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Date Posted: 07:49:35 02/12/05 Sat
Author: Tony Lang
Subject: The Changing UBF

We have had several postings recently from ubf members recently telling us that ubf has changed. I find this encouraging, but before we start getting carried away I think one or two points need to be made.
If the writers are telling us that ubf has changed and I hope that they are right, what they are really saying is that there must have been something wrong in the first place for it to need to change.
Now these letters from ubf, have been met with a whole host of replys from rsqubf saying that it hasn't.
I would like to approach this problem from a different angle. Because the discussion has developed into an " Oh yes we have" "Oh no you havn't" Type of arguement, that I personally think is going nowhere.
I would like to ask all those members of ubf who have written suggesting that ubf has changed to explain to us the reasons that are responsible for this change. Lets be honest change does not happen without a reason. (cause and effect)
The change that you talk about , Is it a big change? or do you see it as the small beginnings of reform.
Is the change among the newest members or is it spread evenly throughout the group. Is it happening in a few Chapters or in the majority.
I do pray that you will try to answer my questions as I feel that they need to be answered for us to start to take you seriously.
UBF members I can see that you are very angry at rsq for not accepting what you have said regarding change. I will give you a lesson from history.
In about 1649 Oliver Cromwell The British General went over to Ireland and did a lot of bad things to the Irish. More than 350 years later, The British are still fighting the IRA because of what he did. Hurt takes a long time to cure, you have to realize that.
You can find out my email address and write to me if you dont want to answer publically. Just click on my underlined name and my address will come up at the bottom of the page.

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