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Date Posted: 11:58:19 09/05/03 Fri
Author: Lissa
Subject: I think that humans have a habit of taking very simple ideas and making them very complicated. Like the idea of karma for example. I believe it is simply that all actions have consequences. It is well known that humans have Free Will to create as they see fit. Karma is the balance for that, so that we have some kind of shape to the game of choice. Consequences are different from rewards and punishments, though. A consequence is simply a result, yet the others involve a judgement. Since we have permission to use our free will, then it should follow that we would not be punished for it, and so not rewarded either. It just IS.
In reply to: sw va Linda 's message, "More questions! :)" on 15:49:10 09/04/03 Thu


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[> [> One description I read in a Near Death Experience book about judgement day was that a kindly Being would gently ask, "So, how do you think you did?" after you instantaneously re-experienced your whole life along with feeling what affect it had on those you had contact with. The judgement comes from ourselves! And also, for the reincarnation end of our experience, we cannot be forced to do this or that, but what I think is that what looks like a good idea in the Love and safety of pre-life-on-earth heaven, may look a heck of a lot harder once here in the world of dense form. But souls keep coming back because it is such a good opportunity for learning, especially if you like learning on the fast track. Or so I have heard. *G* -- Lissa, 11:59:46 09/05/03 Fri


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[> [> [> It's our own Judgements that put us in Heaven or Hell, a feeling of peace or anxiety. What we "experience" is determined by how we choose to see it, and our perspective of things is what determines what we see. It's like wearing different kinds of eyeglasses, or sitting in a theater and having different views of the same play. Our perspective determines our judgement, and our judgement makes us feel either happy or sad, either like we are in heaven or in hell. The middle way that is talked about in all religions is the way of no judgement.... me, you, each person having no judgement. Am I making any sense? Or have I just rambled on again? hahaha -- Lissa, 12:14:04 09/05/03 Fri


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