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Date Posted: 12:45:51 12/01/02 Sun
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As Salaamu Alaikoum,
Praise be to Allah.
Sister: I am really grateful for your kind reply in helping me on my confusion. I hope you don't mind a followup question on this because I am really confused. It is not that I want to extend this into a debate. Please be kind and help. I will Insha'Allah accept whatever you say now but please let me clear my confusion. Jazakallah Khair
YOU KINDLY SAID:
"After the imam is finished praying then you complete what you missed"
This indeed is supported by the Hadith of the Holy Prophet.
Quoting the operative part:
"Whatever you catch up with, pray, and whatever you miss, make it up.” (al-Bukhaari, 636; Muslim, 602).
YOU ALSO KINDLY WROTE
"This is what is meant by whatever the latecomer who joins the prayer with the imam catches up with being the first part of his prayer.
On this basis, if the latecomer joins the imam in the second rak’ah of Maghrib prayer, then this rak’ah is the second for the imam and the first for this person who is praying behind him, then the third rak’ah for the imam is the second rak’ah for the person praying behind him. Then when the imam says the salaam, the person behind him should stand up and complete his prayer rather than giving salaams, and this will be the third rak’ah for him, and he should recite al-Faatihah silently in it. "
THe operative words are: "complete what you missed"
"whatever you miss, make it up.”
BUT if someone joins in the second Raka'ah, then by any stretch of imagination he missed the FIRST Raka'ah, i.e if he is FOLLOWING the Imam and is not on his own. For the Jmaa'ah a second Raka'a is a second Raka'ah, latecomer is part of Jama'ah and can not have his own way and say this is my first Raka'ah. Thus after the Jama'ah finishes he will "Catch up and finished what he missed" which was First Raka'ah and he must therefore recite some Ayaat after the Al-Faateha.
This is my point of confusion, and I will take your word once you confirm it to me please.
Wassalam and Thanks
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