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Date Posted: 02:21:35 05/01/03 Thu
Author: "Vince From Villanova" (Dimple that chad!)
Subject: Yes, your vote DOES matter.

Here in my current home of Palm Bay, Florida, we had a special election for a vacant City Council seat on Tuesday. Sleep-deprived-me woke up late for work on Tuesday and almost decided not to vote. But then I figured, hey, I'm late anyway, so 10 more minutes won't matter, and I cast my vote.

I'm glad I did: my guy won by 2 votes. If 2 other people had decided voting wasn't worth the effort, some total lightweight would've won instead.

The lesson? If you're a conservative, think about how much good you can do as one person by voting. And if you're a liberal, think about how much good you can do by staying home.

Okay, okay, just kidding. ;] But seriously folks, vote!

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[> The last time "my guy" won, I discovered that he was just as much a pork-barrelling, civil-liberties-hating demagogue as the Other Guy (That's the rule, not the exception). That's why I sat out the last election - and for the first time, felt good about my actions on Election Day. Moral: Don't vote: it just encourages them! -- Jim Walsh, 09:51:26 05/01/03 Thu


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[> [> Heh... sounds like the guy I voted for the LAST time I was late for work. Or wait, no, last election was right after I got fired from my minimum-wage McDonald's job for tardiness, so I was unemployed then. (Hey, the way this thread is already going, you know someone was gonna toss a McD's crack at me eventually. Figured I'd just get it out of the way myself. :P ) -- "Vince From Villanova" (I love to see you smile!), 02:39:19 05/02/03 Fri


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[> How typical is this guy -"Hey, I'm already late for work so I'll be 10 minutes more late for work , so what?" What a great attitude! "Oh, I wont' bother to call my boss and tell him I'm sorry that I'll be late for work and that I'll be there soon, I'll take 10 minutes more." I'm sorry your candidate won. If you voted for him, how good can he be? Tomorrow on your way to work, do you plan to catch a movie? -- Harry Kalish, 13:56:54 05/01/03 Thu


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[> [> Geesh Harry, we don't hear from you for 3 years and youk come back to pick on Vince? Just ignore the first paragraph and his post does make a good point. BTW, we tried the movie thing once, the popcorn stuck in our teeth gave us away. -- Surf, 16:44:05 05/01/03 Thu


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[> [> [> No, it's okay Surf. Buried under the smarmy sarcasm, he does have a valid point. Why he's so concerned with the work attendance of a washed-up radio guy living 7 states away is a mystery, but hey, no skin off my nose. It ain't him who'll get fired, and in this case, it wasn't me either. ;) -- "Vince From Villanova", 02:11:34 05/02/03 Fri


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[> [> [> Lateness, voting, and movies -- Harry Kalish, 13:30:31 05/02/03 Fri

No no no - I'm not picking on Vince. I don't even know the gentleman. However, it's much too common for people to use any reason to be late - or to not even show up - for the responsibilities of work. Also, polls are open from early morning to evening. People can vote and still put in a full day or work.

Otherwise, sure his post makes a good point. But do you know anybody who's AGAINST voting (besides Saddam)? Anyway, a get-out-and-vote comment from Florida is kind of ironic. How many people's votes in that state DIDN'T count in the last Presidential election?

It is, though, nice to be back. For the last three years, I've been in Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction. And, even though I haven't found them yet, I'm still looking and I will find them - even if I have to put them there myself. Oh well, I gotta go now. It's time to go to work...but, then again, Lizzie Maguire is playing at the multiplex.


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[> [> [> [> Just so ya know, I work 2 jobs, 1 from 5 to 10pm, and the other from 11pm to 7am. So, I sleep days. I had meant to wake up early that day to have time to vote, but slept right through the early alarm. And since the first job is a 45-minute drive from home, it was either skip voting and be late anyway, or vote and be a little later. Maybe it ain't the best work ethic, but I made my choice. Welcome back, Harry! -- "Vince From Villanova" (Now... work on time, or X-Men 2? Hmm...), 00:40:20 05/03/03 Sat


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[> [> Depends on the movie, Harry. If it's "The Matrix Reloaded," hell yeah! If it's "Bulletproof Monk," I'll opt for a round of mini-golf instead. -- "Vince From Villanova" (Don't worry, Harry, my job is safe.), 02:00:22 05/02/03 Fri


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[> Wrong votes -- talk radio bug, 14:21:28 05/01/03 Thu

I hate when I vote for a candidate who I perceive to be the better of two major party nominees, who wins the election, and then turns out to be a major disappointment. Three come to mind.

My very first vote and very worst vote was for LBJ. I was nieve at the time, to say the very least. The anti-Goldwater forces won me over easily and they turned out to be despicably wrong.

I voted for Wilson W. Goode. Once.

I voted for Clinton, the first time, thinking that Bush was not well and not up to the job. Wrong. We got a scoundral with an even worse spouse.

I wish I had a crystal ball. I get annoyed when I badly cast my vote for a crumb. Voting for Democrats does not seem to suit me.


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[> [> Yeah after that third vote I'd be pretty turned off as well but it's not voting Democrat that is the problem (although they DO seem to have a scarcity of quality people) it's the person the Democratic party has been putting forth that is the problem -- Surf - king of disjointed rambling comments, 16:41:46 05/01/03 Thu


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[> [> [> Poor Dem candidates -- talk radio bug, 22:38:47 05/01/03 Thu

They sure do put up some poor candidates. Dukakis was one at the national level. Here in Philly its John Street, but Street has always won, his intellectual impoverishment being no handicap. Hopefully that will change but certainly not by the Democratic Primary.


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[> [> I am proud to say that I have not once voted for the winning candidate, yet I still vote. No one can blame me, but then who knows what a different mess we'd have if "my guys" all got elected. (Voting Libertarian most of the time.) When people tell me that's wasting my vote I ask them, "Do you mean you didn't waste yours?" -- SurveyGuy, 22:16:57 05/02/03 Fri


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[> [> [> Yes, you're wasting your vote. Al Gore could very well have been president if not for my hero, Ralph "Kill the Corvair" Nadir - I mean Nader. And if you really don't think that would have made a difference, then you should just stop voting all together - call it a voluntary IQ disability - you might even get a tax break... -- Scott Tilde, 21:45:35 05/04/03 Sun


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[> [> [> [> As a fellow Libertarian, let me quote Survey Guy: "Do you mean you didn't waste yours?" -- "Vince From Villanova" (Just curious...), 05:58:49 05/05/03 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> since when is a losing vote a wasted vote? -- talk radio bug, 15:19:30 05/05/03 Mon

and, why is it wasted if your winning candidate turns out to be a crumb? The only wasted vote is the vote not cast.


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[> [> [> [> Gore? You're kidding, right? Those who voted for Nadar and Browne were telling the D's and R's that they have given them nothing to vote for. If Nadar dropped out, my guess is that they are too smart to have voted for Gore, but we'll never know. Heck, even TN voters who knew him well voted against him. -- SurveyGuy (the only vote wasted is one for an idiot or bastard), 22:06:31 05/06/03 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> "[Naderites] are too smart to have voted for Gore." Why risk it? 300 Florida Naderites could have swung the pendulum. And being that they're a pretty confused lot to begin with (check out Nader's platform sometime), they could easily have switched. You're not throwing away your vote on a sure loser only if you truly don't care which major wins. If you really think Gore and Bush are the same, you're just plain insane. You besmirch the Libertarians with that logic. -- Scott "Results Matter" Tilde, 13:13:59 05/07/03 Wed


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[> [> [> [> [> [> I truly didn't care. I figure that I lose either way, so I vote for what I want, not for what I don't want. Now THAT would be a waste of a vote. If others would do the same, we might actually get what we want. I will say that if Hillary Clinton runs in 2004, I will vote for Bush. Some consequences are too terrible to contemplate. -- SurveyGuy, 16:38:17 05/07/03 Wed


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Whew. Thank You! We all have our limits. -- Scott Tilde, 23:42:11 05/12/03 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> [> This "the R's are better then the D's" argument always bores me. It's like someone running around telling me how much better off I'll be if I get burglarized instead of being robbed. Sure, its less risky to be burglarized, but I loose in both cases! Save your "Bush is better" for your next meeting of the RNC while you all sit around praising the Patriot Act. -- richiep, 00:24:20 05/08/03 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Bitter Bitter Bitter. So logic bores you: then just be honest with yourself and vote D next time. You'll "feel" better. It's really all the same. Sweden's just like the U.S. -- Scott "Explaining The Obvious Bores Me Too" Tilde, 23:50:21 05/12/03 Mon


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