| Subject: Re: The Mother of All Proposals |
Author:
Tim
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Date Posted: 15:24:18 05/19/03 Mon
In reply to:
Ali
's message, "Re: The Mother of All Proposals" on 15:10:13 05/19/03 Mon
At the moment, any amalgamation requires standing committee approval, and that should remain. Furthermore, it is not possible for couples that haven't been selected to amalgamate - whole universities must amalgamate or not. It seem to me that these rules take out all the problems talked about. I am not in favour of any move that extends these sorts of decisions to the executive - one key strength of the IVDA constitution is the separation of the executive and the judiciary (roughly the hosts and the standing committee) and that should be preserved at all costs.
My view is that this system is fine. Those couples that haven't been selected for the team match - tough luck. Half the excitement of the team match is knowing that you have been selected ahead of the odds and sods (at least at the big universities). It is an exclusive thing, a prestige thing. Allowing odds and sods to enter would undermine that.
I am perfectly happy, for example, to have York, Hull, Carlisle, Middlesbrough and Newcastle (three new clubs and two small existing ones) dance together, but this amalgamation should be between the whole teams all year, not just a few couples at one competition. That will preserve the cohesive collective spirit which is the essence of the university circuit.
>>I agree in general that odds n sods teams should only
>>be comprised of couples from universities who can't
>>enter a full team of their own. That's the whole point
>>of it.
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>Fair enough, I agree in general with your comemnts -
>I'll take the beginner clause out.
>
>Tim: two-uni combinations etc. will still suffer from
>the same problems - what if a 10 couple uni
>amalgamates with a 4-couple uni? It's also open to
>abuse by two small unis with one or two good couples,
>or even by, say, Bristol and Sheffield joining forces
>and disregarding the leftover couples.
>
>I think the idea behind the odds team is to pick up
>the people for whom team cohesion is already
>irrelevant - then give them some semblance of cohesion
>and a chance of actually getting somewhere. A 1-couple
>novice team won't get anywhere, and will be pointless
>to enter, but a 4-couple novice odds team will be a
>lot more fun, without compromising anything else.
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