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how many Rhodes must a man walk free -- 2bro2b, 11:44:05 11/22/09 Sun
generally two- to fivefold between business leaders and doctors or lawyers, or five- to tenfold with professors, scientists and public servants -- were often rationalized by Rhodes scholars as reasonable additional compensation to balance the lower standing of business jobs among their peers.
When differentials could become a hundredfold or far more -- and as investment banking and similar firms started to recruit young Rhodes scholars who had degrees in math, physics or even history, English and theology -- the yawning prospective wealth chasm understandably became impossible for many to ignore.
After the Assassinations of RFK & MLK -- Gila_Bob, 11:27:31 11/22/09 Sun
Friends:
When the Fascists stretched their Newfound Power
To the Limit
It was the Riots & Protests in the 1960's & 1970's
That eventually brought a Halt
To the Vietnam War & the "policy" Of Eliminating
Dissenting Views.............
It was the Policy of NOT PAYING for the War
That led to the Inflation of the 1970's
It wasn't Welfare excepting for the Minions of the MIC
So it ALL looks pretty similar Today
And many of the same Fascist Impulses
Are beginning to Rise Again
To save the Whitebread Welfare State
That is right at the Heart & Soul
Of thee MIC & the DOD Budgets
0n which thee IllU$ion of Empire Depends
The Idea that you can Take Over the Whirled on Kredit
Was All Weigh$ misbegotten............
And the Idea that you can blame the Collap$e
On the Banker$ that serve this Beast
Or the people with No Health Insurance
Is about as Retarded a POV
As U can Develop
Buttttttt
It's thee Olde Southern White Cracker -- Southern White Elite Logique
Keep the Poor White Trash
Worried about Darkies & Emojados Taking Their Job$
While you $ell Their $hare-Cr0ppin' A$$ Down-the-River
Big Bob
(And MANY here, if they t00k even a FEW Minute$ to Reflect
Would realize that they are PERFECTLY Aligned with Fascism
jU$t like GOLDbrick
Who was at least Honest Enough to Admit It)
all weighs 33 -- Gila_Bob, 10:56:15 11/22/09 Sun
Friend:
The 1963 coup d'etat was RUN
By a Vice President GREEDY for Power
An FBI Director who was the Lavrenty Beria of the US
A CIA LOYAL to A. Dulles & the Cuban Exiles & the MIC
AND a Mafia eager to get back their Cuban Holdings
At the Behest of the Military-Industrial Complex
It was a Fascist Coup
Any Future "coup" will be Run
Largely by those Same Interests
It will be Fascist in Nature
And MANY Here will bee Oh!! Sew Happy!!!
Big Bob
(Celente is an Outright Fascist
Desiring to Take what he cannot Win in an Erection
snowy north housing -- 2bro2b, 10:43:37 11/22/09 Sun
At the peak of the U.S. housing bubble, just before it burst, house prices were five times the average American income; in Canada today that ratio is 7.4:1 almost 50 per cent higher.
siempre33 -- Raja, 10:31:07 11/22/09 Sun
My reason for saying that "it defies logic" is this: when the world economies are collapsing, these control freeks er-rich and famous people will go the way of the Czars (sp?). They think that they can live in a vacuum that they are creating? Resultant revolution will remove them all from the planet!
Sorry, Wrong Number -- 2bro2b, 10:19:07 11/22/09 Sun
It’s not OK for journalists to be bad at math
Things become complicated—not to mention embarrassing and embarrassingly hilarious—after inaccurate numbers make their way out into the world. The more often a statistic is reported and re-reported, the more authority it assumes. At a certain point, an incorrect number gains a wake of supporting citations that can challenge or overcome the actual facts.
There was an interesting Bloomberg roundtable broadcast this weekend, Origins of the Crisis, with a panel of authors who've published accounts. Some of their books delve into the events leading up to the meltdown, some begin with the bailout, Michael Lewis (Liar's Poker) moderating.
Niall Ferguson was one. His Ascent of Money (on the shelf here, unstarted) was a multi-part broadcast on PBS a while ago which he narrated, a nice overview through the centuries of banking and finance. He said an interesting thing in response to a question posed of each, how did you get into business journalism. He said looking into the roots of WWI in pre-war Germany, the archives of bankers
and financial institutions recorded in the day, convinced him that finance and financial market history have as much to do, in some cases more to do with history, than politics and political history. An understanding absent almost all journalists and reporters, politically consumed, and probably most historians, missing half the picture.
And the broad population allowing for a Groundhogs' Day of S&Ls, LatAm debt crises, asian contagion, seemingly ad infinitum, none of it worthy of airtime or printspace until the aftermath. Politics gets 99-100% of it, the revolutions and evolutions in finance and markets zero to zilch. There is little to no market for it. I guess that leaves the dark matters to one's own devices when half the known universe is missing to the whole of the world.
I agree with everything you say, except "It defies logic."
Not if you understand the One Worlders plot, which I posted on yesterday....this fits right in with the
Global Warming plot, which I also posted on 11/21...
in this context it makes a bit more sense that our world
is in its current state...
Barney Fwank -- Smythe (), 09:21:38 11/22/09 Sun
as stand-up comedian :
"Frank said he was opposing the Paul amendment because it could be perceived as influencing monetary policy, which can have inflationary pressure. "Perception is very important in monetary policy," said Frank."
From the Paul-Grayson link posted earlier by Fedfighter.
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What about the party on the other side of the transaction? --Pbear -- Pyrite, 09:14:20 11/22/09 Sun
There is diligence required. Back in the old days (2003 or 4) when I wuz startin on my plan to live offa morgidges, it was OBVIOUS when or when not to lend any money at all.
I had one slum that .....I..... appraised as "land and lumber."
The owner needed a 41k loan. After a year he wanted to kite it to 64k which wuz also OK wit me.
But then he needed to bump to 78k and cud not make the payments on the 64k with FOUR renters. (1200 sq ft)
I refused to bump and the broker sold it to someone else.
Itz up to a lender to LOOK at a house before puttin any money in it.
Walk Away: Why More People Should Abandon Their Homes -- doran -- Permabear1 (), 09:04:46 11/22/09 Sun
It blows my mind, the immorality of what the professor from Arizona is proposing. If things don't work out, you simply walk away. WOW! What about the party on the other side of the transaction? I am old fashioned I guess---old school...
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Gerald Celente :: Story is 100% right.. -- siempre33, 09:06:34 11/22/09 Sun
Another key derivatives critic is Christopher Story FRSA, editor of the UK-based International Currency Review, which he has been publishing for 40 years; Story counts central banks, sovereign treasuries, and government intelligence agencies around the world among subscribers. Noted as a former occasional adviser to Margaret Thatcher, he has long maintained that the entire derivatives sector is centered on fraud. His website also presents a chronicle of very serious allegations – tantamount to charges of ongoing, worldwide economic terrorism – against high-level individuals within the US government and financial sectors, including current and former presidents, cabinet secretaries, intelligence agents, as well as Federal Reserve and banking officials.
It is common knowledge that severe consequences accompany the willful publication of libel in the UK; per Mr. Story, Britain’s Head of State, Her Majesty the Queen, and many other world leaders, are fully aware of these allegations. As he has not been prosecuted for disseminating libelous statements, one can only assume that these charges, spanning back at least six years, are indeed based on facts. Granted, I am in no position to individually authenticate purported crimes, but I can enlighten others on what is being published over an international landscape; after reviewing this catalogue of analysis – which forecast most of the events that are happening today – some will certainly be inclined to contact US law enforcement agents, and demand an investigation into these shocking claims. If that is the case, please do so in a civil manner. (Note: this report has been submitted directly to American authorities.)
I mentioned Mr. Story’s stance on derivatives to Gerald; the other allegations were not specifically referenced during our conversation. “Story is one-hundred percent right…these are con games,” he said, in regards to derivatives.
Coup d'etat anniversary....Nov.22, 1963 -- siempre33, 09:01:18 11/22/09 Sun
who can forget that day?
..public officials would be very wise to respect the words of John F. Kennedy, who once said, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
it won't be long until there IS violent revolution imo...
Walk Away: Why More People Should Abandon Their Homes -- doran -- Permabear1, 09:00:49 11/22/09 Sun
Some people should be ashamed to be foreclosed on. Obviously, job loss and medical related problems that can savage family budgets are huge exceptions.
However, for those who bought up and put little to nothing down so they could feed their egos by buying a McMansion, I'd say finish your damn contract. A house is NOT an investment, it is a place to live in and raise a family. The price fluctuations are incidental to the purpose of owning a home.
siempre33 -- Raja, 08:59:05 11/22/09 Sun
Look at the damage that is being done to our young men fighting and getting physically and psychologically disable for the rest of their lives, when they could have been productive and adding to our prosperity. As Henry Kissinger said, "soldiers are cannon fodder for the politicians". It is all so sad that the country' resources are being spent on items not needed by the consumers (weapons) and resources would be spent to support these disabled veterans for the rest of their lives.
We are mad, specially the powerful who don't pause and think in terms of the nation as a whole over the long term. How could rich and powerful nations be that stupid? It defies logic.
If I, an ordinary man, could think of the slippery slope to oblivion the U.S. government took when Bush decided to go to Iraq, how come our best and brightest stopped thinking past the tip of their noses? I find it extremely hard to believe what I see happening now a days. Lord help us.
m0rbiU$ -- Gila_Bob, 08:47:36 11/22/09 Sun
Friend:
I have no l0w 0pini0n of M0is 0r U
I d0 kn0w that given the Current Weakknee$ of yer argueMint$
U'd prefer to view n0 c0unter-vailing 0pini0n$
Well, Tuff Shit
I don' wanna sea ya Fall0ff the Turnip Wagon
Like the mental cRIPple Did
Sew I'll stick here ta Guide ya Back
T0 the Path of Rati0nal 0bjectivity
Big Bob
(fedfighter............
I di$$ed the p0stie not U
I am NOT anti-GOLD.........
I sea other Opportunities as Well in the Economy
The Economic "analysis" Here
Is Largely Disconnected from BOTH
My Daily Experience AND the Views Expressed in the Conference Calls
I Listen To.............
I prefer to LISTEN to those In Business
Than to those opining ABOUT Business
Which they never can be bothered to Conduct
Simple As That
Off to Oil & Gas Accounting..........
I Still Own Properties..........)
I know i already posted this link but... -- fedfighter, 08:47:05 11/22/09 Sun
but if you care for a dose of optimism read the remarks regarding the Paul/Grayson bill. It's not in fashion to be hopeful on this site but what the hay, it's Sunday. Here's an example;
Another parasite reveals his true allegiance -- Smythe, 08:01:06 11/22/09 Sun
They are scurrying from under rocks all over the place :
Fury as credit crunch civil servant lands Rothschild job
By Simon Watkins
Last updated at 1:18 AM on 22nd November 2009
Inside knowledge: John Kingman will become the new managing director of NM Rothschild
The civil servant who oversaw the taxpayers’ stake in Britain’s crisis-hit banks is at the centre of a conflict-of-interest row after it emerged he is to join a leading investment bank.
John Kingman, the former chief executive of UK Financial Investments, is to become the new managing director of NM Rothschild.
Walk Away: Why More People Should Abandon Their Homes -- doran, 07:56:43 11/22/09 Sun
Millions of Americans, whose homes are now worth significantly less than their mortgage, could be making an expensive mistake by continuing to try and pay their loan off when they should, instead, be walking away. In fact, owners are willing to keep piling money into a losing investment simply because they're ashamed to foreclose, according to a controversial new study. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/shame-cost-homeowners-big/story?id=9120264
For those mindful of their P's & Q's...quadrillions, pentillions. Needful now more than ever. A simple reset,
say lopping off 6 or 9 zeros would be understandably helpful in a broad-(de)based popular sense.
"You shall not press down upon the brow of the belabored this crown of thorny numbers. You shall not crucify man unkindly upon a crossed out sum beyond the the digits of everybody's desktop calculator."
"The survivors would be the ones we are fighting at this time."
Good post....that gave me something to reflect on....
I'm not sure 'the survivors', or at least most of them,
will even survive, although there are those who
ALWAYS seem to 'land on their feet'....
at the rate the crooks are being taken down,
we may wind-up with quite a different world
than anyone can even imagine....
even those with 'the most' are not assured
of anything these days imo....
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Should Obama Fire Gen. McChrystal? -- doran, 07:35:46 11/22/09 Sun
MacArthur was playing a back-channel game to win the support of like-minded Republican congressmen to expand the war, but Truman faced him down. With the support of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as well as the Secretaries of State and Defense, Truman rose to the occasion and fired the distinguished "old soldier."
MichaelH, WALIAC -- Raja (), 07:29:22 11/22/09 Sun
I usually get up between 3-5 am. Since I am retired, I see no reason to change clothes, specially because I will go for part 2 of sleep right after I eat some food. Since I get up this early, there is nothing else to do but to come to the computer. Even if I could do things, the severe arthritic pains prevent me from doing physical labor.
Yes, the world is getting nuttier each passing day. Who would survive this insanity and how is the big question. Deflation-inflation debate is still going on. Gold goes higher but not gold stock funds. What is one to do? Living in a track home does not encourage one to buy physical gold. In any case, one won't be able to use them for buying food in a store....assuming there is still food available. Peak oil, deficits, debt, coming market collapse (or 35000 on the Dow?) It is all so confusing. 20 years ago, times were a bit more predictable.
Amazing: we are hell bent on destroying ourselves as a nation and take down the rest of the world with us. The survivors would be the ones we are fighting at this time. Since the muslim nations never even tried to climb economic mountain, they have nowhere to fall to. A man lying on the ground does not fall, only the ones standing on the edge of a cliff: that' where we appear to be.
Oh well. We can't do anything about it.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/19/fed-beaten-bill-to-audit_n_364546.html -- fedfighter, 07:17:55 11/22/09 Sun
Liberals are waking up to the nefariousness of the Fed
buy it and forget it -- 2bro2b, 06:58:56 11/22/09 Sun
Selling it and forgetting it, lightened up by a third, from 9k sh to 6k...more at rising price points to maintain allocation, still at 5% overall assets after sales, 25% of the acct its in. In event of decline precious metals overweight won't be reaccumulated. Overweight was much
higher late 'Nineties, early 'Oughts.
There seems to be a Peter Principle on steroids associated with mining operations, the worst possible thing that can happen will at the worst possible time in the worst possible way.
I've found good grades tend to be forgiving of that, more marginal operations are soon issuing shares and piling on debt.
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hamilton -- mugwump, 06:22:40 11/22/09 Sun
And I suspect this GLD growth and resulting asymmetric upside impact will continue for years to come yet. Why? America’s stock investors remain woefully underinvested in gold. At the end of October, GLD held $36.9b worth of gold on behalf of US stock investors. This sounds massive, and it is relative to gold. For comparison, the big recent Reserve Bank of India purchase of 200t of IMF gold that laid the psychological foundation for this latest gold surge was just a $6.7b deal.
But compared to the gigantic stock markets, GLD remains trivial. The same day GLD held $36.9b worth of gold, the S&P 500 alone had a collective market capitalization of $9870.4b! Despite GLD’s phenomenal success, it remains tiny in the grand scheme of stock investing. It is only worth 0.4% of the S&P 500’s market cap, and a smaller fraction still of the entire stock markets’. Yet even the most conservative advisors recommend all investors have at least 5% of their portfolios in gold, with some recommending up to 20%.
GLD could still grow by an order of magnitude from today’s levels and still only hit 3.7% of the S&P 500’s market cap! So GLD’s holdings, and thus its upside impact on this gold bull, should continue to grow as long as stock investors remain underinvested in gold. This secular gold bull which started in April 2001 is probably only half over today, and mainstream gold investment should continue to grow throughout its entire second half. So GLD’s holdings ought to grow on balance for many more years yet.
Iraq report: Secret papers reveal blunders and concealment -- Iainmac, 06:04:30 11/22/09 Sun
The “appalling” errors that contributed to Britain’s failure in Iraq are disclosed in the most detailed and damning set of leaks to emerge on the conflict.
forgot this one .. -- Delta-au, 03:34:28 11/22/09 Sun
Add Tim Ball's article in CanadaFreePress to the mix .. clippings ..
Global Warming is often called a hoax. I disagree because a hoax has a humorous intent to puncture pomposity. In science, such as with the Piltdown Man hoax, it was done to expose those with fervent but blind belief. The argument that global warming is due to humans, known as the anthropogenic global warming theory (AGW) is a deliberate fraud. I can now make that statement without fear of contradiction because of a remarkable hacking of files that provided not just a smoking gun, but an entire battery of machine guns.
Someone hacked in to the files of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) based at the University of East Anglia. A very large file (61 mb) was downloaded and posted to the web. Phil Jones Director of the CRU has acknowledged the files are theirs. They contain papers, documents letters and emails. The latter are the most damaging and contain blunt information about the degree of manipulation of climate science in general and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in particular.
Climate science hijacked and corrupted by this small group of scientists
Dominant names involved are ones I have followed throughout my career including, Phil Jones, Benjamin Santer, Michael Mann, Kevin Trenberth, Jonathan Overpeck, Ken Briffa and Tom Wigley. I have watched climate science hijacked and corrupted by this small group of scientists. This small, elite, community was named by Professor Wegman in his report to the National Academy of Science (NAS).
Total Control
These people controlled the global weather data used by the IPCC through the joint Hadley and CRU and produced the HadCRUT data. They controlled the IPCC, especially crucial chapters and especially preparation of the Summary for PolicyMakers (SPM). Stephen Schneider was a prime mover there from the earliest reports to the most influential in 2001. They also had a left wing conduit to the New York Times. The emails between Andy Revkin and the community are very revealing and must place his journalistic integrity in serious jeopardy. Of course the IPCC Reports and especially the SPM Reports are the basis for Kyoto and the Copenhagen Accord, but now we know they are based on completely falsified and manipulated data and science. It is no longer a suspicion. Surely this is the death knell for the CRU, the IPCC, Kyoto and Copenhagen and the Carbon Credits shell game.
CO2 never was a problem and all the machinations and deceptions exposed by these files prove that it was the greatest deception in history, but nobody is laughing. It is a very sad day for science and especially my chosen area of climate science. As I expected now it is all exposed I find there is no pleasure in “I told you so.”
CRU Hacked .. -- Delta-au, 03:01:45 11/22/09 Sun
story seems to be gathering momo .. when I checked the
global press releases 12 hours ago, there was nothing
apart from 2 blogs assoctiated with the UK-telegraph
and Aus-HeraldSun .. IOW .. no direct media story ..
now it's growing some legs ..
UK - Daily Mail Online ..
One of the world’s leading climate change research centres has been accused of manipulating data on global warming after thousands of private emails and documents were leaked.
Hackers targeted the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit and published the files, including some personal messages, on the internet.
Among the most damaging is one which appears to suggest using a ‘trick’ to massage years of temperature data to ‘hide the decline’.
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USA - Washington Post ..
Hackers broke into the electronic files of one of the world's foremost climate research centers this week and posted an array of e-mails in which prominent scientists engaged in a blunt discussion of global warming research and disparaged climate-change skeptics.
The skeptics have seized upon e-mails stolen from the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia in Britain as evidence that scientific data have been rigged to make it appear as if humans are causing global warming. The researchers, however, say the e-mails have been taken out of context and merely reflect an honest exchange of ideas.
University officials confirmed the data breach, which involves more than 1,000 e-mails and 3,000 documents, but said they could not say how many of the stolen items were authentic.
"We are aware that information from a server in one area of the university has been made available on public websites," the statement says. "We are extremely concerned that personal information about individuals may have been compromised. Because of the volume of this information we cannot currently confirm what proportion of this material is genuine."
Michael E. Mann, who directs the Earth System Science Center at Pennsylvania State University, said in a telephone interview from Paris that skeptics are "taking these words totally out of context to make something trivial appear nefarious."
In one e-mail from 1999, the center's director, Phil Jones, alludes to one of Mann's articles in the journal Nature and writes, "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (i.e., from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."
Mann said the "trick" Jones referred to was placing a chart of proxy temperature records, which ended in 1980, next to a line showing the temperature record collected by instruments from that time onward. "It's hardly anything you would call a trick," Mann said, adding that both charts were differentiated and clearly marked.
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The first time I've ever agreed w/ our resident anti-gold gold bug -- fedfighter, 02:34:45 11/22/09 Sun
Bob What the hay has gotten into to you, granted RIP should be R.I.P.but I never said I believed Fulford but the guy obviously has his contacts, how else does he get a interview w/ Davey Rockerfeller. Melloooooow Big Bob Ommmmmmmmm
Black Bob....y0u need to get OUT more often before you... -- Norwester, 01:19:19 11/22/09 Sun
.
...blow a gasket chompin' butts around here....
.
....I don't have a Palmer cue....I have an old Brunswick
snooker cue...that had the handle drilled and about
another good 12-oz. of lead poured in, sealed with resin
when it cooled [no, it didn't crack the rosewood, either!].
It's prolly a good 28-ozer that SMACKS a cue ball so
crisply that it's scary....I used it when I partnered-up
with another pool-hall wastrel like myse'f one summer
'tween our sophomore and junior years of college to win
the city snooker tournament out there in O-dess-A...yup,
coupla punk 19-year-olds beatin' out a field of some
120 teams over that 10-week run....
Ah thin' that ol' cue is up in my attic, I hope...broke
the damn cheezey plastic "pool shooter" atop the trophy
some years back during a move....the base may be up there
too...somewhere...lots of good memories up in that attic...
Phoney Money, Phoney Wars -- crazytimes, 01:08:30 11/22/09 Sun
are being exposed more and more. They must be preparing something BIG folks. It can't even be a false flag thing like 9/11. Nobody trusts a single Government anymore. As crazy as it sounds, I'm wondering if they're gonna have some false Alien/UFO show staged. I'm not kidding. Why is ABC's "V" coming out now? It could be social engineering.
Gila - With such a low opinion of us, why do you post here? -- morbius, 01:07:02 11/22/09 Sun
A cry for help - like Bullishonhisself? You have gone as bat-shit for Obama as Bullish did for Sarah Palin. Perhaps Crazytimes could talk you down....
Local Update -- Gila_Bob, 00:54:14 11/22/09 Sun
Friends:
Saturday Afternoon
No Big Games in Town
No Major Events
4 PM: Southbound (and Northbound) I-25 Packed Solid 5-25 MPH, Bumper-to-Bumper thru Downtown Denver
Mustta bin allah the Unemployed l00kin' ta Hand Out Resumes
On the Weak End
After the Bidnethe$ are Cl0$ed
Got a Cue-Smith to Ask Around for Parts for My Original by Palmer Jointed Cue..........
A Little Work and this Baby I won in 1969 for $35 will be Worth $3,500 Minimum
Played 3-Cushion Billiards WELL for 2 Hours
No Action...............Even with a Healthy Spot
Averaging 1 3-Cushion Billiard per 2 Innings..........
Semi-Pro Level
LOL
8 PM: Once again I-25 Packed Solid 20-35 MPH Northbound (and Southbound), Bumper-to-Bumper thru Downtown Denver
Must been allah said Unemployed Job-$eeker$ Returning Home
After discovering allah the Bidnethes WERE Cl0$ed
Took Wife out for Birthday Dinner
Asked HER if I l00ked Black
No Dice.............She said I was Still White
Told her about the Voy CONfU$ion
She said that Retards have those kinds of Problems
Modest Traffic coming Home @ 10 pm.........
SAtill pretty busy for Late @ Night
Suspect many of those Job Seekers were now L0$t
LOL
Further Reports as Warranted
Big Bob
(It is very c0mm0n for DelU$ional Bigg0t$
T0 presume that their Logical Better$
Must bee of another Race or "Group"
Since these nitwits believe that Every One
Live$ in the same kinda Trailer Park
They Dew.............
Kinda Sad, Really, Never able to l00k past their Prejudices
To see the Larger & Happier Whirled
Butttttttttttttttttttttttt
That's How It Is When U Think Yer Life issa Shit Sandwich
And you've only Eaten the Corner of one Piece
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/ -- fedfighter (http://www.voy.com/64855/newpost.html), 00:17:18 11/22/09 Sun
The Feds may be planning to dump all the toxic garbage on Bank of America
The desperate, cornered criminal rats who own the Federal Reserve Board are now planning to take all their toxic financial waste and dump it on Bank of America and make it the fall guy, according to a CIA source. That is why they have been unable to find a new CEO. However, that is not going to be enough to save the criminals.
Multiple, reliable sources including MI6 and the Chinese government now confirm that the Federal Reserve Board and the Bank of England were using gold-plated tungsten to “back up” their massive selling of gold futures. As the contracts came due for the delivery, the scam was unveiled.
an IQ of 128 and you can go fuck yourself -- Rack, 23:57:43 11/21/09 Sat
Carmack that 128 isn't your IQ that's your asshole rating.
I believe 128 is a perfect score. Way to go asshole!
Viva la Restoration -- Romanov (), 22:58:45 11/21/09 Sat
When the smoke cleared, we Americans found ourselves the subjects of a gangster state, in thrall to a clutch of greedy, corrupt and incompetent banks which only days before had failed. We were now the guarantors of trillions of dollars in worthless assets that had generated billions in profits for those same banks in recent years. Their gains remained their gains; but their losses were now our losses. Our money, the reserve currency of the world, was now backed by toxic waste.
I am in turn in absolute awe -- morbius -- Carmack (), 21:07:06 11/21/09 Sat
of your complete inability to behave in a way that is anything less than an egotistical arsehole who is unable to obtain a passing grade in elementary science ?
ps I also have a special certificate in psychometrics and qualified to assign you a failing "D" !!! ie for "dumb" ! lol
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Big Bang -- mozel (), 21:06:21 11/21/09 Sat
Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.
We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noonday as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men. - the vision of Isaiah
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First national bank issues notes 1791 -- Jasper, 21:01:54 11/21/09 Sat
Carmack - 'The Relative Humidity drops' - That's Rocket Scientist for 'gets drier' -- morbius (), 20:42:21 11/21/09 Sat
Now if I were to say that you had a Maple, that does not imply that you have ONLY ONE Maple. You might have two, or even three, and the statement would still be true. Likewise, if I say that it 'feels dry' that does not imply that it ONLY feels dry. The fact that the air actually IS drier was covered with the statement about the relative humidity dropping.
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Carmack - I'm sorry. I am being mean. -- morbius, 20:58:15 11/21/09 Sat
It must have been Earl's call for more vituperation. He gestured hypnotically. I started it. I'm guilty. I must be guilty.....
morbius, -- Carmack, 20:46:19 11/21/09 Sat
Keep googling and trying Mr Morby but you still dumb dumb dumb!!!!!
BTW I have a sci degree,and two post graduate degrees and an IQ of 128 and you can go fuck yourself ! lol
I'm guessing he's black, an illegal, or on welfare. --- RIP -- Miro (), 20:28:14 11/21/09 Sat
oh my my, here comes the real bright knucklehead from Canada.
Stupid piece of shit thinks that all black people are dumb, illegal folks are even worse, and only thing he can associate with is being on welfare as his mom still feeds him. Quality of posts on this board is really reaching a gutter level. No wonder when RIP posts 24x7
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Sounds as if Morby -- Carmack, 20:30:55 11/21/09 Sat
failed grade 8 science !!!!!!
Morby the moron -- Carmack, 20:28:08 11/21/09 Sat
"The relative humidity drops (feels dry) on account of the ability of the newly heated air to absorb more water in the form of humidity.
"feels dry" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Who the F wrote that? Must have been your doppelganger ? ie your moron doppleganger ! lol
Of course "moron" if the heating system in effect dries out the air it is going to "feel dry " !!! Stop being redundant !!
morbius, -- Carmack, 19:50:08 11/21/09 Sat
The inside air doesn't just "feel dry" ,moron it is dry !!! So before you hurt yourself with vain, unclear explainations its the "heating systems" that dry out the air.
Summer frequently 75% , winter often 40%. One should strive to keep it above 50 % !!
well that is what I meant to say -- Nuclearson, 19:42:45 11/21/09 Sat
you said it differently
maybe better
hell I got asperger syndrome
what the hell do you expect?
Nuc - It's not the heat, it's the humidity -- morbius, 19:39:36 11/21/09 Sat
The warmer the air, the more water it can hold as humidity. The warm, humid air inside gradually escapes to the outside where the moisture condenses out in the cold. The warm, humid air that escaped is replaced by cold non-humid air. Your heating system gradually raises the temperature of the new,cold air. The relative humidity drops (feels dry) on account of the ability of the newly heated air to absorb more water in the form of humidity.
ever wonder why the air inside can get so damn dry in the winter? -- Nuclearson (), 19:30:03 11/21/09 Sat
because the outside air is colder than the inside to start with
which means the outside air is considerably denser
and moister
this is why when the outside air seeps inside the house it expands so the water in the air dilutes
..discuss
(who started this 'discuss' crapola?)
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oilboiler - Yep -- morbius, 19:11:17 11/21/09 Sat
Always misunderestimating (W.) the power of The Dark Side.
Crosses in Astro photographs -- sesquiculus, 18:05:59 11/21/09 Sat
The "crosses" you see in some astronomical photos are merely diffraction patterns from the supporting struts of the secondary mirror in reflecting telescopes. That is, they are an artifact. Refracting telescopes ( with lenses and thus no secondary mirror supports ) don't have them.
RIP - I believe Gila -- morbius, 18:03:46 11/21/09 Sat
I always thought he was very bright (even if he is black). I can't believe he has suddenly become stupid. It appears he has simply lost his mind.
Gila appears to be just another partisan basturd. -- RIP (), 17:58:40 11/21/09 Sat
I'm guessing he's black, an illegal, or on welfare.
Prolly all 3.
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Gila - Once againyer Fulla Shit, m0rbiU$ -- morbius, 17:58:27 11/21/09 Sat
Come on Gila. I expect better than that from you. Stop acting like Carmack. What's your beef? What specifically did I say that was not true? Was it someone else railing about sending OPKs to Iraq? What's changed (other than the fact that YOUR man is now directing the slaughter?)
Gila - Remember the acrimony over the war on the old board -- morbius, 17:50:26 11/21/09 Sat
If I remember correctly, you were a proud member of the 'Gang of Fools'. The neocon contingent was so very concerned about the propriety of our language and the tone of our remarks toward our then Glorius Liter, GWB. They were equally unconcerned about the propriety of dropping bombs on innocent civilians half a world away. Excuse me for noticing, Gila, but it seems you have slipped a bit......
Gila - The darkies can vote for anything/anyone they want -- morbius, 17:29:45 11/21/09 Sat
as long as they understand the LIMITS of the franchise - you know enumerated powers - that kinda thing.
BTW, Why haven't we heard a peep from you about the wars since BO took office? I seem to vaguely remember you sounding off about OPKs being sent to fight for, what was it? If only we had Chrisophilos to maintain the historical record.
Speaking of Sabbath's -- MichaelH, 17:28:23 11/21/09 Sat
(I never got paid for food fighting. Since no checks arrived, I refuse all further work in that area)
but speaking of Sabbaths, I found today the 3rd cycle holding silver down to 1/3 the 1980's high versus golds 4/3's 1980 highs.
1st major cycle was 4 days after Oct 28/8 low on a Sabbath. 2nd major cycle was July 13/9 (Monday) and the third major cycle is on a Sabbath which corresponds to the date Nov 21, 2009.
The Stupid Guy -- Gila_Bob, 17:23:19 11/21/09 Sat
Would be the One who DID NOT Cover His Debt
And the Dishonest One would not Pay His Bills
Why dincha Take Down thee el-Buck0 @ $0.89
Wait...........I Know...........
Lottsa Blather.......... N0 $kin in the GamE
jU$t an Empty Ve$$el Screeching at Other$
A Sad Sack...........A Lame-0.........A Charlatan
A Wanna-Bee..........A Spiggot........A Noise Box
A Stupid Person........A Mental cRIPple
They have the Washington agreement -- Skinee, 17:22:34 11/21/09 Sat
to keep the centrals from flooding the market with gold.
And you guys say it ain't a bubble.
Give yo head a shake.
Gila - I suppose you inferred my preference for fascists -- morbius (), 17:14:13 11/21/09 Sat
from my enthusiastic support of GWB and his invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Or was it from my oft expressed love of Clinton Administration?
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I'd better go Report ta GOLDman $ack$ -- Gila_Bob, 17:14:03 11/21/09 Sat
Friends:
That thee Vaporous Mental cRIPple
Has gone off the Track$
LOL
Big Bob
(That's kinder than sayin' he's more than a FEW
Bricks shy offa Load)
Sabbath or a sabbath is generally a weekly day of rest -- MichaelH, 17:13:23 11/21/09 Sat
and/or time of worship that is observed in Abrahamic religions and other faiths.
***
Satur(n)day is considered Vedically and of older traditions to be the day of rest.
So, if you have nothing much informative to say today, GIVE IT A REST.
When is a penny worth a million $$$$$$ -- Jasper, 16:38:51 -- Delta-au (), 17:11:03 11/21/09 Sat
ahemm .. an Australian penny was on sale here for AUD$ TWO million this year ..
The 1930 penny was a proof coin .. one of only 6 struck ..
Three are held by institutions .. 2 in Museums and 1 in an Art Gallery ..
The other three are in private collections.
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mental cRIPple @ "$h0rt$" -- Gila_Bob (), 17:07:20 11/21/09 Sat
Yer unbelievably "simple" & Disingenu0U$
In addition to being a Lying Jack-A$$
I SOLD GAS I WAS GOING-TO-PRODUCE in the Future
To cover an Acqui$ition$ Debt Pay-Mint Schedule
I did not "short" Anything
There were BUYER$ who wanted the Ga$ at a FIXED PRICE
And Our PartnershiP Had it For $ALE
CONtinue to Blather 0n
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What an idiot -- RIP, 17:04:22 11/21/09 Sat
Haven't you digested that boot yet?
m0rbiU$ -- Gila_Bob, 17:02:00 11/21/09 Sat
Friend:
Have u No Sovereignty Now?????????
No Free Will????????
I know u'd prefer n0n-electede Liter$
I jU$t figured u'd wanna (g00$e-)Step-Up
Big Bob
(Maybe if only Rich White Non-Jewish Non-Liberal Guys Got ta Vote
Yeah...........That's the Ticket..............
And I KNOW ERLE, a-p0ll0, and multiple udders Here
tHINK that WOOD BEE bE$T.................LOL)
Jasper, 16:28:20 11/21/09 Sat -- LilDevil, 16:52:25 11/21/09 Sat
That's better lol
Assuming the crosses were not added just for 'effect'
I'd guess they're slightly over exposed bright spots, the galaxy itself is the object of the photo (obviously) and the photo was adjusted accordingly....I have no 1st hand knowledge but I doubt NASA would purposely dress that image up with phony crosses. It does not need it since the image is already quite 'awe inspiring'.
Now the source of the bright spots (crosses) look to me like a much more distant and much much more energetic object(s) than the subject galaxy...IE Super Novas and other extreme phenomenon. icbw
Gila - Sorry, not interested in ruling the world (only in having soveriegnty over my self) -- morbius, 16:50:07 11/21/09 Sat
Take it up with your bagel, pizza and chitlin eatin' poseur.
U.K. Royal Mint Quadruples Production of Gold Coins -- Jasper, 16:46:17 11/21/09 Sat
Nov. 19 (Bloomberg) -- The U.K.’s Royal Mint, established in the 13th century, more than quadrupled production of gold coins in the third quarter after demand for the metal increased as investors sought to hedge against a weakening dollar.
Output rose to 32,735.8 ounces from 7,500.2 ounces a year before, according to data obtained by Bloomberg News under a Freedom of Information Act request. Production in the first nine months more than tripled to 100,391.3 ounces, the data show.
photo of the day -- Jasper -- Earl, 16:40:58 11/21/09 Sat
It's my understanding that those bright points are inherent to telescope optics and cannot be removed. There is also a notably less brilliant star on the lower edge of the galaxy ...... it displays the same artifact at lower intensity.
Get it? -- RIP, 16:40:15 11/21/09 Sat
Gila IS an achiever....even though he can no longer find oil.
Gas is a whole nuther story.
He's living off his hedge....ie. short.
While selling well short of his $15 call.
How much of those short proceeds are you donating to Obama's grand plan?
When is a penny worth a million $$$$$$ -- Jasper, 16:38:51 11/21/09 Sat
When is a penny worth a million dollars?
When it's a 1795 reeded-edge U.S. penny, one of only seven known to exist. It recently sold for nearly $1.3 million at auction—the first time a one-cent coin has cracked the million-dollar price barrier.
It follows the sale earlier this year of a high-end collection of rare half-dollars that fetched $1.1 million at auction. At the same time, popular $20 U.S. Saint-Gaudens gold pieces from the early 20th century are commanding $1,700 apiece, sight unseen, in decent, though not perfect condition, topping a record high last seen more than two decades ago.
Gila - That quote was from your hero -- morbius, 16:28:55 11/21/09 Sat
didn't recognize the lyrics (or the type of craven political lout to which the lyrics refer)?
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