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Subject: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Impressed
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Date Posted: Tue, Mar 27 2007, 12:26:16pm


The one-hour documentary titled "Enga 1996 - 2006" that was presented last night on EMTV at 8pm - 9pm was interesting to watch.

The achievements and developments that took place under Peter Ipatas' reign as Governor for the province for the 10-year period was captured and presented brilliantly by John Egins.

Despite the many complains that abound against Ipatas, it was a great opportunity to see the documentary of a progressive leader who appears to have accomplished much during his reign.

I wasn't able to get the address of where copies of the documentary in DVD format can be obtained. If anyone has the address, please post it here, as I would like to grab a copy.

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[> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Petrus Paeo
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Date Posted: Tue, Mar 27 2007, 04:01:33pm

A clear indication of Mr. Ipatas buying and using the media to gain popularity. I mean, any fool can easily be carried away by this, rather then looking at the reality. No doubt Mr. Ipatas had done so much for the school fees for the Engan children. Free Education is his weapon and that is his only weapon. Maybe the Green house or the so called Ipatas Centre is another project that he puts up, which indeed holds the identity of Engan legislature, although it is filled with his cronies,teaboys and grade school leavers, surely no place for those whom he had paid the school fees for, maybe one or two are there.

What John Eggins failed to present is the reality of Enga, the destruction of Rakamanda SDA station, the destruction of the radio transmitter station, the endless tribal fights, the stopping of teachers receiving their pays only because they did not vote for Ipatas in 2002; the deteriorating of feeder roads in Enga and the list goes on and oh yes, I forgot, the many young girls having junior Ipatas at every corners of Enga. How could someone paint my Enga with something beautiful while I am still weeping for Enga?

How could John Eggins be blinded by this reality we face now? This is a clear indication of bribery to have the media to be one sided, while in media ethics they should not create bias with the element they feature. I can smell fishy going on with the media and governor.

I am impressed with the good things being presented but I will be contented and satisfied when the negative side created by the Ipatas regime is also presented by people like John Eggins. I am not yet impress. Ipatas is desperate now that the priest will take him out.

Petrus Paeo
Ambum

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
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Date Posted: Tue, Mar 27 2007, 04:15:59pm

The scenes presented on the documentary was HARD FACTS. They represent the figure prints of Ipatas.

Surely Peter Ipatas didn't tell people to get into fights and start destructing properties and other infrastructure.
The people themselves took them upon themselves and are suffering the consequences of their muscle flexing.

The young ladies are themselves to blame too if they're running after money. They need to put their butts at home and ignore inducements from anyone they see is not worth them.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Petrus Paeo (Weak)
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Date Posted: Tue, Mar 27 2007, 08:11:35pm

Sorry mate, your HARD FACTS do not represents what Enga is today. Be realistic. Surely, Ipatas did not tell the people to right or young girls to put their buts at home. I would rather say, your argument is 10 years old. You are back in the 70s and 80s or even 90s. Be real, what can you say 'bout the deterioratie stage in Enga?

P. Paeo

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Peace
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 28 2007, 06:25:10am

Petrus,
Good points. Yes, Honourable Ipatas is a good man for investing on human resource development, but basic essential social services are underpinning Enga. These essential services are being compromise with Education subsidy.

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[> Subject: Ipatas told me what to say


Author:
Sari Songster (tra lala)
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Date Posted: Tue, Mar 27 2007, 10:50:33pm

He told me what to say
and I said it
tra lala
but whenever I want to sing it
tra lala
Peter goes away

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[> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
anon
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Date Posted: Fri, Mar 30 2007, 11:11:59am

sari songster yu go holim post bilong ipatas!

anon

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
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Date Posted: Fri, Mar 30 2007, 01:38:26pm

Weekend Edition Fri - Sun 30th March - 01st April , 2007



Well done Mr Ipatas

I am a Western Highlander from Minj who is fascinated by what the “Action Governor” for Enga is doing.
Mr Peter Ipatas has done for his province over the last 10 years he has been their Member of Parliament as telecast on EMTV this Monday night.
With the election just around the corner it would only be appropriate if all the other members of Parliament could do a similar telecast on EMTV of what they have done for their province or the electorate over the times they have been members.
We the simple people of PNG, who all you MPs represent in Parlia-ment, want to see such overviews of your achievements and not verbal comments without basis at this crucial time of election.


– Richard
Taurama Barracks


http://www.postcourier.com.pg/20070330/frhome.htm

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[> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
n
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Date Posted: Mon, Apr 02 2007, 11:42:44am


viewpoints Monday 02nd April , 2007


Why do you criticise your Governor?

IT is disappointing to hear Laeyapo Kamakae of the National Capital District describing Peter Ipatas on his infrastructure developments and free education policy in Enga dated March 23 in View Point Section of the Post-Courier.
We as the brother province of Chimbu have recognised the potential and tremendous initiatives and developmental work in Enga. Moreover, the Engans are now moving in and dominating all the tertiary institutions in the country.
This is because of the great vision of Mr Ipatas whose long term aim is to build the human resource base for the Enga Province and Papua New Guinea as a whole.
I really commend his good work. For Mr Kanakae, you must be an off-cut or outcast from Enga and “tu yu mas raun long Moresby na tok tok tasol.”
If other provinces can commend your Governor’s good work, I don’t know why Engans want to oppose him.

– William Bongre
Maina V/C – Simbu
Mt Wilhelm Granite



http://www.postcourier.com.pg/20070402/mohome.htm

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Lindita Minilam - LAGAIP HEADWATERS
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Date Posted: Mon, Apr 02 2007, 08:42:06pm

Brothers from Simbu, Minj and PNG,

Don't worry about this idiot minorities who are criticising Peter Ipatas. They haven't done anything themselves for Enga province. They are little insignificant cowards who sit on there bums and open their mouths like old women. They will never contribute anything to Enga in their pathetic little lives. Not even their candidates has ever done anything to Enga like what Peter Ipatas has done over the last 10 or 11 years. Peter has significantly helped Enga in terms of Human Reasources Development and that alone defeats any other policies of past Engan politicians. That is not to undermine other areas his administration has also pursued during his term.

Of course he is guilty of things that we all know but atleast he should be accorded due respect for what his administration has done to date. Credit should be given where credit is due!

I personally believed Peter Ipatas should not be returned to power again after the GE but in the same note I am ready to applause his administration for what they have done so far. If anything, the new government should build on from where he left of today.

So easy liklik long criticisim em tumas na make the right choice this election. If Enga makes a wrong choice it will go back to the time of the HOPELESSNESS like Tindiwi, Jeffrey Balakau and Paul Torato era to name a few. A time where Enga has never seen a slightest development until Peter Ipatas took over.

Lindita
Minilam
LAGAIP HEAD WATERS

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Timin Mad Max
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Date Posted: Tue, Apr 03 2007, 11:22:35pm

I can see some valid points made by engans and ousiders (highlanders).For those who think the Governor should or should not get back in the GE,view these points I'm making and they are my personal observations and collective views from friends.
1/ How do you find a good leader and what constitutes a good leader? without knowing the person personally,what are some of the portraits and attributes that a leader must exhibit?
2/ Should there be some testing system for leaders,without having to flash their gold and silver,purely some form of a pre-selection where they must meet certain stringent criteria to qualify them thru the pre-selection?
3/ When new names enter Politics,how would anyone know that, this person is a quality leader or pre-requisites of the ideal leader that we want to see?

The following is my ideals for a leader in order of importance in todays world;
1/ Minimum of Degree qualification.
2/ Wealth of experience with the public or private sector with a minimum of 10 years.
3/ Has some involvement in community services whether it be commercially or in volunteer capacity in the name of good will.
4/ No criminal or civil case tried against him.
5/ Must be a very strong family man without scandals.
6/ Must display some from of wisdom and lateral thinking.
7/ Adequately exposed to the issues of the region and how other foreigns policies of the developed affect us.
8/ Must vow to declare their personal wealth and any business turnovers declared to the Ombudsman Commission for purposes of monitering public funds diversion and kick-back activities.
9/Must have very good interpersonal and people skills to be able to understand differing personality and character.
10/ Must have good money managent skills.
11/ Very honest,upright and aggresively passionate about his beliefs and ideas and be able to plan and implement these ideas.
12/ Must vow to say NO to bribery.

I hope you guys get the picture.... you could also add to the list if you like.

Cheers!

Mad Max....

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[> [> [> Subject: what about the rest of the community?


Author:
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Date Posted: Thu, Apr 05 2007, 11:51:33am

Fantastic that Peter Ipatas invests in the development of human resources now and in the future. He is a smart person to have purchased property around POM, rental to be used now and in the future for students fees.

But, what about the rest of the community?, what is he doing for mums, dads, kids, and young adults that have not had the opportunity to go to primary school or high school. How is Peter Ipatas making life better for this section of the community?

What is he doing for the young adults that roam endlessly around the towns, villages daily with nothing to do and with little opportunity to improve themselves and no source of income?

The Provincial building is a impressive looking building, but is there a equally impressive hospital? is the hospital well equipped with medicine, x-ray machines, beds and human resources? Are there plenty of health clinics around the Province?

Maybe someone can answer

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
apulin ul tange-tange kalyo
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Date Posted: Mon, May 21 2007, 12:33:14pm

Ipatas is simply the best enga can ever produce to this nation.
We must know that developmnet is a very recent event in enga. Develpment was first brought to enga by missionaries in the 60s and it become a full-swing event when ipatas is in power.
more importanly the human resource development which is vital for any country to grow is ipatas's no. 1 priority.
i'm a kanaka and i'm where i'm coz of ipatas put up the free education policy.
Plis bai yupela changim sampla taim...larim em peim skul fee pasim na development future elites of this country.

Lindita Akulam
Apulin Tange Kalyo-

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[> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


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Lindita Minilam - Lagaip Head Waters
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Date Posted: Wed, Apr 04 2007, 05:44:40am

Timin Mad Max,

I agree, we should have in mind this criteria when we select a new Governor this GE. Of course, human as we all are, candidates will have their own shortcomings but we should elect someone who atleast have a few of these characteristics.

Lindita
Minilam
Lagaip Head Waters

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Mad Max
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Date Posted: Thu, Apr 05 2007, 08:37:29am

Thanks Lindita,
I think we should have all Engan intellectuals use this forum so that current issues can be addressed, such as this.I think I will write to the Forum Administrator and make a donation to enable him to do a bit of marketing on the newspapers & whatever marketing tools necessary. I live in Australia and I enjoy this forum very much,some of the issues addresed are high quality stuff.

Gudonya guys................Mad Max

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[> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Gia Man (what a load of pekpek)
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Date Posted: Thu, Apr 12 2007, 01:04:03pm

If you are not intelligent enough to see through the smoke then you basicaly get what you vote for. Some people will never see past the ends of their own nose and look through rose coloured glasses. Ipatas for Enga if they want him but not for PM.

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Date Posted: Thu, Apr 12 2007, 04:53:32pm

Ipatas would make a better PM than Somare.
Ipatas uses his initiative, is creative, visionary and is so much of a DOER than a talker

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[> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Ipatas Fan
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Date Posted: Mon, May 21 2007, 01:58:10pm

Ipatas has done and is able to do better than many.
Ipatas would fare better than Sir Rabbie Namaliu, Sir Michael Somare, Bill Skate, Pais Wingti and Sir Julias Chan to some extend.

People must never be narrow minded in their judgment to think that the tribal fights problems at home are his responsibilities. The fights can wreck havoc to public infrastructure, economic and social well being of our people are caused by educated people sponsoring their tribesmen with guns. It is none of Peter Ipatas' doing. He is not sponsoring the fights. Others are so naive to cause all these and blame it upon someone else.

Ipatas has the making of PM in his blood. Give him the support.

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[> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Cool_Guy1
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Date Posted: Mon, May 21 2007, 02:44:46pm

Facts to think of when making comments.

1. Ipatas took over office When Porgera Gold Mine was paying dividends and royalties to the provinvial Government. Others like Paul Torato, Jeffrey and Malipu Balakau, Danley Tindiwi, etc.. were all operating on National Government Budget allocations only. Ipatas now is cutting a huge pie (National Budget allocations plus Royalty and Dividend payouts)than those others. So, you cant compare developments that are taking place now with what has happened in the past. When you do, it is like comparing apples and oranges.

2. Free education policy was originally suggested by Mr. Malipu Balakau, but never saw it to fruition because at that time he did not have the money and his life was taken at the earlier stage of his political career. But gratitude should go to him and the likes of Paula Torato for setting the framework for the mining agreement, which has resulted in the windfall enjoyed by the Ipatas Government, for him to pump it into education. I salute Ipatas for taking ownership of the free education policy and seeing it through, however, what we see at the green-house is a reflection of the outcome would be after graduation for many Engans than, this policy has no vision. Why do i say that? Take a look at the Green-house, jobs are not shared equally among Engans, only one disrict or electorate dominates the Green-House. If that is what is promoted in Enga, would be Engan who have a heart for their province would always be pushed out of Enga and contribute merely by mouth only.

3. Tribal fight reflects leadership. I refute the claim that, it is not Ipatas' doing. When you as a leader is there and providing true leadership, people have high respect for you, and surely they will listen. But if you dont provide good leadership and run around in a dark-class car to protect yourself, you are not in touch with the people, and the people dont have any respect for you, and for that matter wont listen to you when you try to become a peace mediator. Since when was the last time, the governor became a peace mediator, because basically, providing leadership is being there for your people in good and bad times. So you see, your analysis of Ipatas not causing the problem is narrow minded.. a leader is a leader and he needs to be with his people no matter what the situation is. Ignorant leaders will always blame their people, while concerned leaders will always take on the responsibility and try to become a peace mediator. He surely will be sucessful in mediating between two conflicting tribes only when he has the respect as a leader from both conflicting parties. Chaos and burning down and civil unrest are a reflection of leadership problems. There are other ways to solve problems, than to engage police only for mediation. Leaders of the province can play a very important role in mediating between two warring clans, only if leaders can provide that leadership and gain the respect of the people. An example can be given. There was a German priest who lived in Laiagam. When there was a big tribal fight between two tribes, he stood up in the middle of the tribal fight and told them to kill him. Both warring tribes held back their bows and arrows and stopped the tribal fight because, the priest was definitely in their way and he would be killed by cross-fire. He was a true leader, he had the respect from both tribes, and when he stood in, both tribes stopped the fight and made peace. That is what leadership is all about.

4. What have we done to the rest of the population in the province? Only school students can stand tall and enjoy themselves, while the rest of the population does not have anything else to chew on. Too much politics was involved in the pyrethrum project and it never got off the road until just recently. People need to fall back to a income generating cash crop to generate local level income. Porgera Gold mine has brought in substantial amount of money into the province, and it should be channeled into fruitful investments in cash crops etc. For instance, coffee in the province has been on the down-trend, what is the reason? Village based income generating cash crops are the only way to make our people survive. Virtually, cash crop growing by small holders in the province is non-existent. Have we (Provincial Governement) promoted such a venture? yes investing in real estates in Port Moresby for the future children is a way to go, but, how sustainable is it for the provincial government to pay school fees for infinity? That sure sounds unrealistic isnt it? There is a saying, you dont catch fish for a man, you show the man how to catch fish and he will never be a burden to you. He will know the techniques to catch fish, just teach him that. We can not be continuelly spoon-fed by the provincial government on school fees, all the provincial government needs to do is channel capital into projects such as pyrethrum, coffee, garlic, cabbage, carrot etc.. to get into full cash crop production and market this produces for the people of Enga. This will generate more income and spill-over would be far-reaching than to invest in real estates, that wont have the same sort of impact.

This are my views...

Cool_Guy1

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Enga at heart
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Date Posted: Mon, May 21 2007, 04:10:57pm

Cool_Guy 1

I totally agree with you. You have highlighted some very important points here. In particular, about generating income through cash crops. That is the only way the bulk of Enga can move forward and be independent financially/economically. Education is only for the privileged few. To touch Enga, you need to touch them at the core of the problems and issues they face. The problem with Enga is that the people are not fully engaged in a income generating activity. Given the right technical assistance, Engan will used their land to produce the cash crops that you have mentioned. What the government must do is to provide markets for them. In looking for markets, we could start with Porgera Gold mine. The governor should liase with PJV so that enga can provide all the vegetables such a carrots, cabbages, broccoli etc. These activities can be faciliated through existing organisational vehicles such as Enga vegetable marketing Depo. Just notify the people that on a particular daty/week, trucks will be coming around at particular location to buy in cash these products.It will be just like selling coffee on the road side, except, this time, the people will know what time buyers will come and exact prices they will be paid per kilograms. Iam sure if such a thing was in place, Enga will respond. If this become successful, then markets in other provinces/cities including even overseas markets must be identified. This is the only way enga will change and move forward in a practical way. Otherwise, the few educated will live a comfortabe life while the rest of enga will be bounded by a viscous cycle of poverty.And when election time comes,everyone will be looking to intending candidates as their Messia to deliver them from the bondages of poverty.

I do not want to be too critical here about the so called Engan action governor, but in my opinion, he was rightly placed to do much yet achieved little, if anything. Ten years has been a total waste. He has not impacted Enga in any meaningful socio-economic and infrastructural development purposes. What can you expect a man to do anyway, when half his time, he is building his personal empire and the other half he is looking for ladies. How much time does this leave him to think about Enga? And for his aspirations to be the Prime Minister, I live that to the voters on the ground. if they feel he has been an inspirational and hardworking leader who has genuinely concerned about their cosial and economic welfare, then how they vote is their prerogative. Iam sure rural Enga, though not well educated, are highly intelligent people who can think logically, critically and make the right decisions.

Engan at heart

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[> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Ipatas Fan
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Date Posted: Tue, May 22 2007, 10:59:30am

Point 1:
Let's put things into perspective.
Can anyone quantify exactly how much (K millions) the Porgera Mine pays to the Enga Provincial Government? What percentage of that is for the landowners? From record, how much has the MRDC (state's equity manager) paid to Enga Provincial Government over the last ten years?
The answers to these questions will form the basis on which arguments/debates or conclusions can be deduced.
At the moment it is not feasible to draw any firm conclusions. Just mentioning Millions is not enough. How much in terms of millions does matter here.


Point 2.
The subsidized education policy enables many Engan children’s to be taught how to fish. Where they fish after their studies should not matter. The Green house is not the only fishing ground. The ocean is much deeper out there.


Point 3:
Human beings are tied down by "talk" and "advice".
Only pigs are tied down by ropes. There's a certain extend to which a government can exercise its authority by providing the necessary means for a peaceful co-existence.
The people MUST USE THEIR COCONUTS. They know tribal fights is bad. The government cannot spoon-fed and treat grown up pigs. It comes down to basic personal responsibility.



Point 4:
The Provincial Government did and does its part on:

1. Reopening of the Wapenamanda Airstrip, which was shut down many years ago.

2. The setting up of the Wapenamanda Coffee factory for coffee growers.

3. The Wabag National Court Office and facilities

4. The Green House - only 2nd when compared with the National Parliament.

5. Support for rugby league and Soccer Academy.

6. New Digital Telephone Exchange in Wabag

7.The Pyrethrum Project

8. Support to Police Force in the Province.

9. The support and establishment of the CIS at Mukurumanda

10. The recent Enga Cultural Centre planned - K800,000.00 co funding assistance for work done by the University of Utah Doctor.

11. Funding of Wabag Health Centre, which enable it to be recognised at a Provincial Hospital by the National Government (Dept of Health).


12. Enga University Centre - For adults and others that want to get a second chance in education.

13. The new BSP Complex in Wabag - to be leased to BSP Bank.

14. ................................. you add them


One can see that the millions of kina has not be dumped into single oft -criticized "education subsidy basket"

Guys, let's be objective, relative in our assessment with peer governments and show respect where it's due.


Compare these with Southern Highlands, New Ireland Province, Western Province. You'll be sorry to realise what you said was too harsh.
His personal life is his own business. It's cheap to bank on that.

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[> Subject: Re: Enga 1996 -2006 EMTV Presentation


Author:
Observer
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Date Posted: Sat, Jun 30 2007, 03:55:48pm

Peter Ipatas concluded the campaigns tactically and well with a replay of this program on EMTV with additional inputs from his many campaign tours. That was a brilliant strategy.

This guy is couple of notches ahead of everyone else

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Author:
Mohawk
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Date Posted: Sat, Jun 30 2007, 09:54:46pm

Observer,

Stuuupid!! Don't base your election prediction based on a lousy TV program with a few editions here and there. Regardless of the aired program, over 70% of Engans are without TV sets back home and it wouldn't have much of an effect in light of the observed minimal changes Ipatas has done on the ground. What has he done in terms of social development, and employment from agriculture entreprenuership.

Paul P. Torato rrrrises,, can ya feeell it???!!!

PS: By my count, Ipatas falls to 3rd or 4th place..

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