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Subject: Re: X to be at least 22 books?


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Marina
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Date Posted: 14:44:43 07/13/03 Sun
In reply to: Satsuki 's message, "Re: X to be at least 22 books?" on 04:22:46 07/13/03 Sun

In my opinion, I don't think that there will be 21 vols. of X. They seem to be in a real hurry to finish it, and what have they got left to do if the final battle is here? Of course, the ending is up for grabs right now, but I think they just want to be done with it.

Thanks for reminding me about the immaturity aspect of the Sun card. I had forgotten that. However, it isn't the same immaturity of the Fool card (which is really what Keiichi suggests to me), as it is near the end of the deck (major arcana, that is) and indicates that the Fool is near the end of their journey (the major arcana tell the story of the Fool and the lessons he learns through his journey through the cards). It also represents a triumph over the lower aspects of human nature. Eh. That seems Keiichi-ish, I guess.

As for Fuuma, for normal Fuuma, I meant more that the liberation aspect of the card, the triumph, represented him and his return. Everyone on this board seems pretty dead set on his return, and I saw this aspect in that.

Thanks for reminding me about the Hermit. I thought I'd forgotten one.

I don't find the bullets on the Star card appropriate at all. As I said, tarot cards are all about visual interpretation, and such a jarring thing on a card that is supposed to be hope for peace or the future or whatever wouldn't really aid in a reading or fit symbolically. Of course, some people might like bullets in their interpretation. I just don't see it that way.

About the Devil card. I totally understand that it isn't an evil card. I'm the sort of person that goes around trumpeting that the Death card is NOT a death card, but rather one symbolising an end to fascilitate a new beginning (and I know Lucifer is a very interesting character. I once wrote him in a short story as one of my best anti-heroes). And you present an excellent point about Yuuto. However, the card does represent a few negative aspects that I wouldn't really associate with Yuuto, such as discontent, depression, and wrong use of force. I find it interesting that CLAMP changed some of the symbolism of the card. The cards, to me, seem to closely follow the Rider-Waite deck (of which I am most familiar), and in the Devil card of that deck, the devil is seated on a half-cube, which I have learned represents half-knowledge, the divorce of understanding from sensation (meaning the loss of understanding). This would seem to suggest the opposite of how you explained that the card would match Yuuto. However, CLAMP drew him sitting in a chair, so I guess that visual symbolism doesn't precisely work anymore.

I've never heard the Moon card interpreted as a loss of identity. That's different.

As for the Tower card, I think it's highly appropriate. The Tower card represents a swift, sudden and violent change. The sort of change that is disruptive but brings enlightenment. I'd say that both the Magami sisters brought about swift, violent change. Tohru did so by dying and directing Kamui on the start of his journey, of which he came to be enlightened along the way, and Tokiko by birthing the shinken (I'd call her death pretty damn violent). It also represents a downfall due to arrogance. Tokyo Tower seems chosen to suffer this fate on the card due to it being one of the final MANMADE monuments (suggesting that mankind may suffer at the hands of the DoE for their abuse of the planet) to be standing in Tokyo at its fall. Makes sense to me.

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