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Subject: Re: Forgotten anniversaries


Author:
Dmitri
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Date Posted: 08:00:21 05/19/15 Tue
In reply to: Leo Kerr 's message, "Re: Forgotten anniversaries" on 19:39:47 05/16/15 Sat

>it almost sounds like you're proposing... a systemic
>method of... exploring history.
>

I'm not sure method matters a whole lot, and that will depend on teacher or curriculum requirements (or the committee stipulating such) at the school.

What I was questioning was content. I do agree that something probably needs to be taught, but teachers or curriculum committees also have to realize that interests differ in students. In teachers, too. And many students won't care at all about any aspect of history.

As I said before, there's an awful lot of history, more than can be learned by any one person, and more is happening all the time to be added to the whole. What portion of it to cover for a "history course?" Contrary to belief, they can't teach it all. It is always specifics that are taught, though some may be more general than others.

For instance, here in the USA, American History is the concentration. How much history of Thailand or Russian Georgia is taught here? Not much, if any at all. How much American History is taught in those and other countries, much less Michigan specific, or that of Chicago or Peru, Indiana? (That's "PEEE-Roo" by the way, not pronounced there like the country in South America.)

Looking at it that way, it's always some portion of a systemic whole in method or content, more specific than the term definition of "covering the whole system" (total world history?) would require.

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Author:
K Pelle aka dotB
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Date Posted: 19:50:07 05/21/15 Thu


>For instance, here in the USA, American History is the
>concentration. How much history of Thailand or
>Russian Georgia is taught here? Not much, if any at
>all. How much American History is taught in those and
>other countries, much less Michigan specific, or that
>of Chicago or Peru, Indiana? (That's "PEEE-Roo" by the
>way, not pronounced there like the country in South
>America.)
>

Hmm, I think this article says a lot about most of the educational system in the USA;
http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/one-third-of-american-8th-graders-think-canada-is-a-dictatorship-1.3082239

I read that and was stunned at the results.

kp
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Author:
Boyd Percy
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Date Posted: 18:34:02 05/22/15 Fri

>
>>For instance, here in the USA, American History is the
>>concentration. How much history of Thailand or
>>Russian Georgia is taught here? Not much, if any at
>>all. How much American History is taught in those and
>>other countries, much less Michigan specific, or that
>>of Chicago or Peru, Indiana? (That's "PEEE-Roo" by the
>>way, not pronounced there like the country in South
>>America.)
>>
>
>Hmm, I think this article says a lot about most of the
>educational system in the USA;
> >href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/one-third-of-amer
>ican-8th-graders-think-canada-is-a-dictatorship-1.30822
>39">http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/one-third-of-americ
>an-8th-graders-think-canada-is-a-dictatorship-1.3082239
>

>
>I read that and was stunned at the results.
>
>kp



I'm not surprised at all. I daresay that many middle and high school students in the U.S. probably have no idea where Canada is located.
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Author:
Mikey
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Date Posted: 11:37:41 07/01/15 Wed

>Hmm, I think this article says a lot about most of the
>educational system in the USA;
> >href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/one-third-of-amer
>ican-8th-graders-think-canada-is-a-dictatorship-1.30822
>39">http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/one-third-of-americ
>an-8th-graders-think-canada-is-a-dictatorship-1.3082239
>

>
>I read that and was stunned at the results.
>
>kp

Likewise.
My dad grew up in Canada and had a number of
interesting stories about his teenage years
in Toronto.


>I'm not surprised at all. I daresay that
>many middle and high school students in
>the U.S. probably have no idea where
>Canada is located.

True.
The teachers teach the exit exams and no
more than they have to.

After getting my amateur radio license I learned
a lot of world Geography ... because I had an
interest in doing so.
Every station is assigned a callsign by their
local radio authority. You are identified by
that callsign when on the air.
Anyway, one winter morning I asked the teacher
where Samoa was, as I'd talked to a radio
operator there the previous night - but it
was daytime and summer for him. The teacher
accused me of lying (she'd never heard of
ham radio) and sent me to the principal.
Fortunately the principal's uncle had been
a ham and had a clue.
The end result was that the teacher got
an education (what a concept!), and I
learned where Samoa was.


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