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Subject: Re: the lies of christians


Author:
Paul
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Date Posted: 01:05:10 09/17/05 Sat
In reply to: IchthusEatsDirt 's message, "Re: the lies of christians" on 18:17:48 09/16/05 Fri

>>Evolution is science, Creationism is mythology. Hovind
>>uses strawman arguments, they're logical fallacies, if
>>you're ignorant of science they may make sense.
>I'm sorry you believe that, fellow. Have you ever read
>the Case for books by Lee Strobel? It gave me
>some insight on where evolution stands. Investigate
>the evidence of your own faith, Paul. Don't bash Tom's
>and mine until then.

You're confusing faith and Science, by asserting faith is on the same level you're only putting it into the firing line.

>>You've been listening to hovind too much, this isn't
>>evolution.
>I've never listened to Hovind, and you do have a point
>there. I actually read the textbooks in school before
>we work in them. Tom's wrong about evolution. BUT:
>I happen to be a former Atheist led to Christ by two
>things: deeper investigation of evolution, and an
>experience like you wouldn't believe just last year.
>Eat your own words.

And I've seen preachers become atheists.

>>Again, not evolution.
>No, but you forget that many Christians have a
>generalized and incorrect view of evolution.

If they're going to attack it, they better start learning what it is. The arguments aren't going to hold any water otherwise.

>I,
>however, learned great things by reading Strobel's
>Case for A Creator. I gained greater insight on
>what the dev'l evolution is about (I missed those two
>weeks because of a broken tailbone), and saw how false
>it is.

I rather see what biologists have to say, and what their research shows.

>>You may wish to look up what evolution is before
>>critizing this strawman version you creationists dream
>>up.
>He should, but don't generalize the theory we develop.
>I developed the correct version, and I have come to
>find how false it truly is.

I've come to see how it explains the evidence.

>>So you rather cling to a god of gaps? It answers all
>>your questions as long as you don't think too much
>>about it.
>No. That's where you're wrong. Your view toward
>Christianity is warped, distorted. There are no gaps,
>it's just hard to see the thin line of balance hidden
>within the truths of this world!

Amazing how far christianity needs to lie for these "truths".

>>And ignorance at the same time.
>You keep thinking that. I'll see you in your fate, but
>I won't join you.

Oh, we'll be joining eachother, just as every other living thing on earth will. Your afterlife fantasy is up to you though.

>>Sorry, false dilemma. Fallacies aren't that
>convincing.
>Perhaps. But I have walked both roads. Satan truly is
>a tricksy one.

I don't know, I've only met Zeus. I'll have to take your word for it.

>>You might want to try a scientific site.
>Give the name of one, Paul.

A site that actually follows the scientific method, without the strawmans. say http://talkorigins.org/

>Your name is Biblical, you know!

And?

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