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Subject: Politics is tearing our province apart!


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KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Fri, Feb 16 2007, 11:04:55am

Why do two Engan politicians have to obstruct the oppointment of a highly intellectual Engan in the likes of Isaac Lupari from being appointed as Chief Secretary?! Jealousy and politics has got to stop before development and change can come through our "change agents" and Mr. Lupari of Wabag is most certainly one of them having a distinguishable, long and respectable career in the public service!


The National, February 16th, 2007

Lupari appointment blocked

A SUBMISSION to appoint the Ambassador to the European Union Isaac Lupari as Chief Secretary was withdrawn at the last minute before it could go to cabinet on Wednesday.
Government sources told The National yesterday Prime Minister Sir Michael Somare was approached by two Engan politicians who urged Sir Michael to withdraw the submission because of gpolitical differencesh.
Mr Lupari, former Secretary to Finance and Treasury and Transport Department, was expected to be appointed Chief Secretary to replace Joshua Kalinoe, who is to take up a new appointment as head of a new entity to look after the Statefs interest in downstream processing of its gas resources in the country.
Mr Lupari is seen as tough and decisive and has the qualities to stabilise and control the public service as the nation goes into the crucial election period in two months time.
Mr Lupari, who is in the country, is understood to have been given another term as ambassador as his previous term had expired, although he was disappointed with the political moves.
He could not be reached for comments.
The Government sources said cabinet members were surprised when the Prime Minister withdrew the submission.
The sources also said a move by Public Service Minister Sinai Brown to remove Defence Secretary Fred Punangi was also opposed by other ministers.
It is understood that Mr Brown had attempted to use Mr Punangifs previous suspension to get him out and have him replaced with Steven Raphael, but ministers, including Deputy Prime Minister Don Polye and others, opposed it because the allegations against Mr Punangi had been dealt with and thrown out by the court and the Public Services Commission, which directed his reinstatement two years ago.
Mr Brown had previously made appointments in Cabinet reversed by the court due to failure to follow proper processes.
He had in the past tried unsuccessfully to remove Valentine Kambori from National Planning and Monitoring, Margaret Elias from Personnel Management, David Sode from Internal Revenue Commission, and Gabriel Yer from Finance.

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[> Subject: Re: Politics is tearing our province apart!


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No to MAD rush
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Date Posted: Fri, Feb 16 2007, 01:37:47pm

There maybe many reasons on this. However, I for one believe that during such a "mad rush hour" like this, career professionals need to be objecttive and remain neutral from the mad rush appointments. In this way, their prospects for a firm and long time employment is guranteed.

One does not have to put his/her career on the line just to faciliate one party's election win and another's demise.

Isaac Lupari doesn't have to rush to jump into the big one at a time like this. There needs to be some calculated decisons whose impacts will be felt for the long term.

He is an experienced high profile public servant. There will be many opportunities available (with the public service or private sector)when the dust settles.

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[> Subject: Re: Politics is tearing our province apart!


Author:
spy
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Date Posted: Fri, Feb 16 2007, 01:56:01pm

The two MPs are: Don Polye and Sam Abal as I heard from inside.

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[> Subject: Re: Politics is tearing our province apart!


Author:
Wane Mende
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Date Posted: Fri, Feb 16 2007, 05:00:32pm

I love being an Engan but i absolutely hate this Engan Politics!

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[> Subject: Re: Politics is tearing our province apart!


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Engan Lenge
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Date Posted: Fri, Feb 16 2007, 07:31:04pm

Kaimis and Pimalenges,

I code Sir Winston Churchill who once said; "Some regard private enterprise as if it were a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look upon it as a cow that they can milk. Only a handful see it for what it really is--the strong horse that pulls the whole cart".

Issac Lupari is such a real Entrepreneur, with his reputation in no sense in management, the Government thinks they can easily milk his leadership at this rush hour. Yes, I agree with, 'N0 to MAD Rush' above that Mr. Lupari is not a man to be used at rush hour for the election favour. At desperate minutes, people make desperate but important and true decisions. When I look back to his life in public service on some of his appointments, Mr. Lupari has been appointed by succesive governments desperately to put things right for most Govt. Depts (DPM, DOW/DOT, etc) that were mismanaged.

Yes he is a predatory tiger to be shot by fellow mad Engans in politics. But, he likes Engans to be consistent and not mad pappets. The other 2 Engan politicians interceded the appointment, because one of them was sacked by Mr. Lupari when he was Secretary for a govt. deptment.

A day is nigh when Mr. Lupari will still be the strong horse to pull the whole cart., He will still be the Secretary of Secretaries.

Engan politics is dirty but that is life, yes we cannot say 'NO' for some else.

Engan Lenge

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Engan Lenge
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Date Posted: Fri, Feb 16 2007, 07:38:38pm

Correction,

Not interceded, It should be 'INTERCEPTED' the appointment.

Thanks.
Enga Lenge

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[> Subject: Re: Politics is tearing our province apart!


Author:
Cool_Guy1
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Date Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2007, 08:12:15am

Pure jealousy and big-man and pride mentality is a great killer in our province. Take a look around and you will see that most Engans dont want someone else to be successful in life, because it kind of challenegs their own inadequacy.

Above all, few Engans have a tendency that, seeing someone excel in education, business and job makes the other person feel uneasy and jealous driven all over. It is such attitude that needs to change in our province if we have to move forward and build a civilised society in Enga.

When there is a tribal fight, opportunist aim to burn down the business or school or kill the most educated person in the enemy tribe, because they feel threathened. This mentality is displayed in public offices also. Isaac Lupari is a qualified Engan who is capable of handling the task, but our of jealousy and the engraved behavioural problem of a few Engans, he was let down.

If Enga has to develop and move forward, every Engans need to celebrate the achievements (be it in education, business, job, etc) of Engans. Engans need to congratulate and Engan son or daughter who is encelling, and that is the key to a civilised society where respect becomes the norm of the day.

If however, we allow jealousy and back-stabbing become the norm of the day, we surely will find our dear province moving backwards rather than forward looking. No wonder, we have few tin-roofed residential homes and business in our own villages because of such attitudes that tries to bring down those who are excelling.

People dont realise the, when someone excells, the spin off benefits are great for the rest of the society as a whole. It is greed and selfishness that makes a society sickening.

If our MPs are playing politics with appointments as such, i believe one of this days they will stand to face the same judgement. It is not far off.. just a month away for them to see themselves in the same mirror.

Cool_Guy1

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[> Subject: Re: Politics is tearing our province apart!


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61
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Date Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2007, 04:01:37pm

I too was saddened by the NEWS that Isaac Lupari was not considered by Somare due to plain jealousy from two of our selfish leaders.

However, I think it is a blessing in disguise. As pointed out above, it is indeed "mad rush hour" in PNG politics and capable Engans like Mr. Lupari should not grab this false opportunity without foresight. We all know it is election time and the Somare government is doing this insane political maneouvres to leverage its prospects of forming the next government. Obviously it needs highlands Mps support to regain control after elections.

However, if the next government is made up of people other than the current government Isaac Lupari's chances of remaining in that post will be slim as we all know new governments in PNG always come with their own people. Hence it is good that Mr. Lupari is not considered now for that big post.

61

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[> Subject: Re: Politics is tearing our province apart!


Author:
Sympathiser
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Date Posted: Fri, Mar 16 2007, 09:46:17am

You can add Fred Punagi on the list. He lost his PNGDF secretary to Stephen, a Tolae block last nite. Sam Abal must have gone to sleep while Sinai Brown gave him a wakeup call.

A lot of promises and assurances by Mr Abal will go well with Fred, I guess?

Good luck to Enga Politics, embanya tange ongo tange, leave politics to the politician???

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[> Subject: Re: Politics is tearing our province apart!


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Sympathiser
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Date Posted: Fri, Mar 16 2007, 10:00:38am

Also heard rumours that there were four agendas affecting 4 Engan sons, Lupari for the Chief Sec role, Krammer for the IRC, Punagi for the Defense and Talyaga for the EPG. Can one confirm? Keep your eyes open for the other two, Punage lost, Lupari is on standby tasol for the most senior job.

Good luck to Enga Politics, embanya tange ongo tange, leave politics to the politicians?

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[> Subject: Re: Politics is tearing our province apart!


Author:
D
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Date Posted: Fri, Apr 13 2007, 11:39:37am

Isaac Lupari has finally been appointed to the Chief Secretary's position.

Time will tell whether his acceptance of the position was the best thing to do.

Anyhow, congratualtions are in order for appointment

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[> Subject: Re: Politics is tearing our province apart!


Author:
who is the hijacker?
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Date Posted: Sat, Apr 21 2007, 01:13:43pm

Another twist on Monday 16 April, refer extract from PC, who planned a these, traepela shame yah and who is responsble?

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Top post hijacked
THERE are fears senior government ministers and officials falsified a Cabinet decision regarding the appointment of a Papua New Guinea Defence Force Secretary.
Police are aware and are investigating.
Cabinet, at its March 13-16 meeting in Wewak, decided to appoint acting National Security Advisory Council chairman Stephen Raphael to the (PNGDF Secretary) position.
The man who was reportedly removed by Cabinet from the position, Fred Punangi, was still sitting at his Murray Barracks Secretarys chair when the paper contacted the office.
There are allegations the process was hijacked by senior government ministers and other officials after Cabinet had agreed Mr Raphael should takeover the position.
Reports reaching the Post-Courier yesterday from government circles, stated after the NEC meeting in Wewak last month, the final documents reaching the legislatures office had Mr Punangis name instead of Mr Raphael.
Police said yesterday they were aware of the matter and were investigating allegations Prime Minister Sir Michael Somares signature was forged on documents that showed Punangi was still the legitimate secretary.
Police could not elaborate on the issue because they claimed the issue was sensitive as it involved members of Government.
The Prime Ministers office, when contacted yesterday, said it was aware but could not comment because this was a non-issue.
The PNGDF hierarchy confirmed they were aware Mr Raphael was to take over the position as their secretary and confirmed Mr Punangi was still in office.
Officers said there was confusion surrounding the position despite receiving confirmation from the PMs office Mr Raphael was to take over as their secretary.
The Public Service ministers and department office contacted before close of business yesterday also confirmed there was confusion over the position saying the issue was seriously a matter of concern.
The office advised a public statement would be released later this week.
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