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Subject: Now you're thinking - Ipatas!!!


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Chicko
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Date Posted: Tue, Dec 11 2007, 09:38:34am

Ipatas ends school fee subsid
By PETER PIA
Enga provincial government will not subsidise school fees for Engans students attending various educational institutions in the province and also throughout the country starting next year.
Governor Peter Ipatas, who initiated the subsidy programme some 10 years ago, announced this last Friday in Wabag.
Mr Ipatas said that parents would meet the school fees of their kids attending elementary to universities starting next year.
He told parents and students at Pausa Secondary School Grade 12 pioneer graduation last Friday that many parents were becoming lazy and were not doing anything that was worthwhile to support their children to get better education.
He said that his government had changed its policy to give parents the responsibility to meet their children’s school fees.
Governor Ipatas said he wanted the parents to feel the pain of caring for their own children so that children would prioritise their studies.
“You (parents) have been relaxing in the past 10 years because I cared for your children’s education, so this time I am giving back the responsibility,” he said.
Mr Ipatas said funds allocated for subsidies would instead be used to fund infrastructural projects that included classrooms, teachers’ houses and other needy educational projects.

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[> Subject: Re: Now you're thinking - Ipatas!!! Parents pay school fees


Author:
Engan Lenge
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Date Posted: Tue, Dec 11 2007, 09:18:10pm

I see paying school fees for children and the young generation of Enga by the Prov Govt as an important investment for the future of the province. To me, only formal education will change all social issues in Enga. If there is any service the Prov Govt should prioritise to combat tribal fight and AIDS/HIV, then it should still be education.
I don't think it is a good idea to do away with it completely, come up with provincial scholarship whereby tertitary institution and secondary school should compete on. To say, all students with grades of above 'B' gets a scholarship, or top 10 students going into secondary schools should get scholarships. Be genuine about human resource investment and come up with strategises to support the students to work hard.
There is much to do in regard to universal education in Enga, I believe the Prov Govt should get great ownership of such policies and ensure all school age children go to school in Enga. And such fee supports should be continued up to secondary school levels where parents should take part of the responsibility.

Finally, I see every political leaders who take ownership of the human resource and invest in them are seen to be visionaries. Our Good Governor has been one of them who has stand through hard economic times in maintaining that vision and he is highly commented. Moreover, other provincial governors have seen the benefit of such investment and they have followed suit. I suggest the Pro Govt revisit the policy and do something in line with what Sir J. Chan is doing for his province. Please, don't just stop this important investment.

Engan Lenge.

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[> Subject: Re: Now you're thinking - Ipatas!!!


Author:
Engan Lenge
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Date Posted: Tue, Dec 11 2007, 09:38:11pm

Moreover parents in developed countries like UK and Australia today do not pay a single fee as 'school fee' from Reception to Secondary school. The parents of these countries have the employment and the money to pay their childrens' school fees but they don't.
Though village engans could be lazy, most do not have a sustainable source of income where they can continue to generate revenue. That is why such projects like Pyrethrum development for Lagaip Pogera by the elected MP is important. Introduce projects for the people to earn revenue before the Prov Govt pass some of the responsibility to the parents.

These are just my thoughts, but I think we should always give a second thought when we talk about human resource development.

Engan Lenge.

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[> Subject: Re: Now you're thinking - Ipatas!!!


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61
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 12 2007, 04:46:17am

Well said Engan Lenge.

I see eye to eye with you on this issue. As a former beneficiary I believe this policy of Ipatas Admnistration must continue. It is the only policy of the Ipatas Administration that has been effective and has helped Enga's human resource for the last 10 years.

Apart from the Porgera gold mine Enga is a resource poor province. We do not have coffee, cocoa or copra etc that parents can work to earn income that will enable them to meet the fees. Further for the last 10 years the Ipatas administration has not done enough to Enga's economy so that the people can have available income earnings means where they can participate in.

By cancelling the policy now Peter Ipatas will set back human resource development and education in Enga by decades. Parents across Enga will find it difficult to pay the excessive fees in all institutions hence we will have many kids running around getting involved in all kinds of criminal activities. This will cause more societal problems for the province.

Lastly, the reason that Enga people will be lazy is very shallow. Enga is a tough province and Engans know what hard work is. They have been living it for generations by cultivating their gardens on tough terrains and these attitude as been passed on from generations to generations. I don't think people back home are lazy. All the Ipatas administration needs to do is improve on this policy and have something in it that includes or involves parents back home. For instance make it compulsory for parents to participate activey in helping to build classrooms etc..

The last 10 years investment in HR development by the provincial government has put Enga ahead of other provinces. When these batch of Kids start working they will bring Enga's status up. Education is the only thing that will make the best resource (human resources) of all resources productive and leads to ultimately to development and well being of peoples.

61

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[> Subject: Re: Now you're thinking - Ipatas!!!


Author:
richard
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 12 2007, 11:16:34am

Well said 61 and Engan Lenge.

However, I would like to frankly stress likely reasons, though may sound political, that I thing might add values to the cancellation of the policy. These reasoning are based on experiences and the scope of argument will be on University Scenarios.

1. The university students are the most smart arses around virtually talking 'empty dumpty bigs". Since the years I have attended university, only 30% to 45% appreciated such an effort put in by the EPG. The others saw as a windfall to have plenty beer. Hope everyone agrees on this! Most said, "em no money blo em...”well, that might literally sound substantial, but in practical it is not. Only people with guts can make things happen.

2. Graduates are sponsoring tribesman with weapons (rifles) in tribal conflicts, either directly or indirectly. And us graduates are the most critics of the government of the day, especially on its weaknesses without contributing effectively by suggesting constructive and well structured ideas and make it work through. If one cannot get through to put his ideas into reality, I guess you have contacts with the political cronies to push forward such. It will only be proper for EPG to continue funding/implementing the policy only if graduates and students don't become harsh critics.

3. Not all university students are engan students benefiting from this policy. There are some other Tom Dick and Harries names included. What do you want? Wrong blo mipla yet. The excess funds are not acquainted properly. I know, I was exchanging punches with a club president and his treasurer when juniors from my village and electorates' names were removed and replaced by ghosts names. I tell you, i lodged a complain and the following year, the amount was less.

4. 95% of the Students become lazy and roam the streets of Wabag town, hagen town, Pogera, POM and Lae literally doing nothing during there vacation. They supposed to go back and help their parents do the damn dirty jobs. They can't go home and toil the land when they know that EPG is paying for the fee!

On this note, I would suggest and have suggested on many oaccasions through my letters in the media using pen names that a Fully Subsidized Education Policy or HR policy is not needed for the betterment of enga. It should be a 50 - 50 responsibility for the gov't and the parents and kids ourself. A top 5 or 10 students full scholarship is also a great idea suggested by Engan Lenge.

I agree with Ipatas' statement the "parents are becoming Lazy". I don't need to explain, you have to go home and hear and see what is happening back home. But a correction on his wordings, it should be "OUR" children and not "YOUR" children. This contradicts his vision of the HR policy.

We know that no major/impact economical projects have been established were the people can actively participate to generate enough income earnings. If he was serious with his HR policy, he should have looked at bringing back graduates into the province through innovative brainstorming establishment of vital economic projects. Sadly, this essential catalyst to development of ENGA as been overlooked or neglected.

Anyway, thanks Governor, this will open the eyes of the critics and lazy people to think twice as hard as to look for avenues to earn their education. Now, I predict that critics rate at universities will increase to 98% without genuine reasoning and will make all kinds of assumptions and eventually will attack him on his personal life through media.

Sometimes its good to sit back and review then to jump on a running trailer!

Richard

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[> Subject: Re: Now you're thinking - Ipatas!!!


Author:
Enga Ombudsman
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 12 2007, 01:02:26pm

Richard made some good points but I have to make some corrections for him to think again.

1. Enga governor has only paid K1000. for all students in the tertiary insitutions around the country. HEre in UPNG, school fee for a self sponsor student is K5000 and the std pays the K4000 himself. An HECAS fee is K2255. The EPG pays K1000 and we pay the other K1255.
The AES fee is K1125 and we only pay K125. But most stds fall under HECAS and Self sponsor. you work it out.

2. On your second paoint, you have insulted the freedom to expression which is sated in the constitution. Why do you want the graduates to shut thier guts on national issues. come on..we are Engans ...Big Engans. We have to express our feelings.

And finally you must know that Some of us really comes from the very remote areas like Maramuni, paiela, HEwa, Yangis and etc where we see the EPG as our only hope.

Richard, if you have visited Enga recently, there is a clear sign of poverty....even people living below poverty level. Enga Economy is made up of Bettle Nut, Smoke, Beer Clubs, Container Stores, SecondHAnd clothes and sipsip parali market.
There was no money in our people's pockets. there was even no pigs to sell, tribal fifghts everywhere, no markets to sell our goods.
We really need EPG to pay some of our fees, not all but K1000 or K500 as usual.

thanks

Enga Ombudsman

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[> [> Subject: Next time, accept corrections, Uni Schoolboy!


Author:
KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 12 2007, 04:58:57pm

UPNG Enga Schoolboy

You have been corrected by me THRICE on this forum before blowing the matter out of proportion by resorting to the media. As the self-proclaimed uni student you are, you should have accepted that the correction and rationale coming from me was legitimate as I am bound by blood to the MP you attempted to defame in the media. I even communicate with him regularly via Parliamentary e-mails and phone. But no, you stubbornly resorted to the media to vent your frustrations. The two local newspapers have been known to unprofessionally report whole unsubstantiated stories, and wouldn't you think it would be easier to misquote or misrepresent a mere number (K5000) rather than a whole story?!!

Mature and educated people should simply try to use the God-given common sense bestowed upon them. Besides that, you do not hold a professional ombudsman license to require a response from an elected representative of Parliament. Thus being a simple schoolboy you should at least see eye to eye with me, the son of the MP. How can you ever be an ombudsman or mature citizen if you cannot accept simple and authorized corrections?!

Not surprisingly, you have portrayed yourself to be an IMBECILE, with an IQ no better than a stubborn 3 year old baby, rather than one who openly seeks justice and truth. What is the difference between me publishing the facts compared to the MP's own executive officer? Didn't you understand the plain English laid out before you?! I have been in universities longer than you and I know when to accept authentic information coming from viable sources. You unfortunately cannot discern what is authentic or not, nor maybe, right or wrong!

Well, I must say you have made a laughingstock of yourself and your peers at UPNG, before this Forum and the nation. And you have been justly rebuked might I add. I wonder what those students whom you needlessly listed in the newspaper think of you now? (I know some of them personally and I'm sure you won't be getting any moral support.) If you are so serious about combating social issues such as HIV/AIDS and tribal warfare, I would suggest you start with your own backyard. Preach to your tribes and communities and put a personally concerted effort to attract political and public attention. I'm sure your HIV/AIDS certified students hail from areas throughout the province so you can return to your respective towns and villages for the holidays to preach the message with a notebook in hand. You do not need to talk about money all the time! Engan MPs have their own policies and plans on how to curb the social issues inflicting their electorates and province, and they can simply overlook you without a care in the world. And believe me, after your unnecessary mumbling in the papers, I must say you have done more harm than good for your student body's cause. I know firsthand that Polye, Kikala, Kaeok, Pundari and Ipatas have resolved NOT to entertain you students. Neither will you be recieving school fee subsidies next year (2008) apparently so keep striving in school and for your schoolboy's campaign initiative! I commend you for that!

As for me, I will focus on the issues at an electoral level through the Office of the Lagaip-Porgera MP.

KLagaipT3
12.12.2007

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[> Subject: Re: Now you're thinking - Ipatas!!!


Author:
Engan Wanaku
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Date Posted: Thu, Dec 13 2007, 01:36:03pm

It is really sad to see EPG has planned to scrap off school fees from 2008, and also the the timing of the announcement is not right for the bulk of the parents. As Matthew Arek stated in his statement, "...parents will have to start working to raise school fees in the coming holidays...." to me is a joke. Matthew, you must realise your regular fee paying student is the son or daughter of a regular villager, not a REGULAR SALARY/WAGE EARNER like youself or your EPG counterparts, and realistically a villager WILL NOT COME UP WITH A BASIC SCHOOL FEE AT THE CURRENT LEVEL IN 2 to to 3 MONTHS!.
And next, what do you know about Planning all of you working in EPG, or anywhere else in PNG for that matter? Announcing news like this in the media in a very short time frame IS A BOMBSHELL DROPPED IN FRONT OF PARENTS (you die or live), and Engan elites like myself feel so embarrassed to realise there is so much heartlessness and arrogance shown by our leaders and wonder what has happened to the world. And it does not reflect any good governance and planning at all, if there is any. Planning properly the resources you have at hand, which includes your future leaders, the students, and not just the money you greeedily wait upon for every opportunity to tap into from all possible sources and FILL YOUYR BELLIES AND PURSES before it goes out into the public ('the leaking tap' analoque) reflects EXTREMELY POOR LEADERSHIP.
Why not reflect and think of yourselves in your own parents' shoes not long ago????? If you were born and educated in the colonial era, you wouldn't understand because everything was given to you, but the younger generation of parents like myself do understand what simple village people are feeling at this time.

Just sharing my thoughts of frustration on ongoing issues.

I am an Engan Wanaku living Overseas but so much in love with Enga it breaks my heart every time Enga is mentioned negatively!. Come on Enga, we can do better than this for all the GOD GIVEN TALENTS WE HAVE!!!!!!!!


Engan Wanaku

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[> Subject: Re: Now you're thinking - Ipatas!!!


Author:
TapuMalo
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Date Posted: Thu, Dec 13 2007, 07:41:58pm

I think the decision by Hon. Governor Peter Ipatas boils down to revenge for failing miserably in the 2007 elections. He was lucky to have won his seat but all his men ( People's Party Candidates) lost and he is frustrated with this and is taking on the people. That's very childish of him but he is a man who is known for his ability to make peace with political arch rivals (eg, Pundari and Somare) so let's just wait and see. 2008 academic year hasn't started, he might change his mind.
By now he has waken up and have actually seen his standing with the general Enga population.

Overall, I condemn his decision and brand it childish but that then he has the right to govern.

Merry Xmas

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[> Subject: Re: Now you're thinking - Ipatas!!!


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please reconsider - wanekole
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Date Posted: Thu, Dec 20 2007, 08:37:07am

Hi Richard, I gues you are one close technical adviser or so ,because it all falls your way and the gossips I have heard in the streets of POM, some of your reasons outlined were mentioned. So who ever Richard you are, please tell our Ipatas to reconsider the old system. The top 5% and poor can be fully subsidised but for us the others, the old system is of great help.

Up to you Richard!!

wanekole
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Subsidies only for top 5% and poor Engans

WITH school fee subsidy now scrapped in Enga, only the top performing students will continue to enjoy this benefit from the provincial government under a new scheme announced by Governor Peter Ipatas.
He said only Enga’s under-privileged children including orphans and the top 5% of students will continue to receive education subsidies.
Governor Ipatas said the focus now was to provide quality education including the recruitment of overseas teachers, computer labs for schools and libraries.
He also appealed to the Enga people not to touch properties during tribal fights which would now be the main focus of the province.
“Tribal fights are not new and because of inaction by police, we have lost schools. Now we have a new police management team including a new provincial police commander and station commander, we will focus our attention on law and order.”
He explained that Enga had spent K68 million in the last 10 years for education subsidies because Porgera Joint Venture came on stream and there was a lot of money to be shared by people.
Mr Ipatas said there was not much opportunity and with the pyrethrum and coffee factories now in place, it was time parents work the land to educate their children.
He would consider school fee subsidies in later years.

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