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Subject: Then how do you explain Christie Bartram: 5'3" ? Author: Teresa [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 20:19:29 11/11/02 Mon In reply to: hk missologist 's message, "ops...sorry! i forgot to add....i know its unfair but i've noticed that they're really into this height thing recently..:( 5'4 girls still have a shot...but if you're under, you're screwed! its pretty sad." on 09:19:33 11/11/02 Mon [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Then how do you explain Christie Bartram: 5'3" ? Author: steph [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:50:42 11/11/02 Mon teresa, i think she won because she's mixed and that last years miss tornoto wasn't that attractive! and she won 2nd place for mci is also cuz the contestents r not that attractive! and they also liked mixed girls! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: easy! MIXED. she wasn't all that either and looked very top heavy during the finals of mci. Author: hk missologist [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:15:21 11/12/02 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: also...christie was listed as 5'4 during the miss toronto pageant. who knows what her real height is. this yr's miss van's height has been altered too. either a bit taller or a bit shorter. i'm guessing shorter since some delegates are listed as 5'3 . i mean why on earth would u compete if you're 5'2? Author: hk missologist [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:20:44 11/12/02 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I understand the tendency towards taller girls, particularly at int'l and Chinese "beauty" pageants, but discouraging people from entering because they're short or petite is ridiculous. I'm 5'1" and that was the last thing on my mind...I was the shortest girl in the pageants I entered, but won titles in both. Yes, height is definitely an advantage, but to openly discourage people from entering is ludicrous. It's your life, make the decisions you want and have fun in the process. You can't control genetics. (And, I will add that height is NOT a factor in the Miss America system.) Author: Anna [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:18:53 11/12/02 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Well you can take it as a discouragement, but I was stating the fact that its sadly about height for most competitions. This is my opinion you don't have to take me seriously. If ONLY we could change genetics Author: hk missologist [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:15:32 11/12/02 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Yes, the height factor is unfortunately emphasized (although for modeling, standard minimum height for runway work is 5'7", and even that is considered short -- less fair, I'd say!); however, I would refrain from asking the question "why on earth" would you enter a pageant if you are 5'2". The wording of that question clearly implies a discouragement. Author: Anna [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:26:06 11/12/02 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: My apologies! It was one of those spur of the moment things. I'd actually wanted to say...'what's the pt if they only want tall winners' . Author: hk missologist [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:10:07 11/12/02 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]