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Subject: simon-hunt-hat-trick-gives-bees-crucial-play-off-win


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www.sundaymercury.net
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Date Posted: "Sun, Mar 20 2011, 16:37:04 GMT"
In reply to: Gary 's message, "Positives and Negatives" on "Sun, Mar 20 2011, 12:39:00 GMT"

http://www.sundaymercury.net/midlands-sport/midlands-rugby/pertemps-bees-rfc/2011/03/20/simon-hunt-hat-trick-gives-bees-crucial-play-off-win-at-moseley-66331-28368182/

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[> [> Subject: What Simon Hunt said


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Steve@Mose
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Date Posted: "Sun, Mar 20 2011, 16:45:12 GMT"

Well worth considering if you happen to operate in a coaching capacity:

“We do our homework and I don’t think they do their’s as much as they should do,” Hunt said. “Most people score tries by running around them.

“We watched the Moseley-Esher game before the end of the season and they were just running around them.

“We adapt from going wide to close, it’s not really a trade secret – it’s just picking your weapon at the right time and seeing what they do to fix it.”


Any suggestions on what weapons we might deploy against Esher?

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[> [> [> Subject: Homework


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Jel
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Date Posted: "Sun, Mar 20 2011, 17:52:14 GMT"

Well it did not work against Esher and nearly didn't against Moseley. We'll see if it does v Plymouth.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: frustrated


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moseman original
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Date Posted: "Sun, Mar 20 2011, 20:42:24 GMT"

I am totally at a loss about yesterdays debacle,we do have A GOOD BUNCH OF PLAYERS who need to be more of a TEAM and i believe we will STAY UP.
BUT it will be the senior players in the squad that will do it not Smithy,i have lost complete faith in him and he seems lost without his sidekick Don Caskie.
I think Smiths heart and mind is else where,never at presentations,never stays 5mins more than he should,never seems to be at the club,crucial times need crucial measures,extra training?extra coaching? i bet not,any interest Mr Smith?I REALLY HOPE SO AND YOU PROVE ME WRONG.
The slayer of mose, Simon Hunt fingered Smithy as not doing his job,on the face of it he has a point,with earnshaw & hunt, playing sevens style RUGBY was always on the cards,everyone knew that with a modicum of rugby nous,did we combat it?No did we mark hunt extra? No,so does simon hunt have a point?Do not ruin our club please Mr Smith,at least pay attention and give it 100% until the end of the season,then you can escape but please please be a PROFESSIONAL for the sake of our club.

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[> [> [> Subject: Hunt's words haunt


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Truth Seeker
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Date Posted: "Mon, Mar 21 2011, 2:33:49 GMT"

He has said what I have posted on here several times. We defend too narrowly and the opposition often can go outside because there is room to do so. It is so obvious why has Maggs(who is the backs coach) not fixed it? All he does is make 2 or 3 changes to the backs every game and doubtless is thinking of his latest changes for Friday!
To fix the problem does require the forwards to defend around the fringes and then the backs can go wider. It is not rocket science.
I agree too many changes all season result in little understanding being built up between players.
Also agree there is no harm in giving a go at 10 to Ollie as he is probably the most attack minded player we have. he cannot be worse than Davies who must be the biggest disappointment of the season. He can't kick for territory, hardly ever makes a break and his decision making is poor.
It is said Ollie is poor in defence which has some element of truth but in other teams the number 10 is not there for his defence and when defending a scrum or lineout the 10 moves to 13 and 12 or a flanker(lineout) stands at 10. Irish do it all the time with Lamb and in our league Donny do it with Roberts as do Esher with their 10.
We need to score tries in our remaining games and so we must play our most attacking team.Ollie at 10 and another winger (Styles) to support carter, Armitage, Reay and Bress would be my choice. I have to say Reay has done pretty well this season and Bishop does not look Championship match fit. Bees made breaks (or rather Hunt) down the middle. Let's go for broke because if we do lose let it be playing some real rugby.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: ollie


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bryan b jnr
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Date Posted: "Mon, Mar 21 2011, 21:44:07 GMT"

i think ollie back in at #10 would really work, as he used to play few years back.

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[> [> Subject: RFU CHAMPIONSHIP - Relegation play-offs: Moseley 34 Birmingham & Solihull 38


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Birmingham Post
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Date Posted: "Mon, Mar 21 2011, 13:09:38 GMT"

http://www.birminghampost.net/midlands-birmingham-sport/west-midlands-sports/rfu-news/2011/03/19/rfu-championship-relegation-play-offs-moseley-34-birmingham-solihull-38-65233-28371850/

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[> [> [> Subject: Preparation not to blame for defeat, says Moseley coach Smith


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Birmingham Post
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Date Posted: "Mon, Mar 21 2011, 13:12:24 GMT"

http://www.birminghampost.net/midlands-birmingham-sport/west-midlands-sports/rfu-news/2011/03/21/preparation-not-to-blame-for-defeat-says-moseley-coach-smith-65233-28375804/

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Sounds like he has given up !!


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Not good
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Date Posted: "Mon, Mar 21 2011, 22:22:49 GMT"


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[> [> [> Subject: It;s never his fault is it?


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BillesleyNomad
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Date Posted: "Tue, Mar 22 2011, 1:18:01 GMT"

When is Mr Smith going to man up and acknowledge some responisbility for the woeful inconsistancies HIS teams have displayed over the last 2 seasons? The finger is always pointing somewhere else!

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Blame game


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Rick
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Date Posted: "Tue, Mar 22 2011, 11:21:59 GMT"

I read Smithy's post match comments sometimes and wander if he was watching the same game as me.
Underperformance and failure to perform the basics has been a hallmark of his teams since he joined the club.
I think its completely unprofessional for a coach to castigate players in this manner.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Poll


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MG
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Date Posted: "Tue, Mar 22 2011, 12:05:52 GMT"

I would be interested to see the results of a poll on how many think smith should stay in charge or go???

I think he should see out the season and then go, personally!

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: how can we vote when we don't know the whole story?


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Hogan
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Date Posted: "Wed, Mar 23 2011, 11:15:37 GMT"

I think the main problem is attempting to move on from Dual Reg players too soon. As the Glos arrangement petered out and the Wuss deals all ended we just don't have the cash to fund "our own" players of that calibre.

To what extent this is Smithy's decision I'll never know, but I still give him the benefit of the doubt and get angered by demoralising rants on here calling for his head. I assume these are roundball fans, and welcome to Moseley you are, but please don't bring too much of that ethos with you. (especially the peculiar claim that players win games but coaches lose them. How bizarre is that!)


Most of all, don't panic. If ever there was a single defining characteristic of Mose sides over the years it's that old "when the going gets tough, the tough get going" spirit. Last year we lost three play off games before the going got tough enough to fire up performances at Rotherham and against Cov. We've only lost two so far

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