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Subject: Re: Imperial fleet Vs Federation fleet


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capn hayes
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Date Posted: 07:27:33 09/30/02 Mon
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In reply to: The Divine Shadow 's message, "Re: Imperial fleet Vs Federation fleet" on 04:19:54 09/30/02 Mon
 >>I don't think warp strafing is possible in the sense
>>that the ships are capable of targeting ships
>>sub-light objects while traveling at velocites
>>significantly exceeding the speed of light, for two
>>main reasons. Reason one, based on the ranges given
>>for starship weapons in Star Trek they would close the
>>distance far to rapidly once an enemy ship was within
>>weapons range at even warp two (10c). Reason two the
>>known examples of warp strafing were in TOS, and while
>>I'm not saying it didn't happen, I will say that it
>>seems after careful speculation on the part of the
>>producers and creators of Star Trek they realized the
>>mistakes made 30+ years ago. Also realizing that the
>>scenes did not make technical sense. They changed the
>>rules so to speak. It wouldn't be the first time. They
>>have also redrawn the Warp scale which the now use on
>>TOS prequel series "ENTERPRISE". This now makes TOS
>>speeds like warp 11 and warp 14.1 inconsistent with
>>the rest of the Trek universe. While most of these
>>"little" in inconsistencies are explained away by die
>>hard fans of Star Trek with conjecture, they should be
>>over ruled by what has been established in [TNG] era
>>shows which as far as most are concerned have s
>>broader database that the orginal 79 episodes which
>>didn't have as sophisticated an audience as today.
>>Besides the common sense aspect that it would
>>virtually impossiple at even warp factor 2, to target
>>a torpedo with only .28 seconds to lock on and fire!
>>Phasers if it were even feesable to propagate a phaser
>>stream beyond the ships warp field. Which would seem
>>to suffer the same difficulties as a transporter
>>stream. This would explain why warp combat can occur
>>between two or more ships at the same warp velocity,
>>and they can even fire phasers at each other with no
>>dificulties. But firing at a sublight target even
>>without the problems mentioned above, at a mere warp 2
>>with phasers you'd have a tenth of a second once your
>>in range to target and fire, fugeddaboutit!
>
>Is that a vote for Wars?
>
>I think the Soveriegn is going to have truble with
>ISD, even if it manages to get warp strafing to work
>on a sublight target.
Of course I'm voting for Wars!!!!!!!!! I was simply trying to point out why I don't think Warp strafing as discribed by rabid trekies, as being able to attack sublight ships while they are at warp. Although this may have been shown in TOS episodes, and I won't disagree with that fact. I will argue that the examples shown were unrealistic to the least, and later The shows creators having the hind sight to realize this mistake don't use it anymore! Idiot's who don't understand this concept will of course argue the point with conjecture and the rules of this debate forum, which states as long as it was onscreen IT DID HAPPEN! But we argue the since it ONLY HAPPENED in TOS things like warp strafing can only occur in TOS settings.
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