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Subject: Re: there's a firefly in my brain

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pjk

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Date Posted: 01/12/06 3:12:12pm
In reply to: Geo 's message, "Re: there's a firefly in my brain" on 01/12/06 12:53:01pm

gdz - great post

>I personally have installed firefox but abandoned it
>due to incompatibilities with certain websites/plugins
>that I must have used regular enough that led me back
>to iexplorer. There are guys here at work who love it,
>especially the tabbed browser feature.

Explorer used to crash somewhat frequently and for some reason I haven't had that problem much with firefox.

>>tjm:
>>anyway it's an interesting debate. i personally don't
>>quite understand the logic behind the "free" concept
>>but perhaps i am Utopian in believing in the ideal
>>that if you create a product like art, education or
>>software that you will be compensated by its users and
>>thus you are able to sustain your own growth and
>>product development and the like.

It's perhaps half comparable to what used to be the copyright laws - the idea that the inventor makes money for a certain period of time, but then the work is released to the public for the benefit of society... As we all know, much research and ingenuity takes place a public universities, funded by the public and the students, that serves a higher purpose - to benefit society and the world at large. I don't know the history, but it appears as though more and more people and companies take advantage of the tax payer subsidized work and then turn aroudn and "privatize" the work and charge the public again. The "internets" is an example of a system largely created by the government and universities getting government support that some of the capitalist utopians would like to privatize to greater and greater degrees.

>Yeah, it's funny. I think part of it came about
>because companies were all making versions of OS's
>that were incompatible, and Microsquash would
>purposefully inhibit other software from being
>compatible, etc. In some ways it has evolved into a
>"don't reinvent the wheel" mentality so businesses can
>move forward and develop new products to make money
>using these tools.

Yeah - We want to keep the goodwill to a minimum otherwise who are "we" going to make money from "our" product. I read somewhere that MS was trying to co-opt some important Linux people and transform it into "winux." It's like water as a public utility - why make it insanely affordable to everyone when you could privatize it and someone could make gazillions?

>>tjm:
>>i'm just unclear what you mean by feeling dirty. i
>>assume tho that by inference i should feel dirty too
>>b/c i use the dark empire's wares?

Bill & Melinda do/did some good things with their billions but the predatory and anti-entrepreneurial behavior of the Co. is just a bit too over the top capitalist for yours truly. Remember the big anti-trust cases against MS by netscape and a host of others just few years ago?

>You certainly have a far greater risk of becoming
>infected if you use iexplorer.

Not a snark question, but how many patches exist for microsquash users? Why is the platform so vulnerable?

>it usually goes over my head.

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Subject	Author	Date
Re: there's a firefly in my brain	pa	01/12/06 9:19:07pm

Re: there's a firefly in my brain	Geo	01/13/06 10:08:42am
Re: there's a firefly in my brain -- pjk, 01/13/06 12:24:23pm Re: there's a firefly in my brain -- Geo, 01/13/06 1:27:53pm Re: there's a firefly in my brain -- krz, 01/13/06 5:55:34pm Re: there's a firefly in my brain -- Geo, 01/13/06 3:13:22pm Re: my fly brain -- pjk, 01/13/06 4:11:12pm public spending and retirement systems -- krz, 01/13/06 6:20:28pm Re: my fly brain -- Geo, 01/14/06 1:09:21pm genentechechechechechech -- pa, 01/13/06 9:03:15pm Re: genentechechechechechech -- krz, 01/13/06 9:39:26pm intellectual ownership -- pa, 01/14/06 8:46:36am Re: intellectual ownership -- krz, 01/14/06 8:51:34am