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Subject: My 2 cents: It seems so many are having to cancel pageants. I think if you shouldn't tell a director you "want them to come this or that day" or "you'll be there" unless you seriously mean it. Of course things come up last minute but directors are sick of "taking a chance" and ordering awards in hopes they will get contestants because so many said they were for sure coming and then they don't and the directors lose big money. I know of 3 directors quiting right now and that is really sad. Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:03:14 11/14/11 Mon Replies: It is very difficult being a director in IL. 10 girls do not make the pageant. Typically it takes 20 to break even and money is too tight to 'hope' you get a good showing. I don't know why people don't understand you cannot have a quality pageant with nice prizes unless you have participation. No director wants to take a financial loss. Pageantry is a business! (NT) -- Anonymous, 10:28:59 11/14/11 Mon Since I don't ever plan to "make" anything of my pageants in the first place, I simply cant go in the hole and hope I make it up at the next one, or a Holiday / State pageant. Numbers have been going down for years and I have lowered my prices to reflect it, but it's not helping. My very first pageant 6 years ago was $250 and we had 28 girls. My most recent was $115 and I had 6. ~Miss Joyce (NT) -- Anonymous, 16:01:42 11/14/11 Mon So what's keeping people from doing pageants? It's most likely that there are TOO MANY. Sad, but true. Too many at the same time. Too many different systems! (NT) -- Anonymous, 16:14:11 11/14/11 Mon I think a large part of the problem is everyone is in financial hardship and pageants are a splurge for most. That is a hard thing to swallow after so many decades of overindulgence. I think there are girls who would love to compete but just can't afford it and they tell directors they would like them to come but don't think about budgeting money so they can. Directors are people too and can understand "I can't afford it now" or "that price is too high". Don't be to proud to tell them what price you would like to see a pageant at but also keep in mind you will have to recieve less awards... (NT) -- Anonymous, 17:56:49 11/14/11 Mon At one time earlier this year, we could have drove an hour one way 5 weekends in a row for pageants. These were all in the same general area. While we would have loved to done them all, I had to consider the financial aspect and limit how many we enter. (NT) -- Anonymous, 20:06:13 11/14/11 Mon I think the #1 reason is the economy. So many people out of work, or scared they might be in the future. #2 is traveling 4-5 hours with gas prices the way they are. #3 I think alot of the girls that competed alot a few years back have moved on to other things and just can't find the time for pageants anymore. (NT) -- Anonymous, 09:12:14 11/15/11 Tue I totally agree with you but contestant mothers need to stop telling directors the prices are fine and that they will come if they can not afford too. You would be shocked at how many over the years, for every pageant say "we'll be there" and then never follow through. (NT) -- Anonymous, 09:30:35 11/15/11 Tue As much as we wish we could attend all of the pageant, we cannot afford to pay hundreds of dollars for each one. I try to attend when i have spare money and the pageant is around $50. Praying that I could enter more when I catch up on my bills. (NT) -- Anonymous, 10:42:59 11/15/11 Tue My main thing is, I wish pageants that did charge a lot tried hard to give out quality prizes. Joyce was always good at that, and I know a lot of directors are. But I at least want to see crowns and trophies with plaques identifying what they are for and no signs of breaking. I could rather see a small but NICE tiara and trophy for the less expensive pageants. I guess I am saying quality over quantity and more creativity. And people should commit more if they say "I'll be there." I have changed my mind but only because my schedual got changed, but I feel bad for directors these days. (NT) -- Anonymous, 20:48:17 11/15/11 Tue I agree. We've backed off pageants quite a bit as we're tired of making the investment only to bring home trophies that don't indicate what they're for or are just totally blank and crowns with missing stones! Oh, and THEN there's the trophy that my daughter still has an empty spot on her shelf for that is "being sent!" That was in 2010! It just makes it hard to want to fork over the cash, spend the money on the outfits, travel expenses, etc to have my daughter come home with these kind of prizes! (NT) -- Anonymous, 11:45:53 11/16/11 Wed Why do people keep going to these crap pageants when everyone only has good things to say about directors like joyce and bridgette, but yet they both cant pull the kids to stay in business. why did everyone stop going and supporting our local directors? (NT) -- Anonymous, 15:27:40 11/16/11 Wed I agree...we should support local directors. I Think part of it is expense..people don't want to compete natural against glitz but glitz is sooo pricey. Also, some systems judge modeling and some don't. And the glitz modeling is not OUR thing but in... (NT) -- Anonymous, 15:49:53 11/16/11 Wed ...most systems it does better it seems. I wish it didnt feel like you needed to spend a fortune on modeling lessons, clothes, h&m, and pics to win. I wish the quality of the purchase was higher too. Glitz dresses are made like costumes and the pics.. (NT) -- Anonymous, 15:52:24 11/16/11 Wed ...only seem worth it if you can get the disk. 200 bucks for the shoot and h&m and you still pay almost 100 for an 8x10... Just too much. (NT) -- Anonymous, 15:54:07 11/16/11 Wed IMO - Pageants are a hobby. You wouldn't compete in ice skating without lessons? You wouldn't compete in a rodeo without taking riding lessons? Why would you think you can compete in pageants without investment in the tools required to compete? I agree glitz is expensive, but modeling, photos and clothes are the tools required to compete, even in natural. I don't want to seem discouraging, but this, like other hobbies, you need to make the investment both in time and finances. (NT) -- Anonymous, 18:19:56 11/16/11 Wed Yes. A HOBBY. Not a career. You will NEVER win your money back. Back in the day, moms made all the clothes and glitz photos were more like glamour shots. It has turned into a racket not a hobby. I want to see more systems offer natural only pageants... (NT) -- Anonymous, 18:43:43 11/16/11 Wed ..from time to time. And put more emphasis on poise, confidence, and beauty. even with glitz, dont judge clothes by design, but on fit and color for the girl. And really, the vendors charge way more than fair price for what isn't always great quality. (NT) -- Anonymous, 18:46:00 11/16/11 Wed I totally agree with you! You don't do well at dance or gymnastics, tennis, etc without lessons. My daughter works very hard on her modeling for pageants, and works with a coach. We know if you want to do well, you do need the modeling skills. We look for systems where it counts. It's part of pageants just like the pics and clothes! (NT) -- Anonymous, 04:33:00 11/17/11 Thu Here's a thought - How many would be interested in CC going natural next year? ~Miss Joyce (NT) -- Anonymous, 18:44:26 11/16/11 Wed Beauty, Casual Wear, Photo, & Talent? ~Miss Joyce (NT) -- Anonymous, 18:46:25 11/16/11 Wed The only reason we never did a CC pageant is because I don't want my "natural" girl competing against "glitz" girls. (NT) -- Anonymous, 20:35:44 11/16/11 Wed That sounds great. We have been wanting to try cc. We just seem to always have stuff going on the weekends you have scheduled. But I have heard so many nice things about cc and it would be a shame if you have to close down. (NT) -- Anonymous, 23:30:02 11/16/11 Wed Thats a great idea but the rules have to be spelled out to the detail....stones on a dress, no stones...big hair or no big hair....will points be deducted if a judge thinks a child is even semi-glitz?? We would definately love to do a natural pageant!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 14:58:24 11/18/11 Fri CC -- Anonymous, 07:15:38 11/17/11 Thu we love glitz, the only reason we did not sign up for pageant up north this weekend is because of cheer, we literally found out saturday what do our team preforms since the cheer event is a 2 day one. otherwise we would have gone and done full glitz...hp & pm (NT) -- Anonymous, 13:28:04 11/17/11 Thu It isn't that I don't agree with modeling being judged at all. But glitz and natural modeling are very different. You can be a very poised and talented model without glitz modeling, but when you do a pageant that is anything goes, you are taking a big chance doing natural modeling when glitz is flashier. Joyce, good to hear you might stick around. You are and have always been a great director. No one ever leaves your pageants disappointed. I am sorry that numbers have been hard to pull lately. Hopefully, things will improve. (NT) -- Anonymous, 07:35:13 11/17/11 Thu CI -- Anonymous, 07:46:19 11/17/11 Thu Thanks for the civil discussion. And I agree to disagree. To me, even in naturals, you need to have good, well fitting clothing, becoming in color, appropriate shoes and accessories. Good quality photogenics are a must for most pageants. It has nothing to do with glitz at all. c/i -- Anonymous, 10:05:19 11/17/11 Thu I feel like people are getting 'natural' mixed up with 'face pageant' where modeling is not scored. There are true face pageants out there where the judges are supposed to consider facial beauty only. But natural pageants still take into account modeling, clothing, etc. (NT) -- Anonymous, 14:18:42 11/17/11 Thu I get the diff between natural and face pageants. I just feel natural modeling style is sooo diff from glitz. I think clothing should be judge on fit and color but maybe not so much on whether it is a fabulous outfit by itself. The girl should be the... (NT) -- Anonymous, 16:27:22 11/17/11 Thu ...focal point, not the clothes. Also, good pics are a must. I do feel that some overcharge for them bc they can. Thank goodness we have a few great photographers right here in IL who offer very fair rates..and their pics are worth it. (NT) -- Anonymous, 16:29:37 11/17/11 Thu Thank you too. :) It is refreshing to be able to disagree without a full blown board fight. Lol! And really, I see your points. I think it can be a tough subject based on the different kinds of pageants available. I truely appreciate the insight. (NT) -- Anonymous, 16:32:39 11/17/11 Thu I'd like to see pageants have an age range of 0 - 15 years. I think the older girls should have their own pageants and not be competing against the younger girls. Especially when there is one ultimate supreme and one grand talent. (NT) -- Anonymous, 10:12:15 11/17/11 Thu im sorry to say, but i had a horrible experience at CC.. it was kaos the pageant moms and daughters were rude and mean, i overheard little girls telling other little girls they were ugly, and it was just an awful experience. thats why we havent done CC this year, maybe i should give it a second chance but first impressions last a long time..i would love to see pageants where you can win grand/ultimate and such with no pictures.. only stage events towards that would be awesome. we r still doing pageants but they all seem far away and take alot of money for travel so we have been very choosy (NT) -- Anonymous, 12:54:14 11/17/11 Thu The problem is people say they dont want pics in pageants, then a pageant like NOTY says no pics and it really does not change numbers. (NT) -- Anonymous, 13:06:57 11/17/11 Thu I dont think you should blame that on CC or Joyce. (NT) -- Anonymous, 11:47:57 11/18/11 Fri **PS i totally agree with the age suggestions, adult women with a lifetime of modeling should not be judged with toddlers and children... i would attend if the pageant was split with age groups. kids in morning teens in afternoon and divide grand prizes between two... i would most definatly go to those (NT) -- Anonymous, 12:57:31 11/17/11 Thu Miss Royalty International in Wisconsin is a new pageant that splits 4-12 and 13+ into two different pageants. No grand supremes, but there is not even any competing in the same pageant for young ones and older girls. http://www.missroyaltyinternational.com (NT) -- Anonymous, 11:46:28 11/19/11 Sat There are already so many natural pageants in the area - my daughter and I prefer semi-glitz - I like to make her outfits and she wears lots of sparkle even in her everyday clothes, so natural only is a bit of a turnoff for us. Especially if the natural outfits must be off the rack and cannot be custom. (NT) -- Anonymous, 13:22:37 11/17/11 Thu I'm with you. My dd loves to play dress up! That's part of the fun of pageants. (NT) -- Anonymous, 15:37:00 11/17/11 Thu My daughter does natural pageants and is always covered in "bling". Natural to us means no makeup- I cannot STAND putting makeup on my 10 year old. (Not against it at all, I just hate it! LOL) (NT) -- Anonymous, 18:39:32 11/17/11 Thu We like the semi glitz too! i love being able to make my daughter outfits. We have done natural pageants where no sequins or stones were alloed in the theme wear (system out of Kentucky). Semi glitz seems to fit us best. (NT) -- Anonymous, 19:32:51 11/17/11 Thu Same! My niece keeps begging to do a semi-glitz or glitz style pageant..I think it's the modeling style she prefers as well as getting her hair and make up done (NT) -- Anonymous, 23:22:11 11/22/11 Tue With My daughter being a teenager she doesnt want to go to pageants that are smaller and the age groups for the grands start in the younger division. The prizes are just not there to support the older girls. (NT) -- Anonymous, 12:04:24 11/19/11 Sat How old is your daughter? What is your idea of good prizes? (NT) -- Anonymous, 13:33:40 11/19/11 Sat Gift cards to someplace like Claires would be a great prize for older girls. There's a lot of variety spanning different ages too. (NT) -- Anonymous, 14:55:58 11/19/11 Sat Gift cards to Charming Charlies! Was just shopping there this afternoon. Totally cool place for big girls and little girls! (NT) -- Anonymous, 17:46:40 11/19/11 Sat LOVE Charming Charlies (NT) -- Anonymous, 22:16:26 11/19/11 Sat **I wasnt blaming CC or Joyyce.. just saying the whole experience was bad so havent been back.. and if those are the people who are chossing to do CC i dont want my daughter subjected to those ttpes of people.. sorry (NT) -- Anonymous, 20:42:45 11/19/11 Sat The perfect natural pageant to me c/i -- Anonymous, 05:58:42 12/22/11 Thu OMG this is perfect and sounds sooooooo much fun!!!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 13:08:47 12/22/11 Thu Perfect we will sign up! (NT) -- Anonymous, 17:15:18 12/22/11 Thu lol Thanks been looking for one like this for...well ever since I put my dd in her first pageant. c/i -- Anonymous, 05:55:34 12/23/11 Fri op again for got to say, if I had the time or money to start one like this, I do it. C/I -- Anonymous, 06:00:29 12/23/11 Fri http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.missroyaltyinternational.com%2F&h=qAQFx5laR (NT) -- Anonymous, 23:51:27 12/23/11 Fri http://www.missroyaltyinternational.com/ (NT) -- Anonymous, 23:52:27 12/23/11 Fri Thanks for info, but that is not near what I was taling about, or near 100.00 fee. (NT) -- Anonymous, 09:16:01 12/28/11 Wed APMiss has a all natural pageant for under $100 with no pageant dresses and strait runway modeling at nationals. Email Linda@apmiss.com or visit www.apmiss.com (NT) -- Anonymous, 12:42:29 12/28/11 Wed Sometimes quality costs a little more... Where is the $100 APMiss pageant? (NT) -- Anonymous, 21:28:24 12/28/11 Wed cost more not really, I remember paying around 1200.00 about 5 yrs back for gg and aue, only to see kids who won no title leave with lipgloss. So sorry but some directors will spend fee's back on the kids and many more don't. I have been to 100.00 prelims that gave more to the kids than the 599.00 pk directors will offer now days. Sorry but true. Quality is not the issue if your a director who gives nothing back to even be judged if it's a quality gift or not.lol (NT) -- Anonymous, 07:01:09 12/29/11 Thu Here another thing that I will never get, Mr. tim yeah he is good, but I could do a national without him too. He cause fee's to go up as well. Like I said before, cut out or down on the vendor crap and lets get back to "beauty pageants" (NT) -- Anonymous, 07:03:42 12/29/11 Thu Those types of pageants give big $$, crowns and prizes to the winners. That's where your entry fee goes if you arent one of the lucky ones to pull a great title. NOT EVERYONE CAN WIN at big nationals, like everyone expects around here. (NT) -- Anonymous, 14:32:23 12/29/11 Thu I pay darn near $500 for my daughter to do NAM every year and we don't win. There is only ONE winner in that pageant. And it's a QUALITY pageant. So, yes, it does cost more! Seems like a lot are asking for the world and expecting to pay $100 for it. Not going to happen! (NT) -- Anonymous, 16:07:42 12/29/11 Thu I'm not sure it's clear what you are talking about. If you want a $100 entry fee, and with pageants only having 20-30 entrants, you will get less titles, worse quality atmosphere and production, lower level prizes, etc. Click in -- Anonymous, 11:13:20 12/29/11 Thu I dont think pm's realize - If a ballroom costs me $500 and I'm charging $100 per contestant to enter, the first 5 entries pay my ballroom. Which means the next 5 only bring in $500 for crowns, sashes, prizes, parties, decorations etc. This is why directors cancel with less than 20 entered. (NT) -- Anonymous, 14:30:15 12/29/11 Thu don't even bother wasting your breath. We have been over and over this and there will always be people who do it for them and not their kids and those who always want something for nothing. Most are stubburn and no matter how much proof you have or sense you talk they just want to twist your worde and argue. (NT) -- Anonymous, 16:56:48 12/29/11 Thu Yeah dont even bother, trying to understand, not talking about your little local system that barely pulls 20. I am saying the big ones that do pull over 150 kids could give more. I know for a fact. Some of them clear 75,000 after their national is over. So yes they can afford to give more than lipgloss. Remember the big cash you talk about is half the bond. (NT) -- Anonymous, 21:54:28 12/29/11 Thu I agree on the really big systems. They rake it in for sure. They do this full time so they need to support themselves and I know a lot of work goes into organizing events for that many contestants, but ... they definitely go on their trips and cruises and live VERY well when all is said and done, so yes ... they could give a LOT more back to the contestants and winners, I agree. (NT) -- Anonymous, 00:43:33 12/30/11 Fri 500 for ballroom, where are u renting the hilton, i called several and you can get a good size room for a local pageant with 50 kids could nicely fit into for $50 half day or 100 all day. and they provide stage for little extra. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:29:56 12/30/11 Fri $500 is for a BALLROOM, not a conference room. We are talking quality. If you want a little conference room and some paper taped to the wall for a backdrop, hold a pageant in your basement and invite your friends over. Think Miss America. Miss USA. The "big girl" pageants that this is all supposed to be mimicking for the little ones. ONE winner. No "giving back" to everyone just because they entered. Why would you not want your child to participate in something really nice? If there is so much money to be made off of unsuspecting contestants, hold a pageant and find out for yourself. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:45:09 12/30/11 Fri ha not a conference room or a ballroom, hotels dont call them ballrooms only directors, this is a very nice room, if you want it bigger you pay a little more and they open up the petiton between the other half. No I dont need a 500 ballroom. And you can decorated anything to look nice, ha must be one of the directors who don't want change. But it's coming anyhow. (NT) -- Anonymous, 09:20:59 12/30/11 Fri Hotels don't call them ballrooms? Who are you calling, Motel 6 who doesn't have ballrooms? You can go on the website of any major hotel and look at their floor plan and they name their ballrooms with former presidents names or geographic names. But no, Motel 6 doesn't have ballrooms or call them ballrooms. (NT) -- Anonymous, 10:08:55 12/30/11 Fri no actually holiday inn, that type. You for sure must be one of the greedy directors. Or you would not be so angry. That others want to see the cost come down and more fun for kids, feel sad for you, do post your pageant, and will decide if ittop notch k? some also call them banquet room. whatever but 500 for a local prelim BS (NT) -- Anonymous, 10:56:24 12/30/11 Fri I pay over 8000 for my ballroom for a weekend for a national. For small theme pageants, I pay 500.00 You have to remember, that even if you get a room for 350 or 400, the taxes add up and usually ends up around 500 (NT) -- Anonymous, 12:06:27 12/30/11 Fri Local Prelim? That's BS. Do that crap in a library. I'm looking for State and NATIONAL pageants. Those are BALLROOMS. (NT) -- Anonymous, 12:45:32 12/30/11 Fri Sorry, my message is in regards to the poster ABOVE the one I wrote under. (NT) -- Anonymous, 12:46:32 12/30/11 Fri Click in for my take on things ... I think you will find it interesting... -- Anonymous, 20:39:42 12/29/11 Thu I completely agree. And while I'm all for everyone taking home a crown, 20 "titles" is not needed. If your DD wins, do you really want her to get the same things as 20 other people? What's "winning" then? (NT) -- Anonymous, 23:06:06 12/29/11 Thu c/i -- Anonymous, 06:23:43 12/30/11 Fri I think there are about 10 pageants out there that charge what you have outlined and that do what you have stated. 99% of the pageants out there have a lot lower fees than you outlined. And there are probably 10 out there that pull in 100 kids. If they do pull in that many, there is something drawing that many to their pageants. The rest of us are talking about the MAJORITY of pageants. The ones where 20-30 show up (or less). Click in -- Anonymous, 08:18:34 12/30/11 Fri *ooops, typo on the click-in .. I WOULDN'T argue with your logic.** (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:19:40 12/30/11 Fri c/i -- Anonymous, 09:15:32 12/30/11 Fri bty we won the ultimate there before we became closer to her, now we can't compete due to close friendship, but help her out:) (NT) -- Anonymous, 09:17:42 12/30/11 Fri So you have peaked my interest as we have lived in the south and competed for the last 10 years. I have never heard of a $40 pageant with a $1000 payout except for 1. She tried to make a go of it and got 10 kids b/c noone believed her. And, btw, all 10 kids were newbies. (NT) -- Anonymous, 09:53:33 12/30/11 Fri Calling your bluff. Name that pageant. (NT) -- Anonymous, 09:55:05 12/30/11 Fri They won't name that pageant because it would identify them as the "close friend" of the director. So basically, no way to prove it. Click in -- Anonymous, 10:06:35 12/30/11 Fri Ha ha your funny, it real and it been around for 5 yrs, I wont post it here due to there r some jealous directors, but she will be expanding to other states, as she continues to grow. stay tuned. And you will start to see more like it in future, as this economy continues. (NT) -- Anonymous, 11:01:41 12/30/11 Fri 5 years in IL? Never, ever, ever, heard of a $40 pageant system. (NT) -- Anonymous, 14:10:48 12/30/11 Fri No go back up and read again, another state not here yet. hth catch up. lol (NT) -- Anonymous, 19:56:11 12/30/11 Fri Funny how you can argue, but not name the system. You're a joke. (NT) -- Anonymous, 21:33:31 12/30/11 Fri Yes, it's been around 5 years since she tried a prelim in the south. I can picture her flyer but cant remember the name. I may still have the info buried in my emails somewhere. (NT) -- Anonymous, 12:03:49 12/30/11 Fri too funny....I havent seen a pageant like that in IL EVER......Sunburst is the only one that comes close and state is nothing like that mall prelim....and every director thinks every kids is adorable enough to go to state.... (NT) -- Anonymous, 15:00:41 12/30/11 Fri Wait, are you talking about Starz & Glitz? Advertised as a low cost or 'free' beauty, but then you need to enter all events to have a chance at the titles? (NT) -- Anonymous, 15:45:49 12/30/11 Fri I was just reading last week on another state board c/i -- Anonymous, 20:27:51 01/03/12 Tue Pageants -- Anonymous, 20:57:07 01/05/12 Thu

Subject: Illinois International Junior Miss Pageant 2012 Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:21:43 12/29/11 Thu The Illinois International Junior Miss Scholarship Program will be held March 23rd - 25th at the Hilton Rosemont/Chicago O'Hare. Compete in Introduction, Interview and Formal wear to qualify for the Illinois state title where you have the chance to win up to $2500 cash scholarship, along with a wonderful prize package. Also win cash scholarships by entering the optional competitions; Photogenic, talent, spokesmodel, casual wear and actress! Email: ILIJM@hotmail.com if you have any questions. or call (773) 372-6423 Be sure to check out our Illinois State Promo video http://youtu.be/2W4pbaCB3oA Compete in one of 6 age divisions: Jr. Princess 4-6 Princess 7-9 Preteen 10-12 Jr. Teen 13 - 15 Teen 16-18 Miss 19-24 Replies: does anyone know of this or who director is (NT) -- Anonymous, 21:58:15 12/30/11 Fri Tamera is the new director. She was hired under the national director. Tamera is one of the most outstanding young ladies in the industry. It will be a great pageant! (NT) -- Anonymous, 12:50:05 01/01/12 Sun

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Subject: 2nd Annual Miss & Mr. Merry Christmas Toys for Tots fundraiser Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:33:59 09/22/11 Thu Hello ladies and gents, we cordially invite you to join us for the 2011 Miss & Mr.. Merry Christmas Tots for Tots fundraiser pageant. The pageant will be held in Grayslake, IL on November 26th, 2011 with registration beginning at 9:30a.m. The cost to enter will be $15.00 with a $30.00 toy or monetary donation. If there is more than one family member entering than only one donation is needed. Every contestant will leave with no less than a beautiful crown, chance to visit with Santa and enjoy some hot chocolate and cookies! Last year we were able to raise just under $3000.00 for Toys for Tots and we hope to beat that total this year with your help. With lots of titles to award, only one outfit change and LOW entry fee this will be a pageant you won't want to miss so grab a friend or a few and join us for some fun! To receive your application please email: director@abproductions.org Sincerely, Bridgette King American Beauty Productions National office:847-740-8895 www.APMiss.com www.PageantElegance.com "Celebrating 8 years of fun, honest pageantry!" Replies: Help us to beat out almost $3000.00 donation from last year! (NT) -- Anonymous, 02:38:34 09/30/11 Fri . (NT) -- Anonymous, 13:33:06 10/16/11 Sun Yay!!! Maddy and Gianna are in for this one! Can't wait! (NT) -- Anonymous, 03:17:29 09/30/11 Fri Ladies don't forget there will ne a N. E. Illinois America's Prestigious Miss preliminary following this pageant! Applications are now ready. (NT) -- Anonymous, 23:14:53 10/03/11 Mon Be sure to get your application in to secure your spot today! (NT) -- Anonymous, 00:00:51 11/02/11 Wed Applications are now due. If you are planning to attend please get them turned in. At $15.oo to enter and everyone recieving a crown, a DJ, cookies, hot chocolate and Santa I am doing this pageant for free and can not afford to order awrds in hopes of who will attend. (NT) -- Anonymous, 16:14:22 11/07/11 Mon Is it too late to enter? (NT) -- Anonymous, 19:18:03 11/13/11 Sun yes (NT) -- Anonymous, 21:25:37 11/13/11 Sun It's been cancelled. (NT) -- Anonymous, 23:12:25 11/13/11 Sun Can anyone tell me why its been cancelled we filled out forms and stuff and emailed them in and never heard back. This was a while ago. (NT) -- Anonymous, 22:35:34 11/19/11 Sat She said she only had 4 entries- not enough to order awards for and hope more people would sign up. We planned to sign up as well and a friend of ours too. (NT) -- Anonymous, 02:20:04 11/20/11 Sun

Subject: Summer Shine Fundraising Pageant Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:17:16 11/18/11 Fri Summer Shine Enter our photo contest to win a free optional along with being featured on the website, program book & part of the Summer Shine calendar! Annual Fundraising Pageant Hilton Garden Inn St. Charles, Illinois July 21, 2012 All proceeds benefit Shriners Hospitals for Children Entry fee $165.00 – Entry Deadline JUNE 1, 2012 EARLY BIRD FEE $140.00 Age as of July 1 Little Miss(5-6 yrs) Young Miss( 7-9 yrs) Pre-Teen (10-12) Junior Teen (13-15) Teen (16-18) Miss (19-24) Ladies (25-34) Ms. (35–49) Classic (50 & above) Interview, Introduction & Formalwear Optionals: Casualwear Spokesmodel Essay Photogenic (up to a total of 4) Actress Talent Overall Divisional Awards: Best Hair Best Model Best Dress All contestants receive a small tiara* & gift bag. *Miss – Classic contestants have the choice between small tiara or pin/brooch. More information at: www.summershinepageant.webs.com DirectorBecky10@gmail.com

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Subject: Calling all queens Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:15:44 11/09/11 Wed AFFTER is seeking volunteers for a variety of positions and projects, most of which can be done remotely. VOLUNTERS WANTED FOR: Administrative help 1. Mailers 2. Correspondence 3. General office help Update brochures, Educational documents 1. Graphic design 2. Writing 3. Editing 4. Publishing Fundraiser – Hope Relay (SATURDAY, MARCH 10, 2011) 1. Advertising 2. Distribute flyers 3. Attend committee meeting(s) 4. Recruit event/corporate sponsors Networking – seek donations for AFFTER’s “wish-list” 1. Copy machine (high volume) 2. File cabinet/book case 3. Fax machine 4. Copy paper If you are interested in helping with any projects or positions listed, have suggestions or comments, please respond to this email and include: - Your contact information: name, phone number, email address - Location: City and state - Experience: List positions/projects interested in and related experience - Essay question: Why are you interested in volunteering for AFFTER?