06/29/09 Mon Maybe THAT'S what Chelsea was doing when the pictures were being taken! LOL! Relax, I'm only joking. I'm sure no fellow contestant would do that to another contestant. I think I just made a second joke. (NT) -- No name, 18:34:16 06/29/09 Mon Joking or not, you should be ashamed of yourself for saying such a thing about Chelsea, whatever her reason was for not being in the picture. (NT) -- No name, 09:01:58 06/30/09 Tue Oh please...have you been reading the supposed reasons people have come up with as to why she wasn't in the picture. She should have just sucked it up and posed with a smile on her face no matter what and then there would be no speculation and no one would say she was a bad loser or whatever...don't tell me she couldn't have suffered through one photo. (NT) -- No name, 09:14:24 06/30/09 Tue Yes, she should have been in the photo. I was disagreeing with that. But making the statement that she was cutting up someone's gown or stealing items, that is another story. Her father is a lawyer I wouldn't go around making accusations like that, joke or no joke, It is not something that should be said about ANY contestant. Do you understand the difference of my statment now? (NT) -- No name, 11:31:43 06/30/09 Tue though it was kind of funny, people shouldn't say such things regardless if a parent is a lawyer (NT) -- No name, 07:17:19 07/01/09 Wed Just read this thread and that poster clearly stated it was a joke. This whole thread is one big rumor anyway isn't it? She could have lost stuff, etc...I don't think it's ever been proven that anything was stolen from anyone. At least it's better than those poisoning accusations of a couple of years ago (of course, that was OT and those people get crazy with their comments anyway). (NT) -- No name, 12:00:19 07/02/09 Thu Jamee never accused anyone of taking things. She handled it well. Her mother sent new shoes and she borrowed earrings. No big deal. She did a great job of handling and did not make a big deal out of it. Seems like someone just blew it out of proportion. (NT) -- No name, 06:10:01 06/30/09 Tue I'd say that if this sort of thing happened in the Miss or OT Division, it needed to be blown out of proportion. (NT) -- No name, 23:16:46 06/30/09 Tue I think you missed the point. The poster said Jamee never accused anyone of doing anything, meaning she didn't think anyone did. Her shoe strap could have broken on its own and probably did (that happens on occasion) and maybe she just forgot to bring her earrings. I doubt anything happened in regard to her dress being "cut up." That rumor surfaces almost every year and it's determined not to be true. In other words, all of this is just not true. (NT) -- No name, 04:05:58 07/01/09 Wed Maybe after this, the Miss NC org. will invest in some type of video surveillance system in the future...Sickening to me, and I don't know Ms. Hunt. Just sad!!! (NT) -- No name, 18:22:48 06/29/09 Mon ...and no, it's not expensive to do. (NT) -- No name, 18:24:22 06/29/09 Mon Well, last year Earrings were stolen, dresses stained and cut and still nothing changed this year, do you really think it will. (NT) -- No name, 18:24:50 06/29/09 Mon No, not really, just dreaming I guess. (NT) -- No name, 18:28:13 06/29/09 Mon Video Surveilance ? ... You can't do that , the girls have to change clothes and cannot be on any camera system. You could require accessories to be in a certain area that could be under surveilance,......... (NT) -- If Everyone Could Just Keep Their Hands Off of Other Peoples Stuff............ (That Would Work !), 07:02:03 06/30/09 Tue No duh...You don't actually think that anyone thought they'd have surveillance while the girls were changing do you? (NT) -- No name, 08:46:40 06/30/09 Tue I heard the same thing. From what I gathered she had some earrings stolen and had to borrow from a teen contestants. Also, I understand the straps on a pair of her competition shoes were cut.. Whoever has to try to win by doing things like that will NEVER be a winner. (NT) -- No name, 19:55:25 06/29/09 Mon I Miss NC Organization needs to be held responsible and pay for all the damage. Don't they have people assigned to that area overseeing things? Did this happen while she was competing? I am sure it affected her composure and personality while onstage. If so, I am damned proud of her for being able to pull it off and place. Most contestants would have crumbled under that pressure. (NT) -- No name, 20:44:01 06/29/09 Mon Re: The news is that some of Jamee's pageant items were stolen and cut up...... (NT) -- No name, 06:01:41 06/30/09 Tue I didn't know Laura and Blair were in it this year! (NT) -- No name, 13:00:04 07/03/09 Fri Every year there is some rumor that something horrendous happens. I've never, however, heard any of the girls excpet one last year who had earrings stolen actually come forth and report something. We don't know for a fact that this happened; someone just heard something and is now spreading rumor all over this board (of course, I guess most of what is here is rumor). One of the straps on her shoes could have just broken (it happens, you know). I just don't think we should start casting suspicion on anyone or the MNC org because of things someone hears from a friend of a friend of a cousin of a friend. (NT) -- No name, 06:16:26 06/30/09 Tue It happened! She was upset, but did not "make a stink" about it. However, I think that people who found out about it got upset that such a thing would happen. (NT) -- No name, 23:18:02 06/30/09 Tue Heard her talent dress got ripped up (NT) -- No name, 14:34:49 06/30/09 Tue We hear that rumor every year about some girl's dress. I bet that never happened, and I bet she found those "stolen" earrings once she returned home. (NT) -- No name, 05:33:24 07/01/09 Wed Dress was not "ripped", but never found earrings or shoes for that matter--one pair which was actually cut. (NT) -- No name, 02:42:47 07/03/09 Fri looked fine from the audience. (NT) -- No name, 15:07:07 07/01/09 Wed I dont understand why when it comes to Jamees things getting messed up no one believes it actually happened but when Amanda flat out lied about it happening her her stuff everyone completely dismissed the girls she said she "caught" doing it to her things. (NT) -- No name, 08:39:10 07/01/09 Wed How about an answer for this question Miss NC committee? (NT) -- No name, 14:58:13 07/01/09 Wed they should have had this in place already and not wait till the girl is crowned. (NT) -- No name, 16:49:28 07/01/09 Wed sorry. posted on wrong post. I was talking about an apt. (NT) -- No name, 16:50:17 07/01/09 Wed I believe it did happen. I was an OT Contestant and saw her borrowing earrings from another OT Contestant. (NT) -- No name, 06:41:40 07/02/09 Thu If you were an OT contestant, shame on youfor being on this board. If it was final night, double shame on you because you had to have been in top 11 to see what was happening to J. Shame, Shame, Shame (NT) -- No name, 06:55:02 07/03/09 Fri Agree the OT should not be on board. However could not have been final night since Miss were in the audience on Final for OT and OT's in audience for Miss Finals. So this would have had to have happened on one of the Prelim nights. (NT) -- No name, 07:31:02 07/03/09 Fri Come on. Like it or not the Voy boards are great sources of information. Not all people are on here to bash and just because a few are doesnt mean it should ruin it for the rest. If used right and moderated well the voy boards are great networking and social interaction sites. Have you visited the Guru and USB boards? Pretty much all pageant fans keep up on these sites for information and to share info with other people that have interest in pageants. Its not up to you to pass judement for someone just making use of the internet for its intended use: share of information and a meeting place for people all over the world. (NT) -- No name, 09:18:07 07/03/09 Fri I agree. Seems like it's more of the same for the judgmental Miss NC committee to try and tell "THE GIRLS" (that cracks me up) what they should and shouldn't do. STOP IT. It�s annoying and makes you look out of sink with today�s society. ANYONE who knows how to type VOY.com and has parental access to a computer should be allowed on the VOY board ,WITHOUT people trying to be silence them. GROW UP MISS NC and see that your "shame shame shame" comments make you look ignorant. My God, you are so judgmental AND YOU ARE 99% WRONG MOST OF THE TIME. P.s. why are YOU here anyway?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? (NT) -- No name, 12:43:11 07/03/09 Fri P-L-E-A-S-E! What does that make you then for being on the board? (NT) -- No name, 14:39:48 07/03/09 Fri

Subject: How should a Miss contestant wear her hair for interview and would it be wise to wear a bracelet during evening gown competition? My dress is strapless and I noticed Miss USA wore a bracelet when she won....
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 16:00:34 07/02/09 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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who cares? (NT) -- No name, 18:04:20 07/02/09 Thu no, NEVER wear a bracelet!!!! everyone who's anyone knows that MAO strictly prohibits the usage of bracelets!!!!!! oh please, do whatever the heck you want. it's you they're judging, so if you want a bracelet, get one (NT) -- No name, 18:16:02 07/02/09 Thu Well people seem to think it is terrible if you wear a necklace with your evening gown so whats wrong with this question? (NT) -- No name, 04:37:58 07/03/09 Fri seriously, if anyone took off points for a girl wearing a necklace, they should seriously seek help (NT) -- No name, 06:27:17 07/03/09 Fri Big hair my look great for stage portions but i would keep it natural for interview. Please, no buns which seemed to be the choice of 90's interview queens. Looks of girl prefer to were hair out of their face durring interview, like french twists or a sleek pony or pinned back but I would really just do what looks best on your face since its really a chance for judges to see your actual beauty up close. (NT) -- No name, 19:18:12 07/02/09 Thu You know. I have no idea if this is someone who really needs info or just someone with nothing better to do than play on this board. If you really need help....I suggest stay away from this board. Nothing will make sense! No one will agree! You will just be confused! You can go to pageantpics.com and see what contestants did this year HOWEVER, try everthing you can imagine.....you need to do what is best for YOU. It is OK to be an individual. Take some photos (in the dressing room while trying on is OK to do) and take the photos home and put on your computer (do no post on MySpace or Facebook) Get someone to view them that has NO emotional attachment to you and no pageant experience and see what they think! You really need someone whose opinion you trust to be by your side when preparing and competing for a pageant. Once you make a decision stick with it. Don't be swayed by what everyone is is doing. JMO (NT) -- No name, 06:02:18 07/03/09 Fri Hm, well, I wouldnt wear a bracelet in interview if it makes noise when it moves or slides around a lot because if you 'talk with your hands' it can be distracting. If you want to wear a bracelt in evening gown I would make sure it goes with the gown. If you have a lot of beading or stoning along the same area that your wrist lies by then you might be pulling the eye to the wrong place on stage with the added sparkle around your arm. Also make sure you choose the right option of thin bands, a thick bangle, just one or many; and also choose the right stons to match your gown: dont go with clear stones if the dress is AB or choose a stone the same color in your earring. Some people may think this much thought it ridiculous but really there are so many tiny details in EG presentation that, though they may not be immediatly noticable, make all the difference on the "whole" when put together. ALSO, most importantly, mack sure if you get a bracelet you dont have the type of fabric (NT) -- on your dress that will snag as your wrist slides across your gown. -TMI., 14:16:51 07/03/09 Fri uh lots of typos but...you get the point. (NT) -- No name, 14:17:59 07/03/09 Fri

Subject: Pageant Pics are up!!!
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:49:32 07/02/09 Thu Which OUTSTANDING TEEN contestant's wardobe do you like best in each portion of competition. Opening- Fitness- Talent- EG- Caroline Princess- Finale- Still working on mine. Only positive remarks. Everyones taste is different. If you dissagree, just post yours. Will post when I finish looking! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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OT Wardrobe - Interview - Mary Warren, Evening Gown - Kacy Lee, Fitness - Katherine Puryear, Talent - Mary Warren, Opening Number - Rachel Chavez, Finale - Brookelyn Riley -- No name, 11:50:14 07/02/09 Thu OT: Opening-Kacy Lee; Fitness-Katherine Puryear; Talent-many of them; EG-Arlie Honeycutt or Katherine Puryear; Finale: Brooklyn Riley and Katherine Puryear -- No name, 12:18:15 07/03/09 Fri Interview - Puryear; Opening - Byrd; Fitness - Pope; Talent - agree many of then; EG - Sheppard; Finale - not enough pic of each contestant to select -- No name, 13:53:24 07/03/09 Fri

Subject: Congrats Mr. Mount Hottie!
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 16:12:20 06/28/09 Sun You got Workman able to make top 10 after losing so many prelims and I heard Mr.Southard giving you credit for Katherine getting back and taking th crown! So, I beg you, please don't give your pageant to Kim Thompson! I want to be your next Miss Mount Holly! We need you in this system. I'm so proud of both your girls,Lauren and Katherine, and I really hope to be your next! Nothing against Kim, but I know of 5 girls wanting to do Mount Holly, but only if you are ED. Hope you see this and stick around! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Haha! Cute, and I agree, we do need to keep him around and his girls all seem to love him, but I don't think he will see your message. I've never known him to be a voy board fella. I know his wife and she said he is not a fan of the board and forbids his girls to get on here! I'm just too nosey not to. I like the scoop! Congrats Mount Holly Girls and Roger! -- No name, 16:25:38 06/28/09 Sun OK LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT he "forbids his girls to get on here!" WHAT CENTURY IS THIS? Southern Men, geez -- No name, 16:50:55 06/28/09 Sun Hey Roger, I don't want you to leave either BUT if your future contestants are sending you messages through the voyboard, YOU DON'T WANT THEM!!! -- No name, 16:25:47 06/28/09 Sun Well said! -- No name, 16:27:17 06/28/09 Sun Why not? Your here arent you. Whats with this all high and mighty attitude? Some people need to get a clue -- No name, 16:53:31 06/28/09 Sun I am here, but, I'm also an old lady with boobs down to my waist and a bad left knee! I don't think this is a good place for contestants. More often then not, the word on here about the girls is not good. -- No name, 17:03:45 06/28/09 Sun so what, they are big girls. No need to protect them. COME ON NOW grow up -- No name, 17:15:54 06/28/09 Sun Hilarious! and I don't think Roger forbids anyone. We all, as ED's, tell our girls to staff off this board. It is a scary place. Rog is cool and I do believe he will be back. Boobs to the waist! I LOVE IT! -- No name, 17:28:23 06/28/09 Sun Opps...that staff should have been stay. I think maybe I should stay away from the rest of this bottle of wine too! Yay Katherine! I'm going to Vegas and I'm going to love seeing you crowned as Miss America! Now if you will excuse me, I have wine to do! and NO, that was not a drunken comment! I know how you guys work. I'll come back later and let you know when it is though! -- No name, 17:32:04 06/28/09 Sun You sound hottttt!!!!!!! -- Old Geezer, 15:51:38 06/29/09 Mon I'm nosy, not looking to hold a title thats why! -- No name, 17:04:57 06/28/09 Sun So, a girl looking to hold a title definitely needs to see what she will be put through NOW before she gets involved in the deceptive sweetness we call pageantry. -- No name, 17:18:06 06/28/09 Sun Im sure you're Mr. Hottie comment will make his wife beg him to stay in the system. Stupid Comment. -- No name, 16:30:45 06/28/09 Sun As a former Mt. Holly girl, I will tell you that his wife is wonderful and beautiful! She knows that she is number 1 on his list so do his girls. The two are great together! She was just as supportive of me as he was, as were the three boys. I saw he and his wife last night and they both hugged me and told me how much they miss me. It's a great title to hold and you do hold it for ever with them. I would have to respect and understand if he passes it on though. He is a real busy man. So proud of Katherine and Lauren! -- No name, 16:41:04 06/28/09 Sun I noticed he was with Kayla Moran, NCOT 2005 and Mt. Holly OT, last night and Victoria VanDyke, Mt Holly OT and 1st RU last year, earlier in the week. He really has had some success and may just be ready to end on a high note. I know Katherine sure loves him! Very obvious on stage after crowning. Who said he was quiting anyway? and Kim Thompson, really? That sounds like gossip to me. -- No name, 17:23:12 06/28/09 Sun Lets just hope that this is gossip! I'd hate to lose Roger! -- No name, 22:59:43 06/28/09 Sun Love Denise! Talk about sweet! And I know a secret, if a certain girl decides to do Mount Holly next year, they will be back with bells on! I love you guys! Mwaahhh! -- No name, 17:51:05 06/28/09 Sun Way to go Lauren! TOP 10! -- No name, 16:53:56 06/28/09 Sun Top 11 - She had to be the peoples choice !! -- No name, 17:27:01 06/28/09 Sun Nope, she was not the PC girl. If you think about it, it is pretty obvious. Lauren looked great all week and that gown was to die for! Way to go Lauren! -- No name, 17:41:02 06/28/09 Sun If you think about it, Lauren was the PC award. There's no one else that shouldn't have been there. Everyone knows it was Lauren. -- No name, 18:32:47 06/28/09 Sun I don't. I know who put the money in and it was not for Lauren. She earned her spot! -- No name, 18:34:04 06/28/09 Sun Everyone does not know that it was Lauren. All of the people I was with thought it was Chelsea Ingram. She did not stand out all week - just blended into the background. I think she was the 11th. -- No name, 18:46:03 06/28/09 Sun You all seem to be missing the point. The PC award could have been someone already in the T10. Then they just took the next highest judges score. Katie Stamm and Miss GA were both PC winners at MA and they sure were already in the top 10... (NT) -- No name, 06:41:03 06/29/09 Mon WOW!!! I hate that you girls would even write something like that on the board....I know for certain bringing his FAMILY into this when you dont KNOW how they also get behind their girls is so DUMB!!! The Miss Mt Holly organization is a FAMILY and will ALWAYS be one....dont trash talk our family or our FORMER queens (KIM)....we are a town full of PRIDE and definetly WINNERS as you have seen the past two years...no we havent always taken the crown but we ALWAYS win the HEART of NC!!! Ask ANYONE....so can you lay this one to rest....THANKYOU from a MT HOLLY GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!! -- No name, 13:41:35 06/29/09 Mon Mt. Holly Girl, No body is talking badly about Roger or his family. I think you must have misunderstood. We think Roger is great and hope that he stays around as the Mt Holly E.D. As far as Kim Thompson goes, it is not trashing her either. Anyone that has ever known Kim Thompson knows that she is as sweet as they come, but they also know that she is not organized and was seldom prepared to compete when she was active in pageantry. We love Kim too, just not as a replacement for Roger. I love your spirit, but don't get the wrong idea here. We love you Mt Holly Girls! -- No name, 15:21:02 06/29/09 Mon e when she was active in pageantry. We love Kim too, just not as a replacement for Roger. I love your spirit, but don't get the wrong idea here. We love you Mt Holly Girls! -- No name, 15:42:05 06/29/09 Mon I am a Mount Holly interested citizen as well. It is a small town and they will not respond to an ED they do not know. Pageants are a hard sell and this town will not support somone that is in charge if they do not live here. Roger just needs to get some additional help to make the pageant run and then there are others that can do the work with the girls. I am sure the old ED would be happy to lend a hand even though she is not involved with the local program any more, She has had great success with girls in all systems in the state. By the way, Mr. Southard thanked many people and gave credit to all that helped her getting back and taking the crown. She learned from many, but she did the work that made it happen. You can teach things to these girls, but they have to have the ability to apply them to their own situation! -- Interested Party, 16:39:45 06/29/09 Mon She takes credit for many more than she actually really worked with. Selling them out of date dresses doesn't mean you helped them "get there" -- No name, 18:07:21 06/29/09 Mon I don't know who the she is that you refer to but I heard Katherine tell Roger that she would not be there if had not been for him! -- No name, 10:03:16 07/02/09 Thu Re: Congrats Mr. Mount Hottie! -- No name, 05:52:17 06/30/09 Tue When will Mount Holly be this year? I would like to do it this year! So stay Roger! -- No name, 12:54:43 07/03/09 Fri

Subject: What goes into winning the Community Service Award? Is it based on the amount of fundraising the contestant has done for a charity or do the judges look at several factors and weigh the contestants commitment and involvement over time with a particular cause?
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 04:43:29 07/01/09 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It's based on the essay the contestant writes about her community service platform (and must include info about the CMN at the state level). (NT) -- No name, 05:30:55 07/01/09 Wed I heard that only 1-2 questions (at most) in interview involved the platform chosen by each contestant. I totally agree that the entire interview should not be platform driven, but is it really relevant anymore? Many of the ladies spend a great deal of time on this and then it doesn't seem to be all that important if it is not brought up enough in the interview to at least know that she has been involved. May be just need to drop personal platforms and move towards having CMN the focus. Thoughts? (NT) -- No name, 05:40:28 07/01/09 Wed Who won this award this year? (NT) -- No name, 05:38:32 07/01/09 Wed I believe Chelsea Ingram won the Community Service Award for the Miss. I am not sure who won for OT. Both groups answered platform questions from the judges in front of the audience each night. So the judges questions asked during the evening preliminary are based on the essay the contestants have written? Are they scored on their answers? (NT) -- No name, 05:58:29 07/01/09 Wed Arlie Honeycutt won in Teen (NT) -- No name, 07:06:51 07/01/09 Wed So Arlie won one of the prelim. Talent Awards and Community Service Award. Who won interview for OT? (NT) -- No name, 07:37:48 07/01/09 Wed Announced the overall interview winner in the OT group. It was Ciara Ellis (GJC). For the Miss, it was nonfinalist interview instead. (NT) -- No name, 07:56:52 07/01/09 Wed Depends on if you're talking about state level or local level. Some locals do not use the judging panel to judge the CS essays; they use a separate panel of community members. The questions regarding the platform that are asked during interview at the state level are certainly judged as part of the interview. (NT) -- No name, 08:08:44 07/01/09 Wed Re: So Ellis won talent, fitness AND overall interview??? WOW!! (NT) -- No name, 17:02:39 07/02/09 Thu Seriously, that is freaking ridiculous, the girl should have won, she was consistant ALL week long and wins 3 awards and then ends up as 3rd ru. That is so wrong. (NT) -- No name, 17:07:07 07/02/09 Thu i thought ciara was a doll, but she won 2 of those awards out of a WEAK group. had she been placed in either of the other 2 groups, she may not have come home with so much triangular-plastic, and you wouldn't be claiming that she should've won... (NT) -- No name, 18:17:35 07/02/09 Thu Agree with the above poster, Cierra won talent/fitness in weak group, do not thin k she bit Arlie/Katherine P in either. Hope she comes back again, great competitior. (NT) -- No name, 02:26:34 07/03/09 Fri disagree with weak group. She won interview and was obviously well liked by judges. I did noy have her picked for fitness or talent in prelims but the judges forgot to ask me (NT) -- No name, 10:01:05 07/03/09 Fri Re: disagree with weak group. She won interview and was obviously well liked by judges. I did noy have her picked for fitness or talent in prelims but the judges forgot to ask me (lol). She is a beautul young lady and congrats to her awards. She may have had highest poinys but I agree with judges pick of Puryear. She was consistent and seemed to have the "it" factor on stage. I believe she will do well at MAOT in August. (NT) -- No name, 10:05:04 07/03/09 Fri My daughter competed with Cierra Ellis and we both believe she should do some prelim's and go back in the Miss Division. She is beautiful and crazy (great personality). While it is evident she absolutely was in a "weak" division and Katherine Puryear certainly deserved her crown, that shouldn't keep her from going back. (NT) -- No name, 10:23:03 07/03/09 Fri

Subject: People's Choice
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 20:49:44 07/01/09 Wed So how much money did it take to win People's Choice? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'd be interested to know how much money the org raised overall from this fundraiser for the Scholarship Fund. -- No name, 03:54:29 07/02/09 Thu The total amount raised would be nice to know. Not individual amounts etc. (NT) -- No name, 04:18:58 07/02/09 Thu Yeah, that's what I was asking about (first reply to the OP). (NT) -- No name, 06:10:54 07/02/09 Thu Do we even know for sure which one was The People's Choice? -- No name, 12:03:24 07/02/09 Thu I think it was obvious...hmmm, who (or parent) is able to dish out enough money so they are sure they are in the top11? -- No name, 12:51:14 07/02/09 Thu

Subject: Who was cursing backstage during the pageant?
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 18:39:39 07/01/09 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Anyone and everyone who wasn't onstage. LOL! (NT) -- No name, 12:07:11 07/02/09 Thu

Subject: Only two days left!

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Subject: Former Misses
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 20:35:27 06/28/09 Sun If there were a pageant for the former Miss North Carolinas who were in attendance at this year's pageant, who would win and who would be the runners-up? Who would be the preliminary talent and swimsuit winners? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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cough, GAY -- No name, 20:41:13 06/28/09 Sun Some couldn't compete in swimsuit anymore. -- No name, 20:34:39 07/01/09 Wed Why? They don't own one? -- No name, 20:36:08 07/01/09 Wed Sadly, it's the more recent ones who are the fat ones. I was glad to see Dana Reason still looks slim and trim. She's the only one from recent years not to look like a cow on stage. -- No name, 03:14:09 07/02/09 Thu Some of them have had babies and one has just had a baby in recent months - I think for their ages and being mom's they all looked wonderful. -- No name, 05:33:01 07/02/09 Thu And it's the ones who HAVE had babies who look the best. Dana Stephenson just had a baby 5-6 months ago and she looks terrific. Ms. Jacobs and Ms. McLaurin do not have the luxury of claiming "childbirth" as an excuse for why they have blown up like Macy's parade balloons. -- No name, 08:00:46 07/02/09 Thu And I am sure you are trim and fit, right? They're not competing anymore --- leave them alone. That's probably why so many of them don't want to come to the Miss NC pageant anymore --- people like you are so rude and judgemental!! -- No name, 05:36:52 07/02/09 Thu Amen and Lorna looked great also -- No name, 06:12:29 07/02/09 Thu

Subject: When you are talking about moving toward USA, you are not just talking about sexier evening gowns or swimsuits (although that is a part of it). It is also about persona. I actually saw this more in the OT division than the Miss. All of the Top 10 OT dresses were long and flowy--just like USA. Also, Katherine Puryear (who very much deserved the title) had a lot of "attitude/personality" (whatever you wanna call it). Even in her on-stage question, she made the statement that she was the next Miss NC OT. In the past, this sort of response would have been looked down upon. However, it went over well with the judges. I'd even say they loved it. This very "CONFIDENT" attitude wins, not just at USA, but now at NC. I just think if this is the case then the preliminary judges need to understand what the State competition is now requiring and get on board with the whole movement.
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 23:10:58 06/30/09 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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They have been told over and over again ever since the movement started, yet some still refuse to change just as there are committees out there who still try to force their queen to dress "back in the day that was." You still have old pageant thinking people out there working with contestants who are training them the old way also. Then you see them at preliminaries fuming when their girl does not win. DUH!!!! Some are so resistant to change that they will never get it no matter how many times they are told. The only answer, unless that is the kind of girl you want is to not ask them to judge your preliminary.As a contestant, if you know a committee wants a girl that they can make into that girl from a bygone era don't enter that pageant because if you should win you will have a miserable year with a bunch of control freaks. (NT) -- No name, 03:58:28 07/01/09 Wed The folks who think "old" don't necessarily have to be old themselves. Gone are the days when the ED was in total control, never caring what the contestant wants, but pushing his/her own agenda and taste on the contestant. MNC has said for years that it is the contestant who should be happy with the wardrobe and if the committee is too then that is fine. Committees should not lose sight of the fact that the young woman needs to feel her best regarding her wardrobe selections since she will the one on that stage. Gone are the days of St John knit suits and matchy, matchy shoes/dresses. I, for one, am glad that the contestants are taking more control over their own selections. (NT) -- No name, 04:32:33 07/01/09 Wed Amen sister!!! Someone needs to get it across to the ED's who think it is all about them and if the contestant, herself, cannot do that and it continues if she will let the State Board know about it they will certainly see that it ceases. (NT) -- No name, 04:45:29 07/01/09 Wed One of my favorite things to view in Lenn's photos are the interview outfits! I have never been a fan of the suits and those awful taupe pumps! I know it's silly but I could hardly wait to see the colors and the rockin' shoes! THIS is how young women dress today. You can still be classy and wear zebra pumps or a bright yellow sleeveless (gasp!) dress! My opinion on the swimsuit/evening gown is maybe a bit more conservative but not much. Case in point was the back of Rivenbarks EG. Too much skin! Beautiful gown but for me classic USA. MAO will/is changing. We don't have to copy USA but MAO can continue to evolve and maintain its integrity. JMO (NT) -- No name, 06:17:50 07/01/09 Wed I tend to agree. I thought the interview outfits, for the most part, were exceptional this year. In evening gown, the classier, the better. Give me Audrey Hepburn over Madonna any day! (NT) -- No name, 06:45:12 07/01/09 Wed Some of the opening number outfits were a bit risque this year. Not sure everyone fully understood the meaning of couture based on what I saw. Some left very little to the imagination. (NT) -- No name, 06:46:46 07/01/09 Wed You must not have read the discription given to the girls. All of the outfits including the fishnets and body suit met the discription. Be careful what you ask for you may just get it (NT) -- No name, 14:15:02 07/01/09 Wed I didn't ask for it and I didn't say Nina knew what couture is either! (NT) -- No name, 17:05:16 07/01/09 Wed I TOTALLY AGREE! The Judges and EDs BETTER get with the "PROGRAM ASAP! (NT) -- No name, 06:43:35 07/02/09 Thu Re: I TOTALLY AGREE! The Judges and EDs BETTER get with the "new" PROGRAM ASAP! (NT) -- No name, 06:43:58 07/02/09 Thu

Subject: New Website.
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 08:42:25 07/01/09 Wed Who else thinks the new website really sucks? I could design something like this when I was in highschool without any training and it even has a LOT less information on it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It does suck, there is no way to find out any information as to when the upcoming pageants are or who to contact like before. -- No name, 08:52:14 07/01/09 Wed That information will be posted once they have all the contracts back. They are not even due until July 31st.They don't just assume that everyone will renew their contract. -- No name, 08:57:54 07/01/09 Wed It was listed in the program book with the ED's pictures, contact info and dates of upcoming prelims. (NT) -- No name, 09:47:40 07/01/09 Wed What new website? -- No name, 09:17:46 07/01/09 Wed It is sad when title holders have better websites. -- No name, 09:49:39 07/01/09 Wed I would love to see NC have a website like Tennessee--I know it takes a lot of work, but once the intial set-up was done it would just be a matter of updating info. I'm specifically referring to the history/archives section for Miss TN--they have lists going back to the beginning of time (LOL) of the finalists each year. Its very interesting to track how a particular girl did from year to year, many of whom climbed the ranks from 4th runner up to 1st runner up and finally winning Miss TN. And some were runners up for several years but never won the crown. I wonder if that info is available for NC? -- No name, 09:54:08 07/01/09 Wed I don't like Tn's website at all. -- No name, 22:52:37 07/01/09 Wed Maybe of the board members had their names attached to the website, they'd insist on something better for the benefit of the program. (NT) -- The Rock, 12:32:45 07/01/09 Wed Re: Maybe if the board members had their names attached to the website, they'd insist on something better for the benefit of the program. (edited for typo) (NT) -- The Rock, 12:33:28 07/01/09 Wed Again, what new website? -- No name, 12:44:13 07/01/09 Wed The "new and improved" missnc.org. Go see for yourself. It rocks. What an update. Overwhelming amount of info. Don't get intimidated. (NT) -- No name, 12:48:19 07/01/09 Wed This is really bad......what gives. Let's hope more than this is going to be added. The "short schedule for katherine doesn't look correct either. thursday is all jumbled up. (NT) -- No name, 19:40:46 07/01/09 Wed Whenever I try to log on to it, my computer crashes. (NT) -- No name, 20:36:43 07/01/09 Wed

Subject: Can anyone please answer this question for me. I know that in SC MAO the contestants are required to sell our buy around $10,000 worth of ad pages. Does anyone know if NC has this same type of ad requirement for the contestants. Thanks so much.
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 10:54:13 07/01/09 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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No, there are no requirements for ad page sales. Although this years program book was thicker than most. That speaks volumes about the support our girls are getting from their local businesses in a downturn economic year. Support your girls local sponsors and let them know you appreciate them. (NT) -- No name, 11:20:18 07/01/09 Wed Just curious - do they recognize the contestant with the most ad pages? (NT) -- No name, 11:25:51 07/01/09 Wed Where does the money from ad pages go? There is no way it all goes on printing the book. (NT) -- No name, 12:31:36 07/01/09 Wed It ends up being books. There is an OT book and a Miss program book. At SC Workweekend the girls were told that the poor economy is no excuse that there were still plenty of rich Drs and Lawyers out there in the community. (NT) -- No name, 14:03:36 07/01/09 Wed $10,000?! Are you kidding me?!!?!? (NT) -- No name, 12:48:15 07/01/09 Wed That is what I was told by a very reliable source after looking at the SC MAO book which is absolutely about the size of a dictionary. I just could not figure out how anyone could afford to enter SC's if that was a requirement because I know I could not, and I am thinking about competing but not at that cost. (NT) -- No name, 14:01:13 07/01/09 Wed That's ridiculous and SOOOO unnecessary!! What the heck is a program book good for anyway. (NT) -- No name, 15:28:13 07/01/09 Wed Please keep in mind that most of this entire thread is for some reason about the Miss SC program book, NOT the Miss NC one. (NT) -- No name, 15:43:31 07/01/09 Wed Oh, I know. If NC ever went to a book like that it would be the biggest waste of money!! (NT) -- No name, 15:47:36 07/01/09 Wed And the ED of SC makes the girls feel really bad if they don't have 10 pages of ads. She pretty much tells you you will not be in the top 10. (NT) -- No name, 16:51:20 07/01/09 Wed Re: And the ED of SC makes the girls feel really bad if they don't have 10 pages of ads. She pretty much tells you you will not be in the top 10. (NT) -- No name, 16:51:36 07/01/09 Wed I do not think you have a choice in South Carolina about the ten pages of ads. It is a requirement to compete or you do not compete, PERIOD!!!!!!! The ED in South Carolina must be making a ton of money with $10,000 per contestant. (NT) -- No name, 20:13:50 07/01/09 Wed

Subject: Number 11
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 12:46:18 06/26/09 Fri I have a question about the number 11 spot. Is it based on money/votes from the audience? If so, then conceivably a family could make a large "donation" in order to allow their daughter another shot at the crown? Particularly if they believe that she wasn't at her best earlier in the week? I am confused on how that works... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I think you're exactly right about how it works. -- No name, 12:50:27 06/26/09 Fri I think you're right too. And the rumor around the auditorium is that this is not a Miss NC only thing. Evidently Miss America has asked that all the states do this. I guess we'll all have to get use to there no longer being a top 15 picked only by the judges. I guess the public gets a say from now on. -- No name, 12:53:21 06/26/09 Fri It is being used in VA too. (NT) -- No name, 12:59:20 06/26/09 Fri It really isn't a bad thing, though. Money raised goes to the Scholarship Fund, and it allows one more girl to compete on finals night. I just don't see how that is harmful. -- No name, 13:00:23 06/26/09 Fri Does it go directly to the scholarship fund or to the wardrobe of the next Miss NC. How can you tell where the funds actually go? -- No name, 13:23:10 06/26/09 Fri Well I guess we have to take the board's word for it that the money will go directly to the scholarship fund. The state doesn't pay for Miss NC's wardrobe, by the way. It would be nice if they could afford to do that, but they do have wonderful sponsors who provide a lot of wardrobe items for Miss NC fortunately. -- No name, 14:52:51 06/26/09 Fri Well, there is one particular family there that is likely to spend for another chance, but I hope that they will forgo that this year and let their contestant age up another year and try a different styling next year. She will be more competitive in the future, but this is just not her year. Being named #11 will be obvious to all and I believe it will cause some resentment, based on observation of past family interactions. (NT) -- No name, 13:39:35 06/26/09 Fri You are being too subtle, this particular family doesn't get "subtle" if you want to give them advise, then you need to write there name in BIG letters for them to get it, and you are probably already too late. (NT) -- No name, 13:17:40 06/27/09 Sat I don't know why anyone would resent her. It's not like she's taking anyone's place, since there are usually on ten. If it's obvious, then so be it; it still gives that girl one more opportunity to perform on finals night. She might not ever get the opportunity to get back to the state stage for all we know, and this could be a great opportunity for her (whoever it ends up being). And if it's that obvious, it isn't like she's going to win anyway. (NT) -- No name, 15:11:29 06/27/09 Sat I think the idea of resentment would come more from those who are well aware of the mother/daughter bad attitude and antics in the past. (NT) -- No name, 15:33:37 06/27/09 Sat I guess that would depend on who the 11th girl is, but I still don't know why it would matter. The judges know she isn't in their top ten, so it's not going to change the outcome of the pageant. And again, it's not like she's taking a spot someone else should have had. (NT) -- No name, 16:50:03 06/27/09 Sat Its a fundraising technique used a pageants everywhere. Its usually called the Audience Choice vote. Although at youth pageants it usually just means you get another plaque. -- No name, 13:57:10 06/26/09 Fri This might have been a good idea at first, but assuming that the audience would contribute to actually put their "favorite" in on merit and performance did not work at the OT last night at all. Even if I COULD afford to buy my dauther a spot in the top 11, she would be mortified to think that we would do that. It would be a total embarrasment to her, and if she could not earn her way into the top 10 the right way, she would not want to be there. But any contestant worth truly being there at all will NOT let her family contribute to "buying" her a spot in the finals. I wonder just how much those people paid for that # 11 girl to be there a last night? It was pitiful. I just don't know how that could do anything to raise that girls self worth, knowing that she was up there because Mommy and Daddy put in the most money. And that is exactly what happened. -- No name, 07:50:58 06/27/09 Sat So you' -- No name, 07:52:01 06/27/09 Sat So you're saying that your daughter would refuse the 11th spot? Come on now, I don't know of any girl who would turn down the opportunity to compete on finals night no matter how it happened. -- No name, 07:52:56 06/27/09 Sat Are they actually announcing that Miss So-n-so is the people's favorite? or will there just be 11 contestants tonight and nobody will know who that 11th one is? and what if the people's choice is actually in the top 10 on her own comptitive merit? -- No name, 13:08:40 06/27/09 Sat no, but it was so obvious last night that they might have well as hung a sign around her neck. -- No name, 13:18:48 06/27/09 Sat please post a name since some of us were'nt there -- No name, 13:43:18 06/27/09 Sat Stanly County OT Nicole Kippes -- No name, 15:04:50 06/27/09 Sat Gee that is a shocker. who would expect such behavior from that crazy grandmother of hers? -- No name, 15:35:37 06/27/09 Sat what behavior are you talking about? -- No name, 15:48:45 06/27/09 Sat Interesting. Her grandma, Suzan Jones still owes several directors a boatload of money from 2 years ago. Interesting she can buy a place for her granddaughter but can't pay her outstanding pageant debts. Hope she didn't write Miss NC OT a check, it will bounce. I know of three people who are still waiting to be paid back from bounced checks from this nut. -- No name, 22:04:40 06/27/09 Sat It may not be that obvious tonight, though. Just depends on who it is. -- No name, 15:05:30 06/27/09 Sat May be way off here but I think Ingram was the one with the purchased spot in the top 11. She needs to learn how to play the marimba cause she surely cannot sing, at least not opera. What was with her standing so long after she finished and looking like poor pitiful Pearl? -- No name, 22:47:58 06/27/09 Sat The thread here was talking about the OT who's crazy granny who owes $$$ to many people in pageants dumped money on a silly top 11 spot her gd didn't earn instead of being responsible and paying people she owes $$ to. -- No name, 10:47:39 06/28/09 Sun I CALL NO CLASS TO THIS POST. Why bring the grandaughter into some dispute you have with her grandmother? NO CLASS NO CLASS ALERT -- No name, 11:46:49 06/28/09 Sun Everybody in the "pageant world" knows about the grandmother. It is not just a one person gripe. -- No name, 12:14:44 06/28/09 Sun .WE DON"T CARE ABOUT YOUR MONEY PROBLEMS with this lady. Classless remarks on this board is all I�m saying and her granddaughter, whoever it is, should not have to reap the benefits of your ridicule of her grandmother. -- No name, 12:18:57 06/28/09 Sun I believe it is relevant. Just like someone said, I hope Miss NC didn't take a check With a bad check that spot belonged to someone else.. -- No name, 12:27:20 06/28/09 Sun good lord -- No name, 12:29:24 06/28/09 Sun Take the grandma to court then and leave the girl out of it -- No name, 12:30:29 06/28/09 Sun Can't get blood out of a turnip! -- No name, 12:52:52 06/28/09 Sun So you will take it out of the young girls hide though, pitiful. -- No name, 12:54:33 06/28/09 Sun Crazy granny is responsible for any and all flack this girl might hear. If granny paid people and didn't flaunt her spending habits while still in debt to MANY people in pageants then her gd would never hear anything. Granny dug her hole and she alone is responsible for anything the girl hears. If it bothers her perhaps she'll pay her debts so her gd doesn't have to read on the boards that her granny is a theif! -- No name, 18:45:25 07/01/09 Wed Yes, the Grandmother did buy her Granddaughter and "spot" in top 11 but the Granddaughter does not know that her Grandmother did that! I feel sorry for the young lady! -- No name, 05:59:14 06/29/09 Mon I am pretty sure the granddaughter did know from backstage chatter that I heard. (NT) -- No name, 06:34:49 06/29/09 Mon Seriously? And what planet do you live on? Classless is not paying your debts in the pageant world but continuing to fund your gd's way when you owe many people money. I also know of several people she's screwed including her gd's hairdresser at LMNC and LMNC itself, her check to them bounced like a ball. I could go on but you all know this too. No one but SJ herself would think it's right to screw half the pageant people in NC and then buy a spot for her gd in the top 11. For that matter, she shouldn't be doing anything extra until she pays her debts. Oh, but THAT would require class. -- No name, 02:15:52 07/01/09 Wed Not only that, but that lady is one of the meanest and nastiest acting people I have ever met. -- No name, 06:04:11 07/01/09 Wed No the thread was not talking about the grandmother; you brought that crap up. Look at the OP - there's the original thread. -- No name, 12:43:23 06/28/09 Sun No - I'm pretty sure the Workman girl was the one that was the #11 spot - there is no way she truly made it into the Top Ten by scores - and Chelsea may not have a great voice, but she had a killer interview. -- No name, 12:56:17 06/28/09 Sun Re: Number 11 -- No name, 05:54:55 06/30/09 Tue

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