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Subject: Chapter 25


Author:
kzin
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Date Posted: 00:04:05 01/27/10 Wed

I have to say I very much did not enjoy the turn the story takes here. It seems as if it is pulling out all the worst Sunday School cliches at once. To be somewhat fair, Nanci is exactly the kind of person who makes a splashy "conversion": someone with a long history of bad decisions and a desperate need to signal repentance to family, friends (if any) and strangers alike. I can only hope the story goes on to show that "coming to Jesus" does not automatically make everything all better for Nanci. As for Crystal, well, when a gal sets her sights on a guy, a little thing like religion is not going to get in her way.

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Subject: Square One starts


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 21:33:02 02/07/10 Sun

All right, here we go with Square One. It's a longish book and will take us four months to get through. It is, for now, the end of the Spearfish Lake series, although there are books involving Spearfish Lake in other series to come, and I have some future Spearfish Lake series stories in the works.

If anyone wants to order downloads I'll be around until about midnight Eastern Standard Time, and then further downloads will have to wait until Monday morning. PDF downloads from Lulu.com have also been enabled.

-- Wes

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Subject: Air crash near Boulder CO


Author:
Jim Wickman
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Date Posted: 12:57:02 02/07/10 Sun

Reading about the collision of a small plane and a tow plane near Boulder CO brought me to recall the time that Mark and Jackie (Rocinante) spent hauling gliders into the air. Sure as shootin ' I'm going to be re-reading Rocinante real soon now.

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Subject: Canyon Fires ends


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 21:17:22 02/04/10 Thu

So, with tonight's upload Canyon Fires comes to an end.

I have to be honest and say that this book gave me more trouble than any three other books combined, mostly because I screwed up the initial premise. The original idea was to do a routine Canyon trip, led by Crystal and Scooter, with a bunch of strangers, each with their own issues. As the story would progress, there would be conflicts, friends made, issues worked out, and, well, other stuff.

Then I got the idea of using the wedding trip instead. This torpedoed the idea of it being a bunch of strangers. When I sat down and started writing, each individual or couple seemed to need a lot of backstory, things that people have already read other Dawnwalker books already knew. Eventually the backstory drug the whole thing down, despite two different false starts.

Eventually, after putting the book on the shelf for a while, it struck me that I was starting the book in the wrong place -- it needed to start with Nanci showing up at Canyon Tours broke and hungry. Good idea, although that meant that I had to kill a lot of the story that built up to the start of the trip.

I stalled on it again after a while, when the need for the religious conversion scene became clear. Nanci needed a dose of salts and with Preach, Kevin and to a degree Tanisha as examples it seemed like the motivator that was needed to make some of the changes in her life stick. I really didn't want to write that scene for any number of good reasons, but eventually reasoned that people do get conversions like that, and sometimes they stick -- so whether I agreed with it or not, it was a legitimate thing to write about.

When it came time to get the story ready to post, I read through it, and realized there was still too much backstory. In the course of an afternoon I ripped about 50,000 words out of it wholesale, which made the story move better. I suppose I've written about 300,000 words to get the 135,000 that you have seen. I think it moves better and is more readable now than before I started editing with an ax, so I'm glad I did it, and a lot of people seem to have liked the story.

In order to do the story, I also had to fuzz a few things -- the biggest one of which is that we'd already made this trip once in Blue Beauty, so I had to downplay Myleigh in the middle part of the story, in fact, for much of the story, but there was no point in telling that part of the story twice.

Complicated? Yeah. I wish now I'd stuck with the original idea, but what's done is done. Maybe. The as yet unnamed "Dawnwalker 9" is kicking around in my mind and that might be one way to do it . . . or maybe not. We'll all have to wait and see.

For now, "Square One" starts Monday. It's a very different book. The blurb for it goes, "After Danny Evachevski found his wife cheating on him, he had no choice but to get a divorce, go repair ties with his family and friends and start over. It wouldn't break his heart to leave a life and a job he detested, either. It isn't easy to go back home -- things have changed, and changed a lot in the twelve years he's been gone. In spite of family and friends, he's lonely and often seems at loose ends while he watches people that have made something of their lives. Then, quite unexpectedly, things change. Maybe there's hope for him after all!"

-- Wes

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Subject: Canyon fires ends


Author:
john
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Date Posted: 13:25:29 02/05/10 Fri

Danny and Carole Carter now?

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Subject: Magic Carpet voting enabled on SOL


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 08:02:26 02/03/10 Wed

For you SOL readers, voting has been enabled for Magic Carpet.

-- Wes

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Subject: Iditarod Trail song


Author:
Kirby Lambert
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Date Posted: 09:35:35 02/01/10 Mon

For those of you that might be interested here is a link to a music video that features clips and stills from the 2006 race backed by Hobo Jim singing "The Iditarod Trail".

http://web.mac.com/Macgellan/iWeb/Iditarod/Iditarod%20Trail.html

Kirby

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Subject: Late posting


Author:
Jim
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Date Posted: 23:37:39 01/31/10 Sun

I know that Wes has been having some medical problems. I hope they are not reoccuring as it seems that the Sunday posting is late. (at least for me) It is now 10:36 CST on Sunday evening, and Wes usually posts promptly at about 9 pm.

At any rate, I hope you are well, and I continue to enjoy your stories and am looking forward to the next one.

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Subject: What's your favorite scene?


Author:
Lew
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Date Posted: 12:09:31 01/29/10 Fri

I'm sure everyone reading Wes' stories has a favorite scene or situation. For me, it's the Halloween Party and aftermath in "Broken Axle Road. What's yours?

Lew

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Subject: Improving SPLTWiki


Author:
SPLTWikiSysop
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Date Posted: 21:10:27 01/26/10 Tue

I'm quite delighted to see how much information is now available on the Spearfish Lake Tales Wiki!

One thing that I've noticed is that we aren't referencing the source of information in Wes' books that we have collected for a character or location, etc. This follows the Wikipedia convention that it should contain nothing that can't be found somewhere else on the Internet.

Under the page for Jason Bailey I've put one reference as a potential format model.

Comments, suggested alternative formats are welcomed - either in this forum or on a Talk page on SPLTWiki.

thanks

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Subject: The Canyon is working its magic


Author:
Joe 'n MD
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Date Posted: 22:06:47 01/27/10 Wed

Part of our relationship with God is to realize that we are not at his level and that instead of trying to bring God down to us by making Him relevant, we need to be raised up to His.

The Canyon has a way of making you feel insignificant when stacked up against the wonders of His creation as you make your way down the river. It's inspiring. So maybe Noah was a catalyst to the family(ies) that got them to thinking about how we fit in God's plan, not how God fits in ours.

The title of this book is Canyon Fires. What is being kindled? Is it faith? Is it love? Is it family? All I know is we have about 5 more chapter to see where Wes is taking us and to set the groundwork for new paths for the family Chaldek. I'm aboard -- love the ride so far and can't wait for the next turn in the story.

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Subject: Chapter 22


Author:
dotB
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Date Posted: 21:59:24 01/19/10 Tue

Sheesh, and I thought I used some pretty weird plot twists and "odd" medical conditions in my attempts to create stories that stretched peoples imaginations.

(Shaking head slowly - and checking my medical texts, while muttering; "Now, what is Wes up to? Is this really simple or quite complex? Or - am I being misdirected so I end up chasing a wild goose?")

.B

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Subject: Square 1


Author:
byte mangler
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Date Posted: 20:56:35 01/25/10 Mon

Is this "Randy and the Alien" renamed?

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Subject: Husky racing news from the BBC


Author:
Steve_h
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Date Posted: 14:30:55 01/22/10 Fri

Just seen this on the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8472833.stm

though I don't think it's held on a golf course!

Steve

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Subject: Forum


Author:
Tucson
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Date Posted: 01:45:23 12/31/09 Thu

Wes
Is there any chance you could set the Forum set up to be more like the Posts on BTFH site? It would be much easer to follow the messages.

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Subject: BtFH?


Author:
Dmitri
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Date Posted: 09:39:38 01/17/10 Sun

Spearfishlakers,

> I've been to BtFH and very rarely go there at all, for several reasons.

I've seen that publicly and privately several times, and as often with a reason given, and I don't really understand it.

The main reason I come to Spearfish Lake Tales is for the stories. The main reason I go to Beyond the Far Horizon is for the stories. There are stories at BtFH that I understand are not available at any other site.

I can see possibly avoiding some parts of any Web site, but to avoid a whole site because of parts of it, I just don't understand. Most people claim they dislike the political bickering that goes on in the BtFH forums. However, you don't have to pass through the forums to get to the stories. You can bypass them. You have to physically click that On-Topic or Off-Topic link to get to the politics. The stories area is an entirely different one and has no more politics than in SFLT stories. Just click one of those links instead.

Personally, I get some good laughs clicking into the Off-Topic area once in a while just to see who all has made fools of themselves most recently. I can see that it might not be for everyone, though. The On-Topic area is much less political, though there is still some there. Like here, there is some good insight as to the stories presented. You can often just tell by thread subject if they have some potential to get out of hand, but not always. When things get uncomfortable for you in a thread, just don't visit it again. To me putting up with some is worth the rest, though. I'm sure some people can't hack even a little and that's fine. Just check out the stories instead. It's not a reason to shun the site entirely.

Dmitri


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Subject: Rafting! but not as we know it.


Author:
Andy Haworth
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Date Posted: 01:45:48 01/19/10 Tue

Just seen this on the BBC.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8466333.stm

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Subject: Turtle Lake Nudist Resort


Author:
Dael623
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Date Posted: 23:35:35 01/10/10 Sun

Wes...there are always bits and pieces here and there about the local nudist resort and Gil's (his wife's name escapes me this late at night!)association with it. Is there a story on your hard drive somewhere that deals with this place? As a social nudist I think it would be an interesting story!
Thanks in advance...Dael623

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Subject: Canyon Fires


Author:
Oz Ozzie
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Date Posted: 22:15:31 01/12/10 Tue

Where's Nanci? I thought the story was supposed to be about Nanci, but she's not even mentioned lately?

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Subject: Concert Harp


Author:
Steve_h
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Date Posted: 10:09:53 12/22/09 Tue

Having recently re-read Blue Beauty, and remembering Myleighs reaction to the full-size harp in chapter 36, I came across this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TD3k-orEVo.

Catrin Finch was the Prince of Wales' Offical Harper 2000 - 2004. There are some other clips on youtube - most classical pieces, but interesting.

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Subject: Shantyboat


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 14:08:32 01/15/10 Fri

Just as an off the wall question, has anyone here ever read and fallen in love with "Shantyboat" by Harlan Hubbard? Or am I one of only about five people that have ever heard of this old jewel?

-- Wes

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Subject: The Laughlin bunch


Author:
Bob
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Date Posted: 12:29:42 01/08/10 Fri

Gotta love the Laughlin bunch. They represent an all too large component of the visitors to most anywhere. Reminds me of a tee-shirt I couldn't resist picking up in Niagara Falls, Canada. It shows the cross-hairs of a scope on the front with large text saying, "Why is it called Tourist Season if we can't shoot them?"

I got a lot of muffled or stifled snickers from the staff of various locations when I wore it.

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Subject: Snowplow Extra comes to life int he UK


Author:
boballab
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Date Posted: 00:41:04 12/26/09 Sat

Hey Wes saw this little headline and said Omg Snowplow Extra comes to life.

"Passengers were rescued by a steam locomotive after modern rail services were brought to a halt by the snowy conditions in south-east England."

"Tornado, a £3m Peppercorn class A1 Pacific based at the National Railway Museum in York, was in the South East for one day, offering “Christmas meal” trips from London to Dover."

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/25/steam-train-rescues-stranded-passengers-in-britain-where-electric-trains-failed/#comment-273154

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Subject: Biomass Crop Assistance Program


Author:
Andy Haworth
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Date Posted: 01:19:35 01/10/10 Sun

Early Sunday morning here, so being quiet. I therefore am surfing around and reading the news, and came across this article in the Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/09/AR2010010902023.html?hpid=moreheadlines

Interesting I thought, how will this effect Ryan Plywood? Will they apply for the subsidy and get as much as possible back from the government, or will they carry on as normal and increase profits from the raised wood products prices.

Andy

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Subject: Nicole on Crystal


Author:
Hal
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Date Posted: 22:39:17 01/09/10 Sat

After the long build up, I loved Nicole's line at the end of Chapter 17 after they run Crystal Rapids: "Randy glanced at Nicole, again soaked to the skin in her bikini, the river water dripping off of her, and the smile he saw on her face was all the reward he needed. "Told ya that you could do it," she grinned." Her finest moment so far in all of Dawnwalker! And I rather love Nicole too, lol.

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Subject: Timeline of the stories?


Author:
Mike
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Date Posted: 12:36:22 01/07/10 Thu

Wes: Do you have a suggested sewquence to read the books that you have posted on the "Other Books" page at ?

I have a friend that I pointed at Rocinante last week, and he's wondering if there is a "preferred timeline" of sorts....

Mike

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Subject: Health update


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 21:44:00 01/05/10 Tue

Things were coming along pretty good there and I actually felt like writing a little, but over the weekend I developed a new sore spot that turns out is going to need supposedly minor surgery Wednesday afternoon. It's supposed to be an outpatient thing but it's late enough in the day that there's a possibility they could keep me again. We shall see.

This new problem has left me unable to sit comfortably, especially in an office chair, for any length of time -- an hour is about my maximum. Hopefully this surgery will clear up the problem and things can continue getting back to normal.

I'm really getting sick and tired of hurting all the time not being able to do anything useful, and not being able to keep my attention on anything. The sooner I'm over this and can get back to doing something, the better I will like it.

Thanks for all the messages of support. I am getting better but it looks like it's going to be a while, yet.

-- Wes

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Subject: Getting better slowly


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 15:19:10 12/20/09 Sun

Hi all!

I’m slowly getting better, although I’m still not back to normal. I was just getting so damn bored with sitting in the living room chair in a cold sweat with the computer at an awkward angle and no convenient way to type or do anything else that I had the computer set back up in my office where I do my writing. At least I’m now sitting at a halfway comfortable angle and have my familiar things around me. I’m going to try to catch up on e-mail and stuff that I’ve shorted the past ten days.

To make a long story short, I had a bad staph infection that I do not understand, not can I figure out where I got it. At that I spent five days in the hospital and probably should have been there longer. I’ve been sleeping irregularly and have discomfort finding a position where I can be comfortable for long. But today I at least feel like I’m getting better and getting a little bit more energy, and wanted to be doing something rather than just sitting there with a dazed expression on my face and nothing to hold my interest.

A few days ago I said I had an announcement but not the energy to write about it. So, now I’ll go back over it.

I’m sure most you know my daughter has spent the last two and a half years in China in the Peace Corps and as a student. It was a real adventure for her, and one of the adventures is that she met an English guy there, Dan. They visited here last summer, and headed back to where Dan was working on has degree in Chinese studies.

Or, at least everyone including Dan thought he was working on his degree. Turns out not; along toward the end of October they discovered that he had not received any credit for his last two years work and was not expected to. Needless to say, we got a very dispirited e-mail. Both Amanda and Dan were getting burned out by China anyway, and after a very long and hectic day with multiple e-mails, phone calls, Skype, Google chat and I think carrier pigeon between China, England and here a whole new plan for Dan’s future had been worked out. He and Amanda decided to move back here, where he will spend several semesters getting basic American college credit at a local community college, following which he will enroll in a Chinese studies program at a state university (unless, of course, he changes his mind -- he’s been in China for five years and like I said is pretty burned out on it.) They were out of China fairly quickly, spent five weeks in England with Dan’s family, and showed up here on Sunday after I’d been in the hospital for four days.

Now again, most of you know that in real life I run a little local weekly newspaper. It is so small that I don’t have anyone to back me up on a lot of the ins and outs of getting the paper out, and with me in the hospital there was only one way a paper was going to get out. Amanda grew up around the paper, learning a lot of how to run the software and computers in general, and although she’d never actually put a paper together and hadn’t been in the building in over three years she was the only hope. She really came through! So there I was, flat on my back in my hospital bed, phone in hand, coaching her through things like finding photo files. This, mind you, is after she’d been back in the states for less than 12 hours. It wasn’t the greatest paper we’ve ever put out but it worked, and we’re going to have to do it pretty much the same way this week, although I’ve been able to do quite a bit of work on it at home. I won’t be able to go into the office tomorrow as I have doctors appointments and am still on a catheter but we should be able to make it work.

So, as it turned out she turned up just in time. More than that, after Kathy and I have been empty nesters for a long time it’ll be interesting to have the kids home -- and I say kids, because while Amanda has been an only child I have come to really like Dan. Maybe I’ll actually be able to have the taste of having a bit of a son for a while.

Anyway, thanks for sticking with me and your showings of concern. I suspect it will be a while before I’m back to creative writing but at least I’m able to contemplate it. I have many e-mails to answer, especially to the SOL contingent that is currently reading Magic Carpet, but I’ll chip away at that to at least get something constructive done.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

-- Wes

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Subject: Lake Superior surfing


Author:
The Mage
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Date Posted: 00:33:00 01/04/10 Mon

I came home the other day and turned on the TV and was surprised to see that the News people were doing a segment on Lake Superior wintertime surfing. I missed some of the piece but did see enough to realize just how cold it had to be. They were surfing during a snow storm and yet they were all smiles--easy to see how much fun they were having. It brought memories back about our fearless trio, Crystal, Mieghly and Randy!!! Reality mirroring art, one might say.

The Mage

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Subject: The Desert Speaks On the Colorado


Author:
snib
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Date Posted: 16:59:29 01/03/10 Sun

On Friday I was watching TV on PBS and the "The Desert Speaks" came on and they were floating the Colorado. As they were putting in at Lees Ferry there was a short school bus being unloaded but it was white. I kept looking for a lady smoking a cigar but didn't see one. They stopped for a while a the Little Colorado and discussed the difference in the water between the water from the free Little Colorado and the water 'out of the bottom of the dam' in the Colorado. They had 3 musicians that played at Redwall Cavern. They camped at Nankoweap. The timing was great to tie into with Canyon Fires. They will be continuing the trip on Monday.

Snib

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Subject: Sting's Winter Songbook


Author:
Andy Haworth
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Date Posted: 02:41:58 01/01/10 Fri

Just watched a great music program on the BBC's IPlayer, Sting's Winter Songbook. There is a traditional Celtic Harp player on it. For any in UK who missed it, it is still available;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00pl1cf/Stings_Winter_Songbook/

Apparently the premier world showing was on PBS Great Performances at Thanksgiving, I have no idea if they do repeats, but a taster is available at;

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/episodes/sting-a-winter%E2%80%99s-night/creating-the-concert/890/

Andy

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Subject: Why Should Authors who’ve got Paper Books be Issuing E-Books?


Author:
Andy Haworth
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Date Posted: 04:56:51 12/28/09 Mon

Been looking round the web for ebooks from authors I enjoy. And found this page.

http://www.closed-circle.net/WhereItsAt/?page_id=11

Which basically says you will not get a paper book published unless the distributor wants it. And that the distributors criteria have nothing to do with a good story.

The Closed Circle site has, or will have, ebooks from C. J. Cherryh, Jane Fancher, Lynn Abbey and others.

Andy

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Subject: Chicago Electronics Show


Author:
Lew
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Date Posted: 18:57:51 12/27/09 Sun

Wes;

I believe that thsi question has been asked and answered, but I don't remember the answer. What book, if any, coveres the show in Chicago that Jennlynn was going to and Jon and Tanisha go to also?

Lew

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Subject: Iditerod On Discovery Now!


Author:
GeorgeTheCar
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Date Posted: 21:04:00 12/27/09 Sun

There is a 1 hour special on Discovery about the Iditerod now!

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Subject: Happy Holidays


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 21:03:00 12/24/09 Thu

Happy holidays, everyone!

I just made a special Christmas post to the website -- a little treat for the regular readers. We'll return to the regularly scheduled Canyon Fires with the regular Sunday night/Monday morning post.

-- Wes

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Subject: Shorts Outtakes and Rants


Author:
EdGreenberg
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Date Posted: 11:21:37 12/24/09 Thu

I was reading through my feeds this morning, when I happened upon this:

http://hawtness.com/2009/12/24/wtf-girl-photo-the-answer-better-damn-well-be-yes/

I will admit that I recognized the subject of the photo immediately.

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Subject: Advice needed


Author:
EmmSea
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Date Posted: 06:25:28 12/21/09 Mon

I cleared this with Wes a few months ago, but got sent overseas unexpectedly (non military), so never got a chance to post it.
I am thinking about doing the Grand Canyon in the May/June period of 2010. As there are big $s involved - I'll be travelling from Australia - I want to minimise risk.
So I am seeking advice (good, bad or ugly) on which company / tour to book.
I hope for public postings, but if you're uncomfirtable with that, then emmsea@hotmail.com will get me!
I thank you in anticipation,
EmmSea

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Subject: Get Better Real SOON


Author:
Jon
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Date Posted: 00:35:31 12/22/09 Tue

Wes; I guess I was behind the baen when you got sick. You are an outstanding writer. I missed your stories there for a while, and didn't know what happened. Get well real soon
as you are really missed.

Great Stories, Thank You.

Jon

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