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Date Posted: 15:42:13 12/31/23 Sun
Author: OP
Subject: Our kids are talented, wise, and resilient and will be just fine competing with all who love this community and this artform.
In reply to: U14 mom new to posting 's message, "Female category inspires and creates roll models for girls!" on 12:11:53 12/31/23 Sun

My daughter irish-danced for in the US for a coed dance school most of her childhood. We met some of the nicest families. She regularly danced and competed with all children. She attended coed public schools where the class ranking was determined by grades. Her college acceptances, scholarships, and jobs have all been in a competitive coed environment. Irish dancing is a sport for hard workers. If I recall correctly, Irish dance judges were always light on compliments and heavy handed with feedback for improvements. Irish dance is a rigorous sport steeped in our culture that is rewarding for the dancers and fun for the families. A small percentage of the overall population of dancers grow up to TCRGs, ADCRGs, dance teachers, fitness teachers, MUA, Irish dance dress designers, and Irish musicians. Our kids are talented, wise, and resilient and will be just fine competing with all who love this community and this artform.

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We don’t want to dance with a boy either. Clrg need to sort this mess out. You dance with your gender assigned at birth not with what you identify as!! It’s nuts. U14 we don’t want boys in our age group at worlds /all Irelands. If this was girls dancing in boys comps you bet it would be sorted out straight away (NT) -- …., 17:31:53 12/31/23 Sun

Just so you know, there ARE dancers born female who now identify as male competing in boys competitions…. It’s not a big deal? (NT) -- It’s <nearly> 2024, 17:45:34 12/31/23 Sun

Correct and now you see the problem. They never do welll. (NT) -- Wonder why, 14:26:00 01/01/24 Mon
- Maybe they aren’t very good? Where were they as female ? Dancer in question is good (NT) -- ., 17:42:23 01/01/24 Mon
  - This is what a lot of people miss. This dancer is not achieving in a way out of proportion to what she had achieved as a male. (NT) -- Was already a top dancer, 20:00:19 01/01/24 Mon
    - Bio females should have their own categories. International track and swimming already backtracking for obvious reasons (NT) -- Bio males have advantages, 20:14:23 01/01/24 Mon
      - To use swimming as an example, Lia Thomas achieved a rank as a female that was out of proportion to her success as a male. This is not the case in dance because success is based (NT) -- On so many different factors, 04:52:03 01/02/24 Tue

The WRO had two girls dance as boys this year…so your statement is very wrong! But they didn’t win so no one cares! (NT) -- -, 18:07:48 12/31/23 Sun

Same as the MAR. They didn't win so no one is pitching a fit. (NT) -- Perspective, 02:55:43 01/01/24 Mon
- Of course they didn't win, they didn't have the extra advantage of being stronger than the others in their comp. Exactly why this doesn't make sense. (NT) -- . . ., 06:24:57 01/02/24 Tue
  - They didn't win because they were not at that level of dancing pre-transition. Their achievements as females are in proportion to their achievements as males. (NT) -- No big change, 14:52:39 01/02/24 Tue
Boys & their families DID care, but we're too small (NT) -- of a group to matter, 07:50:48 01/02/24 Tue

Bye Felicia. (NT) -- Dm, 10:32:04 01/01/24 Mon

There ARE girls dancing in boys comps (NT) -- boy moms don't like it either, 07:45:26 01/02/24 Tue

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